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DD’s birthday party and exDH

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Riverside85 · 01/02/2019 17:44

Background: exDH and I have been separated for nearly 2 years. We have DD age 4. Since we’ve split up, we’ve both had new partners. I’ve been seeing DP for around a year. ExDH was seeing a woman for around 6 months then split up with her and has now been seeing another woman for around 3 months. The new woman he’s seeing has two DDs age 4 and 6. He has our DD each Wednesday, Friday and every other Saturday, though we are flexible and generally have good communication if either of us have different plans. DD has met the other DDs quite a lot, because they’re similar age they all seem to get on well, they go out to park, cafes etc and I’ve dropped DD over at their house rather than exDH’s house a couple of times when he’s been there. Things are amicable and I’m happy to all get along.

DD will be turning 5 in April and she’s having a whole class party (Reception class) at a church hall with an entertainer. When going over dates, I made sure exDH knew when the party was (for him to come and to tell his Mum, DD’s Nana), and the first thing he asked was “Can I invite Sally and Molly?” (his new DP’s girls- not real names!). I said “Erm well I’ll have a think about it but to be honest I’d probably prefer not. It’s a family occasion with grandparents etc being there as well as DD’s full class, none of whom Sally and Molly will know”. He’s only been seeing their Mum a few months (since November), I haven’t met her yet. I suggested that he have a birthday tea party the following day with the two girls, have balloons, party hats, cake etc and make DD feel special.

That was all a couple of weeks ago. This morning he texted me about an idea he has for a present for DD’s birthday, we texted back and forth about it a couple of messages then I said “Are you happy to pay half of DD’s birthday party- half of hall hire, entertainer and food?” (Last year, our first year separated for DD’s birthday, she had a soft play party and we paid half each). His reply was, “Can I invite Sally and Molly then if I’m paying half?”

I just don’t know what to say?! On the one hand I want to say “Nevermind, I’ve got it” and pay it all myself. Of course he and his mum etc still welcome. I just don’t see why his new DP of 3 months and her DD’s need to be there?! They won’t know anyone. But then I feel like he’ll be making out to the new DP that I’m unreasonable “oh, Riverside won’t let your girls come to the party” and get us off on a bad foot, when I do want to have a good ongoing relationship with her if they’re to stay together in the long term. Other side of me wonders if I should call his bluff and say ok if it means that much to you, invite them. Then be all breezy and welcoming at the party. I don’t know what to do!

Also, it’s petty but I fail to make it through my OP without mentioning his passive aggressive dig at my new DP, when I said “Well, DP won’t be at the party either” (he doesn’t have kids), and exDH’s reply was “Oh really, I thought he’d like some jelly and ice cream and enjoy the magic show” (because new DP is 10 years younger than him, 6 years younger than me 🙄)

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PregnantSea · 02/02/2019 10:44

YABU.

I think that it was too early for the ex to introduce the kids to his new partner and her kids, that would have irked me slightly, but I think now that this has happened there's no good reason not to invite them to the party. Sounds like they get on great. It comes across as petty I'm afraid

Maelstrop · 02/02/2019 10:57

Put a claim in for cms, are you mad? Your child is entitled to that money.

Riverside85 · 02/02/2019 10:59

elvis86 The only thing I can say is that the maintenance thing hasn’t been mentioned for months and months, whereas the party he directly asked me (twice) so I was forced to give an answer. My knee jerk reaction was what on Earth, why do they need to be invited?! But after stepping back and thinking about it, and responses on this thread, I have said I will invite them. If he directly asked me “shall I pay maintenance?” I would say well yes! But it’s down to me to bring it up I suppose, so it’s not that the party is my priority over the maintenance, just that the discussion about the party was ongoing and maintenance hadn’t come up.

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Figgygal · 02/02/2019 11:20

Even though I think it's waaaaay too soon for him to be played out with this new woman's children and really makes me question what she's thinking if it is as casual as you think why not just have them at the party especially if it will encourage him to pay her

But yes he should be paying maintenance sounds like a bit of a cheeky bastard to be honest

elvis86 · 02/02/2019 11:27

Still makes zero sense, OP.

