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Neighbours dog has just attacked me and DD.

861 replies

katkat90 · 27/01/2019 18:39

Have had issues with them in the past

They are elderly, with two large breed dogs (think Great Danes?). They cannot control them. Honestly the amount of times I have seen them nearly pull them over in the street/simply pull out of their grasp and go bouncing off and jumping all over people is untrue.

Was walking back from the shop and saw them coming from a distance so I stepped to the side into another neighbours driveway and next thing I know- one of them had pulled out of its owners grasp and came bounding over and knocked DD (who is just about getting confident with her toddling) over.

It was over in seconds- by the time I put the break on the pram (was stood on a slopes drive so it would of ran off into the road) and went to grab DD she was already on the floor the dog barking at her- so I kicked it to get it away, and it bit my leg.

I was furious. Owner very embarrassed an apologetic but I’ve said enough is enough and I would be contacting the police and the RSPCA.

Heaven forbid it bounded on the pram and just decided to bite my 2 week old. It would of taken her head off no doubt.

V shaken and waiting for DH to get home to call the police and RSPCA.

I’ve also messaged his daughter on Facebook

OP posts:
Wordthe · 28/01/2019 12:53

If your dog cannot deal with children then you should only take your dog to areas where there are no children
if this is not feasible then obviously it is not appropriate for you to have a dog
Humans should not have to defer to dogs
Owning a dog is not a right

Wordthe · 28/01/2019 12:54

@Pissed, do you think all dogs should be muzzled or just some breeds?

Deadbudgie · 28/01/2019 12:56

M3lon actually my dog can cope well with children -she’s fab with my son. Parents that let a child crawl all over a dog when they have been told no are shit parents. A young child should be under your control at all Times - there’s lots of dangers out there not just dogs. My dog would approach a child (or any stranger) I would never let my child approach A strange dog.

So actually it’s shit parenting

User758172 · 28/01/2019 12:56

@Deadbudgie

Thanks Budgie, I appreciate the advice! I’ll keep it in mind if I’m ever in a situation like that again. We couldn’t really get away from it as we were on the play equipment, maybe a metre above the ground. It was snarling and kept lunging at us, trying to bite our legs. I really didn’t know what to do other than start kicking him. The owner wouldn’t control him.

I love animals and I am sorry for the dog, I know it’s not his fault, but his owner was a dick.

Deadbudgie · 28/01/2019 12:57

Wordthe see above my dog is fine with kids just not ones who throw themselves on top of her and chase her into small tight corners. Shit parenting.

Deadbudgie · 28/01/2019 13:00

Mrsadrianne it sounds like you couldn’t leave so in your situation attack was the only form of defence I hope if you’re ever in that position again you manage to report it that man should not have a dog

BelindasRedPlasticHandcuffs · 28/01/2019 13:01

So Dead has to keep her dog inside at all times because some parents aren't willing to take no for an answer? If it's not lashing out and just walking by unless it's jumped on then what's the problem? It shouldn't be getting jumped on and clearly she is using the appropriate methods to make it clear that her dog is nervous.

Why exactly can't there be respect on both sides? Dog owners keeping their dogs under control (which I think we're all agreed needs to happen) and people understanding that they have to ask before touching a dog and accepting that no means no, not 'oh but he's so cute! Come here little doggy, don't be scared' while trying to chase it around and not realising that it is that behaviour that makes dogs more likely to snap and then calling it dangerous and shouting at the owner that tried to stop it happening in the first place.

Humans should not have to defer to dogs
Owning a dog is not a right

Neither is petting one just because it's cute. Even people with assistance dogs have issues trying to go about their day without being stopped so people can fuss their dog and then getting the hump when they're told not to.

Pissedoffdotcom · 28/01/2019 13:12

word i believe dogs should be muzzled when they require a muzzle. A responsible owner knows if their dog requires one. Similarly a responsible owner knows when to keep their dogs on a lead and has the means to keep hold of said lead

Going down the 'certain breeds should be muzzled' route is ridiculous because it suggests that those not requiring muzzling are somehow friendlier. Which is bull.

Wordthe · 28/01/2019 13:18

@Pissed we know that there are lots of dog owners who are not responsible and will not muzzle animals that ought to be muzzled
what should be done about those dog owners do you think?

M3lon · 28/01/2019 13:18

belindas dead appeared to be describing children chasing her dog under a table. That means she took the dog somewhere indoors that wan't her home, where children were present.

That is surely optional, even if (for some reason that is not at all clear to me) you don't consider owning a nervous or aggressive dog to be optional.

