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Neighbours dog has just attacked me and DD.

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katkat90 · 27/01/2019 18:39

Have had issues with them in the past

They are elderly, with two large breed dogs (think Great Danes?). They cannot control them. Honestly the amount of times I have seen them nearly pull them over in the street/simply pull out of their grasp and go bouncing off and jumping all over people is untrue.

Was walking back from the shop and saw them coming from a distance so I stepped to the side into another neighbours driveway and next thing I know- one of them had pulled out of its owners grasp and came bounding over and knocked DD (who is just about getting confident with her toddling) over.

It was over in seconds- by the time I put the break on the pram (was stood on a slopes drive so it would of ran off into the road) and went to grab DD she was already on the floor the dog barking at her- so I kicked it to get it away, and it bit my leg.

I was furious. Owner very embarrassed an apologetic but I’ve said enough is enough and I would be contacting the police and the RSPCA.

Heaven forbid it bounded on the pram and just decided to bite my 2 week old. It would of taken her head off no doubt.

V shaken and waiting for DH to get home to call the police and RSPCA.

I’ve also messaged his daughter on Facebook

OP posts:
MrMeSeeks · 27/01/2019 19:41

The dog bit because it was kicked, it was not the dogs fault.
The only person at fault is the owners who clearly can’t take care of big dogs.
They do not need destroying, they're not dangerous, they need owners who can look after them.
Op certainly doesnt med to ring 999 either Hmm

Deadbudgie · 27/01/2019 19:41

Wordthe - no mouthing is a defined term it’s a natural behaviour of dogs who learn as puppies how hard to bite down for different purposes and is different to biting where the dog intends to do damage, what the dog did by the sound of the lack of injuries is clearly mouthing -what was it supposed to do when someone just started kicking it? Stand there wagging its tail? The dog only has its mouth to move objects.

No I’m not impressed by large dogs doing lots of damage! You are clearly a complete imbecile to conclude that. I’m saying that a dog that size would have been able to do lots of damage the fact it didn’t would suggest to me it was not in attack mode. Ie I’m looking at what actually happened rather than reacting with pure hysteria.

dorisdog · 27/01/2019 19:42

Sounds like the owners haven't trained their dogs very well. However, it doesn't sound like you were 'attacked' either, although I'm sure it was scary for you.

If a dog is suspected to be dangerous around people, I think the police (or other trained person) do something called a 'fight to bite' assessment. It looks at whether a dog acted in defence, broke the skin, how forcefully and quickly they tried to bite, etc. Often dogs give 'warning' nips if they feel threatened, so hopefully they'll be able to assess whether the dog is actually dangerous, or whether it just needs better training, or even better owners!!

Pissedoffdotcom · 27/01/2019 19:44

The dogs don't need destroying. They need competent owners.

Wordthe · 27/01/2019 19:46

Deadbudgie-lack of injuries?
it grabbed her by the leg and ripped her clothing, I had a dog grab me by the bare leg (I was wearing shorts) and it ripped my leg

Whisky2014 · 27/01/2019 19:47

So the dog bounded over and knocked the kid down? That is unfortunate but not necessarily an aggressive attack. You say the dog is large so can't imagine it takes much to knock a child over. But you Nicki g the dog started the aggressive behaviour.

Sounds like the old owners shouldnt have them though if they cant hold onto them but I know myself my cockers lead has slipped from my hands by accident before.

MrMeSeeks · 27/01/2019 19:48

It bit her because she kicked it the best dog in the world usnt going to stand that Hmm
Again, bad owners

CoachBombay · 27/01/2019 19:48

Our DS was 2 when he was attacked by a dog on the beach. We went for a family walk when a large breed dog lunged at DS then "ragged" him by the leg and begun to drag DS up the beach. There was screaming, blood it was awful. DH killed the attacking dog there and then by snapping it's sternum. We also own a large mastiff that was luckily not with us because the blood bath I think would have been horrific with DS stuck in the middle of it.

Sometimes I can still hear DS's screams it was awful. So I can completely see why OP kicked the dog to get it away from her DD, it's natural instinct to do so. So I don't think she should be villified for it.

