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Neighbours dog has just attacked me and DD.

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katkat90 · 27/01/2019 18:39

Have had issues with them in the past

They are elderly, with two large breed dogs (think Great Danes?). They cannot control them. Honestly the amount of times I have seen them nearly pull them over in the street/simply pull out of their grasp and go bouncing off and jumping all over people is untrue.

Was walking back from the shop and saw them coming from a distance so I stepped to the side into another neighbours driveway and next thing I know- one of them had pulled out of its owners grasp and came bounding over and knocked DD (who is just about getting confident with her toddling) over.

It was over in seconds- by the time I put the break on the pram (was stood on a slopes drive so it would of ran off into the road) and went to grab DD she was already on the floor the dog barking at her- so I kicked it to get it away, and it bit my leg.

I was furious. Owner very embarrassed an apologetic but I’ve said enough is enough and I would be contacting the police and the RSPCA.

Heaven forbid it bounded on the pram and just decided to bite my 2 week old. It would of taken her head off no doubt.

V shaken and waiting for DH to get home to call the police and RSPCA.

I’ve also messaged his daughter on Facebook

OP posts:
Buggeredpelvicfloor2013 · 28/01/2019 20:51

Yes, I've been bitten severely by a German shepherd actually, as a child. I still carry the scars. And no, I didn't kick it or provoke it, I was flying a kite at the time. It ran across a field and knocked me flying, then came back to attack. But nah, you keep thinking I've no experience of dog attacks.... 🙄 I've read the post ta, fully agree with her actions and would do whatever the fuck it took to get a massive dog away from my babies. In a fight or flight moment who would actually stop to think about whether to stand still and say no in a loud voice? Adrenaline kicks in and as a parent you do what you have to. Because my kids are more important to me than someone else's dog.

serialtester · 28/01/2019 21:17

Things I've enjoyed on this thread:

Xenia offering to lick people on the crotch

Wordthe being consistently drunk morning, noon and night.

Wordthe · 28/01/2019 21:38

How very dare you😮
🍾🍺🍹🍸🍷🥃

Wordthe · 28/01/2019 21:39

Cheers everyone, bottoms up and woof woof

Headbangdesk · 28/01/2019 21:52

Last week Ds (6) and I were walking home from school, turned the corner and were met with a lady walking a large staffie. It barked aggressively at DS who was walking just behind me. The lady panicked and pulled at the lead telling me to tell DS to stop. Stop what, walking? I have no fucking idea. DS froze anyway out of fear. It tried going towards DS and the lady pulled the dog towards her with huge effort. I shouted no! at the dog and slowly grabbed DS hand and we crossed the road. FFS if I didn't have DS with me I'd have stood there and demanded to know why her dog isn't muzzled if it's barking aggressively and going towards kids.

Wordthe · 28/01/2019 21:55

I guess the thing to do in that situation is take a picture and send it to the local relevant person?

PinkGin24 · 28/01/2019 21:58

@headbangdesk the dog was on a lead!?!? Fucking hell... nothing - literally NOTHING - happened in this situation. It didn't lunge at you, it didn't bite you, it didn't even bloody touch you...

Pissedoffdotcom · 28/01/2019 22:14

The problemnis that the law has changed. I say problem, for responsible dog owners it isn't an issue BUT it has been used to get back at people after rows etc. The dog in the above scenario could easily be reported. And the thing that stands out isn't the barking but the owner's reaction. If you know your dog isn't a risk & is just a mouthy little shit, you don't freeze/tell people to stand still/panic; you tell it to shut up & keep walking. The actions of the owner suggest she knows a) the dog has some issues and b) she can't fully control it. If reported the DLO would potentially pay a visit & give a stern warning; if reported again it would escalate (i know this happens because a friend had to report her ex husband's dog for similar behaviour)

Headbangdesk · 28/01/2019 22:16

Re-read my post, I wrote the dog tried going at DS. It took the lady great effort to control it pulling at the lead with both hands. Had she not managed to it may well have attacked DS. If it had touched DS then it would obviously have been reported.

ChakiraChakra · 28/01/2019 22:17

😂

A dog barked. A dog on a lead barked. The dog was on a lead which the owner kept hold of. The end.

Daily fail, are you listening? The Sun? The Mirror?

Headbangdesk · 28/01/2019 22:17

^^ that was to pinkgin24

PinkGin24 · 28/01/2019 22:17

'Going at' Hmm what vaguely walking towards him!? Poimt is dog was on a lead and nothing happened to your precious child. So why even make out this 'shock horror' experience with a dog is relevant.Hmm

Pissedoffdotcom · 28/01/2019 22:20

It's interesting that people are scoffing at that example. Yet it only takes the FEAR that a dog may be a threat to trigger action now. If your dog jumps at your garden fence & barks at a passer-by they CAN report you & you could be in trouble. Laughing is all well & good but it isn't a laughing matter tbh

Aridane · 28/01/2019 22:21

Hundreds of horse accidents each year on the roads, fatalities much less

www.horseawareness.co.uk/rdinc.htm

Wordthe · 28/01/2019 22:21

Constant ridiculing of people who have been scared and attacked by dogs
it's really not a good look

Aridane · 28/01/2019 22:23

In the US about 100 people a year die from horse accidents

"On average, around 100 people per year die in horse riding accidents. Thousands more riders are injured. The majority of horse related accidents and deaths are due to brain injuries caused as the result of not wearing a helmet. In fact, it is estimated that 60 percent of horse riding deaths occur due to brain injury.

