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Neighbour stole our woodland?

983 replies

TwittleBee · 27/01/2019 07:00

Our DGrandad left me and my sister his woodland when he passed away a few years ago. It isn't anything that special (as in its not protected and hasn't any distinguished species) but does have a TPO on a couple of trees. It is a place that my sister and I visit occasionally and thought that perhaps we could use it as a place to "wild camp" with the kids this summer for a few weekends. Even had insipiration from what George Clark created in a piece of woodland in his series Amazing Spaces and thought maybe one day with enough money we could do the same.

Anyway, we went down there this weekend to have a look to see if we could maybe clear a patch for a good tent destination, Thought it be good to do this now before everything starts flourishing in the spring.

To our shock it's all been fenced off and there has been some very obvious clearing of trees and shrubs! We knocked on the nearest house to ask what's happened to our woodland and the couple that lived there informed us that they have now taken it as their own and have started keeping it in order for past couple months. They said that it now makes our land legally theirs?

Obviously we shall be seeking legal advice but in the meantime, can what they claim actually be correct?

Just seems so unfair? Surely that would mean I could just fence off any land and claim it as my own?

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sollyfromsurrey · 27/01/2019 09:53

What are these people like? I want to picture them!!! Are they weird nerdy people or aggressive angry people or sung self righteous people? Wealthy or poor? How old are they? Some people are just crazy.

SaltedIceCream · 27/01/2019 09:53

Just go and take there fences down. It’s not there’s. End of.

clairedelalune · 27/01/2019 09:54

So, my neighbour went into a home 12 months ago. Her family visit every couple of months and another neighbour, with permission of the family use the drive for a car that would otherwise be on the road. I occasionally cut the grass when i do my own. So we can all claim the house then???? I didn't think so.
Really hope you get this sorted soon

Monny1 · 27/01/2019 09:55

I hope that you get this sorted.

ambereeree · 27/01/2019 09:55

Crikey that's just insane.

WhoKnewBeefStew · 27/01/2019 09:56

AdaMcGrath has good advice. Seek professional legal advice, as you said you would do, and take it from there

I’m honestly bob smacked at the CF of some people

YippeeKayakOtherBuckets · 27/01/2019 09:58

This is amazing. We live next to woodland, I think I might just start claiming I own it.

BuffaloCauliflower · 27/01/2019 10:00

I just want to say how much I love Mumsnet and all the random knowledge it’s members have. I knew nothing about woodland maintenance until today.

OP - go in with the lawyers, they’re clearly cheeky fuckers hoping you won’t know how to fight and will go away.

cupoftea84 · 27/01/2019 10:00

Do you have photos of it without the fence and more teas/ bushes? If so take pictures of what they done and report them to the police for criminal damage. If they say it's a civil issue explain it is not your property had been damaged without your permission. Very simple.
Your probate solicitor should be able to help or direct you to someone more specialised.
I hope it gets sorted- let us know what happens.

Movinghouseatlast · 27/01/2019 10:01

I would start with my own letter first. The gov.org site is brilliant for outlying the law, which you can quote. Give them.7 days to remove the fences. I wouldn't bother asking them.for the trees back, or money, as you will get yourself into a legal wrangle which will be stressful and cost you!

A solicitors letter will be £300 plus so you might as well save this first fee.

Adverse possession is, as others have said, only achieved after 10 years so they don't have a leg to stand on.

If they ignore you or refute what you say then get a solicitor. Unfortunately it will be expensive if they don't give in.

If they have felled a tree with a TPO the tell the council and let them.deal with it.

SaturdayNext · 27/01/2019 10:01

We did tell them we had the deeds to the land but they said that didn't mean anything as they now looked after it and had fenced it?

If that were true, we could all fence off our neighbours' gardens and claim they were ours. It's manifestly nonsense. I hope you're out there taking lots of photos?

CuriousaboutSamphire · 27/01/2019 10:01

Just go and take there fences down. It’s not there’s. End of. No! Don't. The fence does belong to them! You'd ruin any legal goodwill if you did that!

Take AdaMcGrath's advice and let the law take its course. They have no legal rights here!

Calzone · 27/01/2019 10:03

Lots of knowledgeable people on here.

Can’t wait to find out what happens.

pictish · 27/01/2019 10:03

I hope you get this sorted out quickly. It does sound absolutely insane tbh. They’re triers that’s for sure. Go wipe the floor with them!

ragged · 27/01/2019 10:03

Please come back & update us later. x

Heyha · 27/01/2019 10:04

Good on you, stand your ground. They are trying to bluff you into backing down. Definitely find out what you can about TPO, an email to the council's tree person to enquire as to which trees are protected and to explain why you need to know will probably get them a scary knock on the door before your solicitor's letter even arrives (you could do that email today).

What's the betting they have had a wood burner installed and are thinking they are getting a lifetime of free logs by being CF?

Puddingmama2017 · 27/01/2019 10:07

I definitely need to know how this one ends!

feltcarrot · 27/01/2019 10:08

How fab to own your own woodland, OP how big is it and do you live nearby (sheer CF nosiness)?

Aaaahfuck · 27/01/2019 10:08

They probably hoped that if they started looking after it and claiming if for their own they would have a chance at getting rights over the land.

angieloumc · 27/01/2019 10:09

How shocking and totally cheeky of those people! I hope you get it sorted ASAP.

Newtonthehorizon · 27/01/2019 10:10
mogloveseggs · 27/01/2019 10:12
Shock
Maelstrop · 27/01/2019 10:14

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Ha ha, brilliant! 😂

diddl · 27/01/2019 10:14

It looks as though they've been monitoring your visits & jumped in when one was "missed"?

What twats though to do stuff to the land after such a short time. Hope they haven't cut down anything that they shouldn't have, although tempting want them to have to pay for damage caused iyswim.

Hope you get sorted out Op.

ImNotChangingMyUsernameAgain · 27/01/2019 10:14

DO NOT put a gate into 'their' fence. That would be like accepting that the CFs are entitled to have a fence there. You need a solicitors letter which includes sending them a copy of your registered title that states you are the owner of the land, that you have been in possession of the land for the past 8 years for regular use of dog walking etc. The letter should demand the removal of the fence within 14 days after which it will be removed and assert a claim for damages for trespass, removal of trees etc.