#shameonyouwarwick

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Warwick Police haven't prosecuted anyone for these vile rape threats and Warwick uni are now letting (some of?) the perpetrators back in to study at the same university alongside those they discussed threatening to rape.

Would you be happy sending your child here?

Warwick students suspended over rape threats allowed to return earlyly*_

I don't wish other kids to suffer racism just because I survived it
It didn't build resilience, just misery

Thank you BigChoc - this is how most people would feel about watching others suffer they way they once did.

I'm so sorry your life was made a misery (I was a victim of bullying myself, so have some idea of what you went through), but am glad that you have come through with generosity of spirit.

Aridane would you feel differently if the girls mentioned were young females in your family?

I'm sorry for what happened to you when you were a child. I find it sad that it's made you seem at times to therefore not give a shit about the young girls after you.

Do any of you know the victims of the comments and their views on the University’s actions? I’m interested to know what the women’s views are? I’m sure the Uni have consulted them (unless anyone knows they weren’t)

I don't know what they've done at Warwick, but I'd be very surprised if the women were "consulted" based on experience working in other universities, Pumpkin70. The procedures followed for disciplinary hearings are usually very careful of protecting the privacy of the student whose behavior is under investigation. Bringing in a load of flatmates and so on is not necessarily likely.

I contacted Admissions and said it's off DS's shortlist of unis until those men are removed from campus. We won't be paying for our son to be educated in an institution that has such contempt for the rights of women and minority groups. If enough people do this and mean it, withdrawing their applications, refusing offers, then they might rethink.

Just read a few comments but not all as yet... I'm also going to write to the university. Who actually polices these universities? Dept for Education??

OneStep - I think that's a great idea.

I wonder what a FOI request to universities over how many ppl have been excluded for this type of thing.

I think the offenders should be obliged to continue their education somewhere else - there are plenty of other universities. Their victims should not have to encounter them in person ever again.

Who actually polices these universities? Dept for Education??

The Minister for Universities is Sam Gymiah. He has made quite a bit of noise about how he wants universities to be in loco parentis, and that student mental health should be an absolute priority. The body that oversees universities is the Office for Students.

Minister for Universities is now Chris Skidmore.

Universities don't have free rein to expel students. You have to behave REALLY badly to get kicked out. Generally you cannot impose an academic sanction for a non academic transgression. E.g. you can't withhold a degree because of unpaid library fines.

You can google and read Warwick's student code of conduct, which interestingly was updated in July 2018.

Interesting to read that one of the participants in this used the 'excuse' that he only joined in because he wanted to be friends with the others in the group, that does NOT excuse or lessen his participation - look what that level of cowardice has led to in the past. Are Warwick University proud that some members of their student body leave University and enter work and society at large with this attitude?

Doh! I’d forgotten the Minister had changed yet again. I can barely keep up!

@GCAcademic I know, they don't last very long these days

These are the regulations students must abide by:

warwick.ac.uk/services/gov/calendar/section2/regulations/disciplinary/

Disgraceful from Warwick Uni. Massive betrayal of the girls mentioned and a safety risk to all women at the uni.

I agree with what everyone has said on this thread.

Would I send my daughter to Warwick - yes absolutely, it’s s great University (I went there myself as a Post Grad) please don’t make comments that if you don’t agree the Uni should be strung up for their actions (or the knobs who made those comments for that matter) that you are somehow condoning what’s happened or even worse making your daughter live in a world where it’s okay for her to be somehow harmed and that you’re somehow part of the problem.

Would I feel safe going there now - yes I would. I know there are sick and twisted individuals all over the bloody place, those that hold abhorrent views etc. I know that doesn’t make everything acceptable though. I’m struggling with those people saying “I’m not sending my child there it’s unsafe” That’s your choice, I get that but don’t advertise and promote Warwick campus like it’s some kind of hot bed of sexual predators and rascists, as I’m sure it’s not. I know I’ll get “well the Uni are sending out the signal it’s okay to have those views”

I’m not going to virtue signal but my view is there was an appeals process, a decision had been made by a panel of people. I truly feel for the students who had the comments made about them. I hope that the twats that made the comments have reflected and changed a little for the better - maybe they’ll be twats forever, who knows.

I sadly expect this will wither out and die as a story, as do many do after s few days of twitter activity and shouting into an echo chamber.

Peace and love all.

Flamingo would you say the same if your DD had been named and threatened in the messages?

And yes I think Warwick have 100% sent out the message they will tolerate threats of violence to female students. Boys like this will continue to be "twats" and worse because they are allowed to.

I agree with you Flamingomum. Statistically, Warwick is one of the safest campuses in the country (11th out of 120). Sadly, I think the attitude of these entitled, misogynistic young men is one that can be found in campuses all over the country (as is also the case in the US), it just so happened that this particular private chat was leaked. And universities willl always cave in to threats of legal challenges.

As well as female students, I feel sorry for academic staff who work there too. They will be disgusted by this, will have to teach these scumbags, and will also see their hard work go up in flames as applicants withdraw in their droves.

And yes I think Warwick have 100% sent out the message they will tolerate threats of violence to female students.

To be fair to the university, they did originally ban some of the culprits from the campus, one of them for life, others for ten years. That seems to me to send a positive message. Clearly something happened during the appeals process, most likely legal threats which the university felt had a good chance of success.

Judging by the policy update in 2018, Warwick didn't have sufficiently robust policy in place to expel someone for this when it happened - but may do so now.

I don't think universities are in general keeping up with the changes brought about by social media.

Christ this is absolutely disgusting. Do you they’d been allowed back so soon if the threats had been made to male members of staff?

This has sickened me and some of the replies on this thread, about it only being words, are disgusting.

I have two grown up sons and if I had any inkling that they thought like this I'd consider myself a failure as a mother.

I'm so angry at some of the replies from actual women on here, no wonder feminism has reverted back to the 19th century with attitudes like this

The university has released a statement:

mobile.twitter.com/warwickuni/status/1090984989024501765

I think it’s fair to say that the statement is not going down well on Twitter.

So the perpetrators are still being allowed back, but when the victims have completed their degree? Hardly a sanction.

What a load of bullshit 😤

I can’t understand how the young men involved or their parents have the arrogance to think it’s acceptable on any level to return to Warwick.

Surely, if one of these men was your son, you would suggest a start somewhere else following a lengthy period of reflection and lessons in how to think, behave and show some remorse.

As a parent, if one of my sons had behaved like this, I would be dying of shame and disappointment and would not want the young women involved to be any more distressed than they already have been.

Evidently not these young men or their ( probably wealthy and legally savvy ) families.

I don’t know how I’d feel if it were my daughter who had been commented on. Of course I’d go ballistic. It’s not a valid argument to say that. I don’t support the death penalty but of course I’d probably feel differently if it affected my family.