Additionally, horse riding is the third most common animal related cause of death, and horse riding is the sport responsible for the most brain related injuries. Seventy thousand emergency room visits each year are attributable to brain injuries. Of these, nearly 20 percent are related to a head injury."

www.reference.com/world-view/many-people-die-horse-riding-per-year-b68cf99b4894eccd

Aridane · 28/01/2019 22:25

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8339097.stm

Interesting article on horse injuries and fatalities

Wordthe · 28/01/2019 22:26

If your dog jumps at your garden fence & barks at a passer-by they CAN report you & you could be in trouble

Thank you for that information I'm very encouraged to know that very helpful

Aridane · 28/01/2019 22:26

"How dangerous is horse riding?

WHO, WHAT, WHY?
The Magazine answers...

The sacked drugs adviser Prof David Nutt famously compared its risks with those of ecstasy. But just how dangerous is horse riding?

Zara Phillips competes
Eventing is one of the more dangerous parts of horse riding
There are dangers associated with horse riding. Anybody who has ever ridden will know that.
In hunting, point-to-point and eventing, often quite sizeable obstacles are jumped, opening up the possibility of a bad fall.
"It is one of the more dangerous sports, even though the safety equipment is very good," says Lucy Higginson, editor of Horse and Hound magazine.
"There have been quite a few fatalities in Britain over the years. Most people accept riding is a risk sport. The reward and the thrills more than make up for it."
In his paper earlier this year, Prof Nutt noted that riding in the UK was associated with 10 deaths and 100 traffic accidents a year. He coined the tongue-in-cheek "equine addiction syndrome" or "equasy" when suggesting it might be more harmful than ecstasy.
Dr John Silver, emeritus spinal injuries consultant, researched serious injuries in professional rugby union, gymnastics and trampolining, and horse riding, over a period of many years.

THE ANSWER
A complete statistical overview is not possible but a figure of 10 deaths a year has been cited
This is over 3-4 million riders
Many more suffer head and spinal injuries

Drug experts' warning to Johnson
He found many serious accidents resulted from a "mismatch between the skills of the participant and the task attempted".
"It wasn't necessarily that the task was too difficult for a top international rider. A lot were occurring in eventing, people were attempting cross country tasks against time and they couldn't do them against time."
Many other serious accidents happened on the roads.
"Cars, horses and riders are a lethal combination," he adds.
Higginson agreed that eventing was perhaps the most dangerous part of riding. Many television viewers will be familiar with the daunting height of some of the obstacles jumped.
"They are just very large, very heavy animals. If the horse falls over that's when it's most worrying."
But, she emphasises, accidents happen in more mundane circumstances.
Man competes in Horse of the Year contest
Competitors now wear helmets and, often, body armour
"It can happen to people out hacking [riding at a walking pace]."
Safety equipment has become more widespread with many riders not countenancing the idea of jumping without a helmet and chest protector. There are even air bags for horse riders which are strapped to the person's body and triggered by a release cord when a rider begins to fall.
In his paper Hazards of Horse-riding as a Popular Sport, Dr Silver cited a study from 1985 that suggested motorcyclists suffered a serious accident once every 7,000 hours but a horse rider could expect a serious incident once in every 350 hours.
Dr Silver also cites a figure from 1992 of 12 equestrian-related fatalities from 2.87 million participants. He also notes that in the period from 1994-1999, 3% of all spinal cord injury patients admitted to Stoke Mandeville Hospital were the result of horse riding. The majority of people admitted to hospital in such circumstances are women.
It is not easy to gain a complete overview about the dangers of horse riding.
The British Horse Society says there are no centrally collated figures on horse riding injuries. There is no obligation to notify the society about any incident.
And of course, to fans of the sport, many of whom regard it as as much of a way of life as it is a mere hobby, any recognition of the dangers must be tempered by the positives of the sport.

WHO, WHAT, WHY?
Question mark floor plan of BBC Television Centre
A regular part of the BBC News Magazine, Who, What, Why? aims to answer some of the questions behind the headlines
At the time Prof Nutt's controversial paper was published, the British Horse Society pointed out the health benefits of the sport, in terms of providing good exercise and therefore prolonging life, in its attack on the comparison to ecstasy.
Mark Weston, director of Access, Safety and Welfare said: "The health benefits of horse riding are well known, how anyone can maintain that taking a class A drug has such benefits beggars belief.""

Pissedoffdotcom · 28/01/2019 22:27

A lot of Americans don't wear hats do they? Which explains some of the deaths straight out. My mum was in hospital with a professional jumper in Germany who broke her back despite having a protector on. Dangerous sport

BlueSlipperSocks · 28/01/2019 22:27

@headbangdeskthe dog was on a lead!?!? Fucking hell... nothing - literally NOTHING - happened in this situation. It didn't lunge at you, it didn't bite you, it didn't even bloody touch you...

Hahaha the mind boggles doesn't it? There's nothing more entertaining than those who have no fucking clue about dogs who persistently post their contempt on dog threads! 🍿😋 😂

Aridane · 28/01/2019 22:27

Lol - didn't know it was possible to post such a long post Shock Shock

Aridane · 28/01/2019 22:27

(will bugger off now Smile )

Pissedoffdotcom · 28/01/2019 22:29

wordthe it isn't a positive thing. If a dog is contained in a garden it shouldn't matter if it jumps at the fence or barks. As long as it can't reach anybody. Sadly now people can pretend they are scared & owners get into trouble

BlueSlipperSocks · 28/01/2019 22:29

Wordthe

I guess the thing to do in that situation is take a picture and send it to the local relevant person

A video showing exactly what happened before, during and after would be more beneficial

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