to want a no deal Brexit NOW

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I honestly think that a no-deal Brexit followed by recession, blockades, rotting food, empty supermarkets, disappearing multi-natiionals, factories and banks relocating abroad, job losses, more job losses in the hundreds of thousands, civil unrest, rationing and power cuts are the ONLY way to get people to sit up and realise that "the will of the people" was a complete con based on lies and deception and that we actually should be in the EU.

I agree, Leavers are unable to learn from this, Brexit is an act of faith, no logic or facts are needed.

And what do you propose happens in Ireland whilst all this is going on

Exactly. And Gibraltar who voted by 93% to remain and are being ignored.

Tusk is right, there is a special place in hell for the no-dealers. How could you possibly want an arrangement that causes so much misery to so many?

Agree with op

It's not only ants and fungi. There's loads of horrible parasites that influence animal behaviour.

There's a fluke that infects snails and makes them go out into the light rather than stay in dark areas, this makes them more likely to be eaten by birds, where the fluke lays its eggs to be shat out by the bird and then the fluke eggs are eaten by snails...

Just a little tip for the hard of thinking.

A post title isn’t a summons. If you see something that you think might be boring, you aren’t compelled to open.

Try not clicking...

Yabvvu just speculating and assumptions.

Do you do this with your kids- if they nag and nag and nag you for more chocolate you say 'eat all the freeking chocolate, but trust me you will be sick all night and have tummy pain and wont be able to sleep and you will vomit and you will have to clean it up yourself' and they still eat all the fucking chocolate? that's how I see the situation now. Children nagging about 'having our country back'. They know that people will lose their jobs, more homeless, more poverty, poorer NHS, poorer support for people with disabilities, that's not even mentioning the short term food shortages, medecine shortage, etc. Yet the idiots still want to eat all the fucking chocolate. Idiots.

And op, some of what you are speculating was happening years ago before the referendum. We do not need a deal to get out of Europe and make it on our own,then start negotiating afterwards.

Doesn't toxoplasmosis make humans take more risks?

Maybe there is a Brexitplasmosis germ making the rounds.

Anyone who wants a no deal Brexit doesn't give a shit about the people of Northern Ireland, residents and part of the UK. It's that simple.

Ah see that threat always backfires... they eat the chocolate and are fine and looking for more. No idea what that does to your metaphor.

OP - no thanks I don't want any of the above. Get your act together, nobody wants to be homeless and dead in a dark street corners after failing to get food and shelter.

Well shit, I've spent all this time just avoiding topics I find tedious, when I could instead have posted on them, whining about how boring I think they are.

OK I'm off to do some virtual nose-thumbing on threads about baby names and make-up...

There are parasites affecting human behaviour too. Guinea worm, living under the skin, for example, induces itch which can be relieved only by immersing oneself into water, where it releases eggs to infect more humans.

Warning: Don't google guinea worms, they are even less pleasant than Brexit

Anyone who wants a no deal Brexit doesn't give a shit about the people of Northern Ireland,
It is clear from the threads here, many don't give a shit about NI or the republic.
I am Irish in Ireland and I'm sick of Brexit talks wasting the government time when the reall issues in the country are sidelined.
I suspect we will have shortages not for as long as the UK.
AID will be sent over the border even if it is smuggled.
The Americans are now concerned with UK trade agreement over the back stop. It is all a disaster but I think NI will more than likely be looked after as it is so delicate.

I know what you mean OP, I'm furious that 24% of the country have essentially shot our economy in the head and refuse to see (despite widespread evidence) that this is a BAD thing.

The main reason I'm anti Brexit (the economic downturn won't affect me too badly) is because it will hit the poorest and most vulnerable in our society the hardest - though I will admit that as time goes on and the Leave vitriol increases, I'm starting to think 'fuck you, you made your bed...'

AID will be sent over the border even if it is smuggled.

NI is luckier than Britain, in that way. I remember many a smuggling trip to/from Dundalk. I’m just wondering how it’s going to affect the trains between us and you, EmeraldShamrock. Are they going to be checking for I’d on the train, checking bags, etc, if (when) the British government fucks us over?

"we have been in the EU a blink of an eye compared to the vast and rich history of our nation."

I'm sick of hearing that. For the first time in history we are fully rejecting European influence.

Whenever I ask Brexit supporters their opinion on what the Plantagenets did for the UK, they haven't a clue who I'm talking about.

They don't seem to realise who Henry viii Wives were, who Queen Victoria's children married etc. Or how entwined our history has been and depended on, the rest of the World.

We needed all of the civil unrest to keep the population down. The industrial revolution pulled us out of the shit. Then, once again World Wars helped with over population.

"Our rich history" includes a lot of unnecessary death, starvation and misery.

I lived before a lot of the Acts bought in by the EU, which helped to make the Government invest in infrastructure and extend welfare and life before these, for many WC people and the disabled was shit.

The Tories have shown us, with Universal Credit and the harshness of ESA/PIP assessments, the cutting of public funds how life would be, if they were fully in charge.

Some ministers are already calling for changes in the laws of protesting, because they know what's coming. They are also saying that they would be happy to use the Military.

For those in their bubbles, just remember that they're easily popped, when the shit hits the fan.

"wait and see" was said about the bedroom tax and universal credit. This is too bigger a deal to "wait and see".

If there is s no deal they'll definitely be stopped by border control, along with buses trucks, it will be a disaster.
I am not sure if you'll need more than ID.
I will my bike out with a basket of tins

@positivelyPERF they already are checking ID on cross border travel routes, and have been for a long time. If you are white you probably haven't been affected. I've certainly seen this happen on cross
border buses, I'm sure they are on the trains too.
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positivelyPERF they already are checking ID on cross border travel routes, and have been for a long time
It is true it is immigration, but it isn't a regular check just random. I saw it 2 or 3 times out of 20 journeys.
It is a bit racist. I was giving my Id and when I spoke, he said it is ok you're Irish and didn't check it.
I am sure it will be on every trip and very strict going forward.

@Goingonandonandon yep exactly

OP it might be useful if they could do a dry run, applying all the proposed rules etc say a month before, to show everyone what would actually happen in a no deal scenario. That way people are actually experiencing it and not just dismissing it as project fear headlines and there would still be time to extend article 50.

Not that I think this could or would happen. BUT I do wish a special sort of no deal hardship/chaos on those die hard Brexiteers who will not listen to any reason and dismiss everyone as trying to take away their voice, or talk down to them etc and obviously on the politicians who wilfully misled a lot of people.

Careful what you wish for OP. The effects of a no-deal brexit may not make any difference to people's world view - people can be remarkably stubborn.