You approached him to ask him to contribute half towards the party. Can't understand why you haven't approached him to ask him to pay maintenance?

Sounds like he still has a lot of control over you, and you're just realising it.

You're frightened to ask him to pay maintenance, but you took an opportunity to assert yourself by refusing for his partner's kids to attend the party (despite the fact she already spends time with them).

How long were you with your new partner before he met your daughter?

Longtalljosie · 02/02/2019 11:31

But - you’ve got the whole class coming! And your DD spontaneously asked! Really - just invite them. Not least because it will make all 3 girls happy

Riverside85 · 02/02/2019 11:33

elvis Yes, I thibk you’re probably right about the control.

I didn’t refuse his partner’s kids to come to the party. If you look back at my OP, you’ll see that I said “well I’ll have a think about it, but I’d probably prefer not because X” and then I hadn’t given a further answer when he then said he “can I invite them if I’m paying half?” Which again, I haven’t yet given an answer to, so I haven’t “asserted myself” and “refused”.

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Riverside85 · 02/02/2019 11:35

Longtalljosie DD hasn’t asked about the other girls coming to the party, she doesn’t know we’ve discussed it. I don’t think she’d miss them if they weren’t there, but equally I’m sure she’d be pleased to see them if they did come.

Do remember that in my OP I mentioned my idea for exDH to have a little birthday tea party with his new DP and her two girls.

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Jeezypeepers · 02/02/2019 11:36

You need to tell him to pay maintenance. That money’s for your daughter! He doesn’t get to just decide not to pay because it suits him, that’s insane! He has a legal obligation to support his child financially, which he’s not doing. Are you honestly saying you couldn’t find a use for over £2,300 a year for clothes/food/bills/treats for her?

Tell him to start paying maintenance, and tell him today. If he’s seeing his GF’s kids as much as you say he’s probably spending more on them than he is on his own child!

elvis86 · 02/02/2019 11:38

"Do remember that in my OP I mentioned my idea for exDH to have a little birthday tea party with his new DP and her two girls."

Sorry, but I do think that you're asserting control where you're comfortable doing so.

You've tolerated him paying no maintenance since you split. You've been aware that your daughter spends time with the new partner's kids, and you've said everything is civil etc. But you're making a stand regarding 2 additional kids at a whole class party, and trying to dictate that he should celebrate with DD and his partner and kids seperately.

unicornsarereal1 · 02/02/2019 11:40

So is he only paying half of the party so the new partner and her children can come?

My ex tried this.
I didn't accept the money and told him not to attend.
I also filed a claim with CMS - how are you letting him not pay for his child?!

He's messing around with contact, not paying for his child and also wants to only contribute to a party if it's on his terms.

He's controlling and inconsistent.

Ring CMS on Monday. They only start the claim from the day you call them - they don't backdate it.

Riverside85 · 02/02/2019 11:44

elvis86 I’m not making a stand, I’ve said I’m going to invite them. I don’t think it’s inconsistent to say I’m comfortable with DD spending time with them during his contact time, but uncomfortable with their Mum (his new DP) spending a couple of hours with me, all the school run mums, my parents and his mum. But after spending time thinking about it and listening to responses on here, I have said I’ll invite them, I’m genuinely not trying to make any kind of stand.

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Consolidatedyourloins · 02/02/2019 12:01

OP, it sounds like you need that maintenance.

Invite them to the party.

On a separate occasion say you are finding it increasingly difficult to aide DD on a single wage and he needs to start paying maintenance. Ask him whether he wants to set up a monthly standing order to you or dies he prefer to go via CMS.

SunburstsOrMarbleHalls · 02/02/2019 12:12

I actually can not believe that your ex is such a cheeky fucker that he thinks he should not have to pay child maintenance because he has chosen to live in an expensive area!

