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First and surnames on leavers hoodies is a safeguarding issue

362 replies

SavonDeMarseille · 01/02/2019 09:08

Just found out the Y6 leavers hoodies (FFS since when was this a thing for Yr6!) will have the full names on their hoodies in the year number with their own name above the number and the school emblem and name on the front. AIBU to think this is a big safeguarding issue and should not be permitted. AI also BU or to want to take this up with the PTA who are organising this. Hoodies are worn all week on Yr 6 school trip.

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busyhonestchildcarer · 02/02/2019 17:57

It is just a nice keepsake.You dont have to buy one.No problem with safeguarding as the children would have left the school anyway

Smotheroffive · 02/02/2019 17:59

bagofjelly wouldn't life be kind and easier! Any DC can have whatever they want outside of the shared school education environment, but those souvenirs shouldnt be at the cost of anyone else (risk or social embarrassment)..why should they?!

gamerwidow · 02/02/2019 18:00

I think most schools will have something in place to make sure the children whose families are struggling won't miss out.
I know at our school in past years if one of the year 6's is being left out of the leaving activities because of cost one of the organisers will normally quietly sort something out to make sure they can be included without any embarrassment to the family.

Smotheroffive · 02/02/2019 18:00

Glad there are still people that consider negative effects on others might take priority over their wants.

Smurf52 · 02/02/2019 18:09

This is not a safeguarding issue and is just taking rules to ridiculous extremes. My GD and friends all loved their leavers’ hoodies in 2015 and she still wears hers. How would anyone know from the 90 small names on the reverse which name refers to which child, and quite often they are covered by backpacks anyway? Our PTA paid for our hoodies, so no charge to parents and it’s a lovely reminder of friends for years to come after spending seven years together at primary school. It’s an excellent idea for all concerned so don’t spoil it for the majority.

Dilovescake21 · 02/02/2019 18:12

Seriously the font is so small you won’t be able to see it and they are all put next to each other without commas so it’s actually really hard to workout the individual names.
There are much bigger threats out there via the internet/social media.

EllenMP · 02/02/2019 18:12

I’m not sure how this is a problem. At my sons’ school the hoodies have all the kids’ names on them but don’t say the name of the hoodie owner. So if someone saw you them wearing it they would have no idea which of the 90 names was theirs. I can’t see how the list of names is of any use to anyone. It’s not posted online in and sort of searchable format, so it is not going to help bad people find a particular child. I don’t see the problem. We assume that all information shared about our kids is dangerous instead of thinking it through.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 02/02/2019 18:15

A lot of our lot had their nicknames on their hoodies.

zeeboo · 02/02/2019 18:21

Oh won't somebody think of the children!!!!

Smotheroffive · 02/02/2019 18:37

Small names not an issue, OP was talking about, and others, wearers name on hoody, and other school items like shirts and jumpers. (If I didn't know what they were, I wouldn't have known they were names) although I imagine most weirdos do now.

ToftyAC · 02/02/2019 18:39

My eldest had one years ago. His year group only wore it for about a week. After that they were all at different schools anyway so in the long run didn’t matter. Certainly no safeguarding issue though. No wonder social services are overrun if people keep putting these type things under safeguarding scenarios. Sheesh.

MuddlingMackem · 02/02/2019 18:48

For those children who can't have their name on the class list of a hoodie it doesn't mean they can't have a hoodie at all, they could maybe have their initials on the front or sleeve so they still have a memento but not one that puts them at risk.

In @sadwithkiddies's case, first (+any middle) inital(s) plus full last name sound like it could possibly work for her children, and any others who have had their last name changed but have distinctive first names. Hoodies are one of the more practical souvenirs if they're given them early enough in the year to wear them as uniform.

Lolipop44 · 02/02/2019 18:52

DSS had one in yr4 (we have primary school, middle school then high school)
he's now in high school and looks back on his named hoody fondly. We never had an issue with him having it he was walked to and from school

flowergrrl77 · 02/02/2019 19:09

I know that with my kiddies there was a form sent out for approval of kiddie names! I’m pretty sure some of them had their name different or not on it at all.

Personally I think it’s lovely. Canny actually see the full names unless actually close enough to touch the kid!

Italiangreyhound · 02/02/2019 19:14

The ones I've seen have all leavers names on them. So not identifiable and cheapee due to bulk printing.

BowStreetStunner · 02/02/2019 19:18

I do not think it is a safeguarding issue but I do understand your concerns and I would have thought knowing how schools are about confidentiality I would have thought they would have not done this.

As a teacher (in secondary) I was surprised year six had leaver's hoodies but I guess it is optional I did hear of a primary school who had a party for the leavers and it was turned into a mini prom by some with fancy cars to arrive in, big dresses and hair and make-up done not the intention of the school who just put on a party but I assume by some parents students even called it "prom".

BowStreetStunner · 02/02/2019 19:20

Please excuse poorly constructed and almost unreadable sentence above been a long week lol!

bubblegumunicorn · 02/02/2019 19:50

I could understand this being done at a leavers assembly on the last day because suddenly the kids don’t go to the school anymore! It’s weird they have to wear them on school trips though where are they going? Because my year 6 trip was at an out of bounds centre in Scotland and we didn’t leave the grounds all week it was only our school and the camp leaders who were there so everyone knew our names and school anyway! However if it’s like a week in London I can see the concern as it could be easy for a child to get lost in a place with a lot of people! It really depends on the context! I also think it’s not a safeguarding issue exactly but it could be a privacy issue I get not wanting children’s names out in public until they are over 16 I guess the main question is what environment are the children going to be wearing them before the summer holidays and how long is the school trip before they leave the school!

bubblegumunicorn · 02/02/2019 19:51

Should say outward bounds centre

BowStreetStunner · 02/02/2019 20:32

Out of bounds made me laugh!

Fowles94 · 02/02/2019 20:43

Just either don't get one or don't allow them to wear it on the trip.

genius1308 · 02/02/2019 21:36

I organised the hoodies for our year 6 leavers last year. I sent out a letter to all parents and asked what name they wanted on the hoody. Some wanted full names, some just first names and some wanted nick names. It is a safeguarding issue and thats the reason i sent a letter to the parents, which they had to sign and return, so they were completely responsible for what was written. I've got to admit it was an absolute minefield through, glad i haven't got to do it again this year Confused

castielchace · 02/02/2019 21:45

I've had a 2017 leavers hoodie for dd1 then 2018 hoodie for dd2,no surname was added though,we've only got roughly 24 in a class as we live in a small village so to make the numbers big enough our kiddies names are put on many multiple times,they are good thick quality & cost us £25 each & my daughter's loved them so I was one happy mum..safeguarding!!!! Grow up for god's sake soon our DC won't be able to breath..tight mother seems more like it X

genius1308 · 02/02/2019 22:11

@castielchace, the safeguarding issue is for 'looked after' children/children who are in foster care etc who are not allowed contact with parents.

ChubRubTheStruggleIsReal · 02/02/2019 22:52

By the time they’ve been given out they would be a mere couple of weeks before they leave. Opt out if it’s a problem, just don’t ruin it for everyone else.