Wordthe · 28/01/2019 13:21

@Belinda I agree that people should not try to engage other people's dogs unless the owner has clearly invited them to do so

Pissedoffdotcom · 28/01/2019 13:24

Personally i think the penalties for idiots with dogs need sharpening up. If your dog attacks another dog because you have not controlled it, you should have the dog removed & get a hefty fine. If your dog attacks a person because you have not controlled it, you should get jail time. Sadly won't happen.

I have no issue muzzling dogs but I detest the notion that only certain breeds should be muzzled. It either should be ALL dogs regardless of breed, or down to individual dogs. I used to muzzle my staff for the safety of other dogs - she was always on lead & never attacked, but if a dog came too close she would react. I stopped muzzling her after she was attacked three times in two weeks by off lead dogs & was unable to defend herself. Situations like that are sadly far too common & usually the muzzled dog comes out worse

Oliversmumsarmy · 28/01/2019 13:26

There are no problem dogs. There are problem owners

Maybe something like a halti lead would help.

M3lon · 28/01/2019 13:28

I totally agree that there are problem owners. So what are we collectively going to do about that?

Biancadelriosback · 28/01/2019 13:29

Word your posts are bizarre

Pissedoffdotcom · 28/01/2019 13:30

I'm definitely of the opinion it is owners not dogs that are the issue. We constantly blame the wrong end of the lead & often the dogs pay heavily whilst the owners get a slap on the wrist

Willow2017 · 28/01/2019 13:31

If your dog cannot deal with children then you should only take your dog to areas where there are no children
if this is not feasible then obviously it is not appropriate for you to have a dog
Humans should not have to defer to dogs
Owning a dog is not a right

What rot.
A dog has every right not to rushed at by excited kud, not have them launch themselves onto it or chase it.
If people cant control their kids maybe they should stay indoors until they can?

BelindasRedPlasticHandcuffs · 28/01/2019 13:34

M3lon Dead should be entitled to take her dog to dog-friendly places whether indoor or outdoor without it being jumped on by children in exactly the same way a person should be entitled to walk down the street without being jumped on by dogs.

Dead explained that her dog was nervous because it had been jumped on previously. Presumably before that it was not. What happens to Dead's dog now that it is nervous because of the actions of other people? She has to rehome a much loved pet? It gets put into an already overflowing shelter? It gets put down? Don't be absurd. I don't go around grabbing stranger's hair or picking up their adorable babies without permission so why would you do it to someone's dog? Basic courtesy isn't hard and we're talking about living animals not soft toys.

@Wordthe I'm glad we agree

Wordthe · 28/01/2019 13:36

I like the idea of dog friendly places
we also need to have dog free places, places where humans do not have to worry about dogs

MoreCheeseDear · 28/01/2019 13:38

Madness. Peak ridiculousness.

A dog has every right not to rushed at by excited kud, not have them launch themselves onto it or chase it.

Dogs have no rights. They are animals.

If people cant control their kids maybe they should stay indoors until they can?

Er, they are humans. They do have rights. Daft thing to say. I can't believe you actually think that way. Weird.

MsTSwift · 28/01/2019 13:38

I don’t think most kids are that enthralled by dogs as owners seem to think. Dogs are two a penny. Never seen kids rushing excitedly towards a dog. It’s the other way round. But am not a dog owner and was bitten on the face by neighbors black lab that ran into our garden while I was minding my own business. Neighbors tried to say that was my fault - my outrage at the injustice actually one of my earliest memories!

Pissedoffdotcom · 28/01/2019 13:38

People should be able to walk their dogs without children thrusting themselves on them. Just as people should be able to walk about without worrying about dogs bouncing all over them. The common denominator there is bad leadership (ie owners & parents).

Willow2017 · 28/01/2019 13:39

Belindas dead appeared to be describing children chasing her dog under a table. That means she took the dog somewhere indoors that wan't her home, where children were present.

That is surely optional, even if (for some reason that is not at all clear to me) you don't consider owning a nervous or aggressive dog to be optional.

Ffs children shouldnt be chasing any animal especially when they are sitting quietly with thier owners not bothering anyone.
And the dog is now nervous Because people cant keep thier kids under control. What should Belinda do? Just get rid of a well loved pet because some parents are dicks?
And btw you dont get a certificate when you get a dog which guarentees the dog will grow up without any problems or personality traits at all. By your reckoning if your dog turns out to be nervous you should just get rid of it!

Pissedoffdotcom · 28/01/2019 13:40

Kids running up to/reaching towards dogs is a pretty common occurence, depending on what breed you have. And it is pissing annoying as a dog owner

Wordthe · 28/01/2019 13:42

Dog owners will try to blame the victim when their dog bites someone and they will say
'oh he never done that before'
(He absolutely has done it before)

Always always see ickle fur baby through rose tinted spectacles

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