To think Marie Kondo's clothes storage method is bat shit??

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Not actually sure why but I'm watching Tidying Up on Netflix.

I was a bit when she started talking about holding each item & it sparking joy then saying thank you to the items they were throwing away but I've preserved to them reorganising the clothes they're keeping.

A T-shirt is folded down to the size of a purse then they're all stored upwards facing in a drawer. I do actually think it would be good to be able to see them all at a glance but surely everything would come out like a dish cloth it's got that many fold lines in.

Then the jeans.... 6 folds!!

DH is a keener Kondo-er than me!

The sparking joy thing is awkward. My colleague was talking about this recently and all i could think while she was talking was "so this outfit you're wearing now sparks joy for you?" Obviously i didn't say that.

Yes a lot of people hoard clothes/items and need a clear out (i was one you until 5 years ago). But it's also a very odd obsession this whole Marie kondo thing.

"My colleague was talking about this recently and all i could think while she was talking was "so this outfit you're wearing now sparks joy for you?" Obviously i didn't say that. "

Ha ha. She might just say those clothes were 'useful', which is apparently also OK.

I've read that charity shops are benefiting a lot from Kondo's popularity. There getting more and better stuff that is delivered neatly folded.

My DH Kondoed his own drawers, I think when I mentioned throwing out stuff, I wasn’t allowed anywhere near . It’s much easier for me now as I just put his stuff on the bed for him to fold appropriately and put away

I’m not sure about the whole ‘joy’ thing but I get the idea of thinking about the items rather than just shoving them into the drawers. And ‘posting’ them into the drawers is genius - without DS I’d have a clear out and find clothes sink to the bottom that hadn’t been worn

The people that put clothes straight into the wardrobes, how many wardrobes do you have?

We have (for 2 of us) a large double built in wardrobe in the bedroom, a long hanging rail in the spare bedroom and ... picture rails.

All DP's shirts* hang on the spare bedroom pitcture rail. They overlap by about 50%, so he can see which shirt is which. Work shirts are along one wall, casual shirts along the other. The casual shirts are approximately ordered in order of poshness, with the cheap ones nearest the door and the designer ones (of which there are few) nearest the airing cupboard.

*Just realised that's not quite true. He has 2 proper evening shirts, they're in the wardrobe, in the suit carrier with his DJ and bow tie, just in case we ever get invited to a black tie do.

For people who are querying 'spark joy' or thanking things, this is an interesting read: www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi4l4XV9bDgAhV55eAKHdlKDBkQzPwBegQIARAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.papermag.com%2Fmarie-kondo-racist-criticism-2626402092.html&psig=AOvVaw1wdR4iadXTYsx8IL_vq5Zn&ust=1549879624649560

It does work well for plus size clothes

Well it’s not realistic for most of us to have two bedrooms just to hang out clothes in. Drawers take less room and hold more.
If you don’t think your dc will fold (my 6 year old does, older one no interest) then you could fold them and still leave them in the laundry basket for them to put away.
Our views are not just chucking and folding though. I found the idea of gathering together everything of a category before discarding really helpful. Don’t do it room by room.

I find it how in that phtoo it goes from white to light pink.
My underwear is a mix of black, white and nude and my tops are virtually in all colours bar yellow and pale pink.

I'm not keen on discarding good clothes either.
Always worth keeping fashionable items because in 30 years they'll be back anyway. Unless your weight varies a lot.

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Anyway. So what happens if you have something which sparks joy but you know you're never going to wear it again? Like, say, your wedding dress?

I'm not keen on discarding good clothes either.
Always worth keeping fashionable items because in 30 years they'll be back anyway. Unless your weight varies a lot.

If you love it that much it's 'sparking joy' so keep it. I would.

Anyway. So what happens if you have something which sparks joy but you know you're never going to wear it again? Like, say, your wedding dress?
Definitely keep it. I also have my mother's wedding dress.

I'll stick with the William Morris "method".

I'll stick with the William Morris "method".

Basically the same thing though. I read somewhere that 'sparking joy' is not really a good translation from the Japanese.

What's the William Morris method?

William Morris - Have nothing in your homes that you do not know to be useful or believe to be beautiful.

Not much different to 'sparking joy' as MK uses it - I don't think knives and forks etc. usually 'spark joy', as such, although they are definitely useful. Marie Kondo doesn't suggest people throw away their cutlery.

William Morris:

Have nothing in your house that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful.

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Think I need to revisit the folding method!

I'll add:

... Or that your child may need to use for a school project.

I have 2.5m of wardrobe, 2m is hanging and 50cm of drawers with shelves above (Ikea Pax) plus a large bow front antique chest of drawers.
1m of wardrobe has double rails for tops, the rest is full height. So there is actually 3m of rail space.I had the same roughly at our old house too.

DH has yet to organise his wardrobe order and is using temporary rails (we moved in 5 months ago), but he will have 2-3m of Pax I imagine.

We have 2 superking bedrooms and 1 large double so plenty of space.

"Anyway. So what happens if you have something which sparks joy but you know you're never going to wear it again? Like, say, your wedding dress?"

It sparks joy, under the sentimental category, so you decide to give it a space in your home.

You don't decide what to discard, you decide what to keep.

I have followed her from the beginning, I've never been into clutter and had to be organised to suit my children with SN, so it was easy to do. Except for the sentimental and lost cost falicy, this method helped me with that.

I don't follow her advice about minimal non seasonal clothing, I like colours to reflect the season. Jewel colours over winter, brights over summer.

So smaller parts of the method you can personalise and make it work for you.

Lweji, you wouldn't discard them, because they bring you joy, or they are useful. Wjen your done deciding what to keep, then you work out your storage.

Also everything in the house isn't yours, what belongs to each member of the household, they decide whether to keep or discard.

Or even buy in the first place.

That's the misunderstood part, it isn't minimalism for the sake of it.

"We have 2 superking bedrooms and 1 large double so plenty of space."

If you want to use the space in your house for clothes storage, then thays up to you because it sparks joy.

Someone else might be desperate for a sewing etc room but can't see how they'd make it work.

The method questions how you use your space.