To think that the UK police have no right to "check our thinking"?

[HawayMan]

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6636383/Twitter-user-investigated-police-posting-poem-social-media-site.html

Yes, its a DM link; however, the Guardian and BBC don't seem to be covering this story yet...

From the article...

A Twitter user is planning to complain to the Home Secretary after police investigated him for retweeting a poem which suggested transgender women are still men.

Harry Miller is furious at his ‘Orwellian’ treatment by an officer who rang to check his ‘thinking’ after he had ‘liked’ a limerick

In better news, I'm planning on moving to Humberside. Clearly, there must be no actual crime there!

Being 'pleased' isn't quite the reaction I would imagine. Horrified comes closer.

Read his Twitter, if you haven't already. He clearly spends a lot of his time on this topic. He's clearly not horrified, he's too busy loving the attention. One look at his Twitter shows this. I think he owns one of those t shirts as well.

He has opinions AND one of those t-shirts?? Omg call the police! Oh wait, somebody already did

He didn’t commit any crime. It doesn’t matter how gender critical he is or how attention seeking neither is a crime. He’s just as entitled to be as gender critical as he likes and as vociferously as he likes as you are to be the opposite CatsPaw. Again, no crime was committed. Nothing to see here.

His Twitter though 🙄 The t-shirt 😂
I'm done.

I think he owns one of those t shirts as well.

Really? Thats bloody horrendous. Gul should speak to him again about his clothing choices tbh. Bloody disgraceful behaviour from Harry. I am glad our police resources are being used on twitter poems and hurt feelings. Oddly enough, when I reported targeted harassment online once (I would have ignored it but fuck knows how they found every account of mine..on every site, and this went on for weeks...sometimes thousands of abusive messages a day) nothing could be done about it. And that was probably a 'hate incident' given I was being harassed because I am female and bisexual..or those were the things they were focusing on anyway.

If the police got involved everytime someone doesn't like a tweet/like/retweet then twitter would cease to exist as someone somewhere would find anything offensive really. Might not be too bad a thing for twitter to disappear actually thinking about it..

His Twitter is not a crime. He doesn’t believe transwomen are women and says so. Not a crime. His t shirt stating the same belief? Not a crime. You don’t like his Twitter it his t shirt. Too bad. You see we can’t insist everything we don’t like is investigated by the police, if we could I’d have them questioning DH about the beef stroganoff he made for dinner. It’s probably not a crime to feed that rancid mess to your wife but right now my stomach and the nasty taste it’s left in my mouth have me thinking it should be.

The police have become very strange these days. Very strange indeed. What are they supposed to be doing?

MouseUtopia I'm in Australia and I've noticed this strange sort of thought policing, and I feel there is a pressure to say that 2+2=5, iykwim. You are right, freedom means that you can say 2+2=4 without fear of retribution.

www.bbc.com/culture/story/20180507-why-orwells-1984-could-be-about-now

I don't like little girls in high heels. Who can I complain to? Should I report the little girls or their parents?

I find it quite startling to see you defend the police so persistently here CatsPaw. Honestly, whether you or anyone else agrees with him is totally irrelevant. He didn't commit a crime.

'Transwomen are men'
'Transwomen are women'
'Religion is the opium of the masses'
'Salvation is necessary'

All of those statements will offend someone but none are hate speech.

Add 'die in a fire' or any other incitement to violence and we're into police territory.

It wasn’t all that long ago that police wouldn’t consider ‘just a domestic’ worthy of a visit. Get beaten black and blue, broken bones, throttled, threatened, scared for your life... maybe the victims should have just composed a ditty about testicles then?

I’ve just seen the police described on twitter as ‘the paramilitary wing of the guardian’ seems about right.

I almost feel silly for the wee PC.

Yes, I too almost feel sorry for PC Gul. But then I think of all the tweets from people who’s serious incidents weren’t investigated and I feel sorry for them instead

Of course yabu! (Just in case Gull et al are monitoring mumsnet)
TWaW. We've always been at war with Eastasia...

People used to use ‘science’ to justify racism and sexism too, you know. It’s shameful that you can’t see how precisely your behaviour replicates the intolerances of the past.

Oh super. Can you point me in the direction of the scientific studies which prove that humans can change sex then please? Ta.

Add 'die in a fire' or any other incitement to violence and we're into police territory.

Or 'I'm gonna go fuck up some T*RFs' almost immediately before assaulting a woman in her 60s at Speakers Corner.

People used to use ‘science’ to justify racism and sexism too, you know. It’s shameful that you can’t see how precisely your behaviour replicates the intolerances of the past

I'd like to see the scientific evidence which shows that women can have penises and that human beings can change sex.

Or 'I'm gonna go fuck up some TRFs' almost immediately before assaulting a woman in her 60s at Speakers Corner.*

Indeed.

Concrete threats of violence require police attention, whoever is on the receiving end of that threat. General statements that offend our feelings are not a police matter.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jan/27/prevent-muslim-community-discrimination

A 13-year-old boy being asked if he liked Isis because he said ‘eco-terrorist’ in class is one of many stories prompting criticism of strategy

Ifhat Smith’s son was 13 years old when he was questioned by school officials and asked if he was affiliated to the jihadist group Islamic State.

Smith was shocked when she ultimately realised her child had been questioned under the government’s Prevent strategy – but was left baffled when she discovered the interrogation was triggered by his use of the term “eco-terrorist” in a classroom discussion about environmental activists.

(contd)

Like the child who got a visit after mixing up the expression ‘I live in a terraced house’ with ‘I live in a terrorist house’z

Humberside police have had some trans person in 'teaching them'. One of the enthusiastic morons who exclusively make up the force then obviously decided he needed to try this crap out immediately.

Read his Twitter, if you haven't already. He clearly spends a lot of his time on this topic. He's clearly not horrified, he's too busy loving the attention. One look at his Twitter shows this. I think he owns one of those t shirts as well.

So bloody what?

God. This is crazy.

So sick of this thought police bullshit.

The police cannot respond to burglaries, assault victims etc but have time for hurt feelings? Is it any wonder faith and confidence in police is so low.

The police have become very strange these days. Very strange indeed. What are they supposed to be doing?

They are supposed to be policing the streets and preventing physical damage to people and property. Crime prevention. Not checking Twitter in case someone has hurt feelings.