#shameonyouwarwick

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Warwick Police haven't prosecuted anyone for these vile rape threats and Warwick uni are now letting (some of?) the perpetrators back in to study at the same university alongside those they discussed threatening to rape.

Would you be happy sending your child here?

Warwick students suspended over rape threats allowed to return earlyly*_

I've just read this. I cannot CANNOT ever accept that this is just some high jinx silly jokes.

That's fucking vile. What does it says about women in society? That no one gives a shit.

What with that and another thread re: 6 year old girl sexually assaulted by another boy, and they go 'we'll keep an eye on it'.

This post has made me so angry, I'm fed up of entitled males getting away with "bantz" and "locker room talk" and actually assaulting girls and women because they have a right to an education, their lives are going to be ruined, they have a bright future ahead.

This has to stop!

Stopping this entitled behaviour starts at home, I'm a parent of a 15yr old boy, 13 yr old girl and a 11 yr old boy.

I would be failing all my children if my sons grew up to behave like these misogynistic llittle pricks.

Parents bring your children up right, teach them that this behaviour is wrong.

Personally I think they have broken laws with hate speak.

I’ve not read all the pages just the first couple (I’ll read the others later).
If a Muslim man discusses blowing up a shopping centre, we all hope the justice system Has something which enables us to remove him from the street, rather than waiting for him to be “caught in the act” of actually doing so. Chances are those plans are also discussed privately.
Why is this any different?

I was at university in the late 1970s and early 1980s. The most dangerous thing we were faced with in halls was The Phantom Porridge Flinger. We were warned not to cross the park to the main university campus at night but the halls were a safe space. The only offence I can remember taking place was a flasher and the university dealt with him severely.

Mind you, despite the social attitudes of the times, I don't remember any of this violent misogyny then in young men. We were treated as equals and respected.

The VC, Stuart Croft, has released an open letter today. It’s pretty dreadful.

warwick.ac.uk/newsandevents/pressreleases/statement_by_professor?fbclid=IwAR1v4U-feHsubuvvysb-ULtkVXFRVYo9m9XRWmhgdeS9V7dPXgE3T9t9wqI

What was the new evidence?

Considering how much money each student brings in its easy to see why they've allowed them to return earl

This argument is, I am afraid, nonsense. Warwick has about 15000 undergraduates. Every year some drop out, done fail. If a department the size of history (where most of these tossers were) failed ten more than usual no one would raise an eyebrow. Universities of warwick’s Scale do not take management action in the basis of 10 home students (less than 0.1% of heads, much less than 0.1% of fees) being absent. There are many reasons to think it Reveals awful attitudes, but it is not about money.

Interested to hear what the “new evidence “ was that would magically justify essentially exonerating these men? Another load of waffle - a university to avoid. Exeter took robust and clear action in a similar scenario

Russell Group University's are again under the spotlight. Record number of students commiting suicide at Bristol disclosed in the Sunday times a couple of weeks ago, now this - vile attacks being threatened against female students at Warwick. Your student care/protection policies need serious review. You are failing the students in you care - you are not fit for purpose.

That statement is a load of wibble.
Makes me think of mr blobby reading it 'blobby blobby blobby' in a weird tinny voice.

The Q and A were slightly better

NO women should ever defend men having the right to treat women like this... women (and some men) are cowering in the corners of some homes because of abusive treatment by partners.. this is a form of control and yes mental abuse... where do you think this starts? These boys families are standing by them it seems .. explains why they behave the way they do ...and the fact they wish to return shows an innate lack of sensitivity or consideration for those they have affected...
They are arrogant and entitled and I would sue my employer if a colleague did this to me in my work place and expected me to have to work along side them... double standards are at play here ... they messed up and that’s tough .. now they have learnt they can get away with stuff... money talks yet again ... no working class kid would have got off so lightly..
Ps this is the same as threats to kill and the police will have you in front of a magistrate for that ... it’s bad enough that rape does not get long enough sentences and stalkers are seen as harmless until they go to far!!!

Stuart Croft appears to me to be an absolute fucking wanker. Just my opinion.

It’s not just unsafe for women - I wouldn’t want my son’s to go there and endure such a toxic mysoginistic environment - the pool from which they’ll make their male friends. Failure of moral leadership on the university’s part.

He is par for the course for VCs, I’m afraid. The first paragraph of his statement is the classic sort of virtue-signalling that senior managers in HE like to indulge in to conceal the fact that they are actually psychopaths.

OMG...my daughter is/was seriously considering Warwick for Maths.....

I can understand your concerns FairyFlake but just to put the other side my DS is at Warwick with a wonderful group of boy / girl friends. They are so angry about what has happened and along with lots of other students they are planning their own protests - but it hasn’t changed the fact that he has had two of the best years of his life so far.
I have 3 DC’s and out of them all he is probably the least ‘streetwise’ so his idea of ‘best years of his life’ is lovely friends / nights in watching movies together / doing sports together / joining societies/ going to pub quizzes / going to the odd club night etc. rather than anything much wilder. It’s been the perfect place for him - although it did take a few months to settle in initially (although i think that would have happened wherever he went.)

That statement...what did I just read? All about him, and the guilty parties. Did he really not express any sympathy for the complainants?

God if he has a professional PR team I hope they are fired in the morning. That is one appealing statement.

FFS apple

Appalling not appealing!!

He should be fired too for weakness and moral collapse and just terrible judgement, in my opinion.

Thank you for that sonatuni....my daughter going off to uni worries me as she has ASD is is definitely not streetwise. Reading stuff like this...that the uni aren’t protecting thier female students is really very worrying. It’s good to hear something positive from you though, so thanks.

Fairyflake hope your DD finds the ideal place for her and has a really positive time at uni.

I can't believe they're going to be allowed back. I hope this isn't the end of it. I would never send my daughter's to Warwick now, terrifying lack action on the uni's part. And if I had sons then they wouldn't be going there either.

What BramblyHedge said. At £27K a time Warwick can't afford to let them go.

I think the effect on the university's reputation and the subsequent drop in applications to Warwick/rejection of places already offered to potential students there for at least this year, and possibly longer, will do far more lasting damage to the University than the possibility of legal action by the men in question which it seems the University management is afraid of.
I haven't watched the Victoria Derbyshire interview with one of the girls involved, but she says she was aggressively questioned about her own sexual history (with one or some of the men involved, perhaps, I'm not quite sure) at the investigation, which was presided over by the University's own Press Officer. I find this absolutely disgusting, irrelevant and smacks of victim blaming. The University management is not covering itself with glory.
The petition not to allow those involved in the group chat back on Warwick University Campus is still going strong, if anyone still wants to sign it, though who knows if it will have any effect on things now. The Vice-Chancellor's statement seems to make it clear that he will not go back on the appeal panel's decision. Will academic staff be allowed to refuse to teach the men in question, or will the University management be able to force them to allow them to participate in their classes, does anyone know?