I have heard some excuses in my time but that takes the Biscuit

He is shirking his legal and moral responsibility to financially contribute towards his daughters upbringing. How he has the audacity to try to justify this is beyond me.

I know you want an amicable relationship so you can co parent effectively, but seriously he is mugging you off big time. He is telling you about how he is tucking his girlfriends children into bed and reading them bedtime stories whiles shirking the absolute minimum basic responsibility of supporting his own daughter.

The man is a complete joke, thank goodness he is your ex.

Twillow · 02/02/2019 12:55

Invite them. It will be the making of your child as an adult that her separated parents can get along. I wish I could do it...

Amallamard · 02/02/2019 13:55

I think inviting them is the right thing to do given that they have already met and spend time together. When it comes to the party just make sure you have a big smile on your face, be relaxed and cool and smiley and chatty with everyone. Don't let him think he's beaten you down about it. Once the party is out of the way I think you really do need to address the maintenance issue. You may not feel that you need it now but you never know when life might throw you a curve ball and suddenly you do need it. Far better to have it in place already. If you don't need it then just put it in your DD's savings account, or put it in an account of your own to save for a rainy day.

Readysteadygoat · 02/02/2019 14:54

I'd have to laugh at his comment about the jelly and ice cream - jealous much?! What a wally

PCohle · 02/02/2019 15:12

I think inviting them is the right thing to do OP - taking the high road etc. I do think his new GF will probably be a bit Confused at spending an afternoon with your mother and all your family etc, but that's his problem!

It does sound a bit like all the flexibility and amiability in your relationship is for his benefit and not yours. And his new relationship is moving bloody fast...

Thehop · 02/02/2019 15:21

The wording consolidatedyourloins used above is perfect. Please do sort that after the party.

I’d advise going through CMS, it means you get a reflection of pay rises etc and don’t rely on him.

ReanimatedSGB · 02/02/2019 15:39

Regarding the party, I would say yes, let these two kids come - your DD clearly gets on well enough with them (and I remember a few parties when my DS was little where there would be one or two kids who either only knew the birthday kid, or who were invited because their parents were friends with the birthday kid's parents, and all was fine.)

However, I think you need to start considering how you are going to stand up to this prick in the future, because he actually doesn't want to keep things civil. He wants you to refuse things because then he can bully and override you - it's no fun for him if you agree to his requests. He wants to make sure that you can't have a peaceful life with DD and your new DP, but that you are constantly worrying about what outrageous demand the fucker will make next. Because you dared to reject him rather than devoting your life to pleasing him, he will make sure you are punished indefinitely.

Mind you, as a side note, the friendship between your DD and these other little girls might have an up side. When the new GF sees through your XH and throws him out, you might find yourself with another ally against him...

woolduvet · 02/02/2019 15:59

Yep invite them, it's not a big deal to you.
Assess all these changes to having your ds, do you both benefit from being able to swap of is it just him.
And yep he needs to pay maintenance, even if you put it away for something nice for her.

Riverside85 · 02/02/2019 16:59

woolduvet I have benefited from us being flexible and being able to ask each other to swap as well. A few weeks ago I had a big day at work on the Monday so I asked him if he could have DD on the Sunday night (he picked her up after tea) so I could go over some work and I could then get into work early in the morning, so that was a help.

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Riverside85 · 02/02/2019 17:01

I have let him know that I intend to invite the girls to the party, he replied “great thanks”. So I’ll see what the next thing is 😂

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Riverside85 · 03/02/2019 16:49

Thank you all those who replied on this thread. Feel I must update you, if anyone is interested!

Today I received text from ex saying “I’ve messed up with X” (the new DP). I said “oh, what’s happened?” He says “Shagged Y and she’s found out” (Y being the previous woman he was seeing for around 6 months as mentioned in my OP). He then said “Shame as DD really liked her”.

I mean, really 😡😡😡

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WhoGivesADamnForAFlakeyBandit · 03/02/2019 16:52

Oops Hmm
Dare you to ask if he still wants to invite them...

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