The dogs whilst don't seem to be overly aggressive however do need either better owners or more training.

AmperoBlue · 27/01/2019 19:50

So we have endless missives on how we should protect animals, eat less animals, look after their envirinment etc etc but the second some of us meet a real bloody animal it’s all terror and over reactions.

The dog knocked over her toddler because it’s a big dog and the child has just learnt to walk. It’s not an attack.
It barked because it doesn’t speak. It’s over excited.
It gets a kick
It bites back in defence.I’m pretty sure it’s not a serious bite because you’d know all about it if wanted to hurt you.

But hey, you get the dogs put down because as you say “ I’m scared off dogs”. When did people stop learning how to interact with dogs.

Arkos · 27/01/2019 19:50

Loving all the keyboard warriors who would stand by and let a toddler be terrified/ attacked so that they can be all self-righteous and smug. Yeah... cause dogs trump vulnerable infants.

brighteyeowl17 · 27/01/2019 19:51

As if anyone is defending this. Totally agree with posters saying why should everyone have to supposedly understand every move a dog may make. No dogs should be under control of their owners. And as if a dog bounding over and knocking over a child is ok it could have caused any number of injuries. Dog owners are not suitable to have dogs and should totally be reported.

puppy23 · 27/01/2019 19:52

I'm the biggest dog owner going but this just isn't on - I've had a dog break off its extendable lead and come for my nervous rescue dog in the past. If you can't control a big strong breed like a great dane you shouldn't have them IMO - hope you and your DD are ok and not too shook up.

Wordthe · 27/01/2019 19:52

why do people want such enormous powerful dogs, they are such a menace for the rest of us

how does one manage to execute an attacking dog, did your partner have some special training @CoachBombay
that must have been so traumatizing for you all

Wordthe · 27/01/2019 19:55

When did people stop learning how to interact with dogs
I dont want to interact with dogs, people have them for their own amusement, they are hobbies, pastimes, leisure activities

They should not be impacting upon my leisure time.
Have a dog by all means but make sure it doesn't impose on the rest of us

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CoachBombay · 27/01/2019 19:58

@Wordthe he's a large man of athletic build who is also a Paratrooper.

He knew what needed to be done all I rember was him lifting the dog up above his head after getting it's jaws off DS then slamming it in to the ground from above his head and he's 6ft4, I didn't see the rest I jumped on top of DS, as some sort of human shield hoping if it were to attack again it would get me. I remember hearing DH fist/foot slamming in to this dogs body.

I literally get the shakes when I think about it. It was honestly horrific. The owner of the dog said however had DH not killed the dog after seeing what it had done to DS he would have had the dog destroyed.

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 27/01/2019 19:58

The dog knocked over her toddler because it’s a big dog and the child has just learnt to walk. It’s not an attack.
It barked because it doesn’t speak. It’s over excited.
It gets a kick
It bites back in defence.I’m pretty sure it’s not a serious bite because you’d know all about it if wanted to hurt you.

This.

Pissedoffdotcom · 27/01/2019 19:59

Some people are total pricks

ShowMeTheKittens · 27/01/2019 19:59

God I am terrified of large dogs! You poor thing!

Wordthe · 27/01/2019 19:59

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Pomegranatepompom · 27/01/2019 19:59

A dog jumped up on my DS and he remains terrified of them. Owners have a legal responsibility to control their dogs or keep them on a lead.

Not everyone wants to be jumped on!

puppy23 · 27/01/2019 20:00

Are people really defending the dog being out of the owners control and not securely held on its lead???

Pomegranatepompom · 27/01/2019 20:01

Shocked how self righteous some dog owners are.

Pissedoffdotcom · 27/01/2019 20:02

If you don't have dogs you do not know if a dog barking, whilst standing over your tiny child, is going to escalate or not. All this reading a dog's behaviour is wonderful if you know what to look for. A passer by should not have to take the time to think of how to react. And turning your back is great until the dog jumps at you ffs

Wordthe · 27/01/2019 20:02

you’d know all about it if wanted to hurt you
here it is again, the threat, and the sense of admiration at the terrible damage which could be inflicted should the dog choose to do so

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