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Neighbour stole our woodland?

983 replies

TwittleBee · 27/01/2019 07:00

Our DGrandad left me and my sister his woodland when he passed away a few years ago. It isn't anything that special (as in its not protected and hasn't any distinguished species) but does have a TPO on a couple of trees. It is a place that my sister and I visit occasionally and thought that perhaps we could use it as a place to "wild camp" with the kids this summer for a few weekends. Even had insipiration from what George Clark created in a piece of woodland in his series Amazing Spaces and thought maybe one day with enough money we could do the same.

Anyway, we went down there this weekend to have a look to see if we could maybe clear a patch for a good tent destination, Thought it be good to do this now before everything starts flourishing in the spring.

To our shock it's all been fenced off and there has been some very obvious clearing of trees and shrubs! We knocked on the nearest house to ask what's happened to our woodland and the couple that lived there informed us that they have now taken it as their own and have started keeping it in order for past couple months. They said that it now makes our land legally theirs?

Obviously we shall be seeking legal advice but in the meantime, can what they claim actually be correct?

Just seems so unfair? Surely that would mean I could just fence off any land and claim it as my own?

OP posts:
user789653241 · 27/01/2019 07:37

Yes, I have heard this happened to someone, but not in a short period of time. It was left untouched for years by rightful owners.
I would speak to lawyer asap.

Raindancer411 · 27/01/2019 07:37

If you do go and make access, check with police for advice as the people may try to say criminal damage (although as sure the police won't get involved and say it's a civil issue)

comebacksoonsusan · 27/01/2019 07:40

Lawyer. Cheeky cunts.

Bringbackthestripes · 27/01/2019 07:45

Shock they can’t just claim it as theirs after that short space of time. When you say DGF passed away a few years ago, how long is a few years? Just wondering how many years you have owned it compared to how long they will claim they have looked after it. When did you last visit it and see it was unclaimed by them?
Total CF!

NicoAndTheNiners · 27/01/2019 07:52

We had this happen to us. Local crazy farmer decided to try and pinch a field we owned. Put a shed up on it and I think a fence. SIL went with the quad bike and demolished the fence and shed. Farmer went loopy. She then showed him the deeds proving it was ours and he shut up. No need for a solicitor.

Personally I wouldn't be nice about it and I wouldn't waste money on a solicitor and I would do something (ie, smash the fence down) today. I'd want them to get the message very quickly that you're not to be messed with.

NicoAndTheNiners · 27/01/2019 07:53

Oh and the farmer did try going to the police and accusing sil of criminal damage who were totally uninterested. Grin

billybagpuss · 27/01/2019 07:55

Wow, just wow. Let us know what you decide to do.

Workissueshelp · 27/01/2019 07:56

Omg! Solicitors first thing Monday.

Mylovelies · 27/01/2019 07:58

Cool, you've got the Deeds? End of story. Letter from you or your solicitor, should be the end of it. Bless you tho', super stressy.

Oblomov19 · 27/01/2019 07:59

I think you can attack this 3 ways.
1)Trying to find out for free as much legal side as you can from internet, free advice centre etc.
2)Please speak to the council aswell. ASAP. It never does any harm to have them on your side, alongside any
3)lawyer advice, which let's be honest is always the most expensive option.

ragged · 27/01/2019 07:59

We need a timeline, OP. When did your grand-dad die?

Oblomov19 · 27/01/2019 08:01

And I'd go back ASAP and take some photos, for evidence.

EggysMom · 27/01/2019 08:01

We knocked on the nearest house to ask what's happened to our woodland and the couple that lived there informed us that they have now taken it as their own and have started keeping it in order for past couple months.

Presumably you responded with "Er, no, you can't do that" ? How did you respond to them.

LittleScottieDog · 27/01/2019 08:01

The law as I know it is as others have stated: 10 years and no legal owner coming forward. One of my friends is hoping to claim land next to their house but they've been waiting since they moved in about 7 years ago. If someone comes forward to claim it they'll have to give it up (which would be annoying as theirs is the only house in the vicinity and the land is right next to their house).

These neighbours are complete CFs!

Ifailed · 27/01/2019 08:02

OP, you can camp out on your own land for 28 days in any year.

candlefloozy · 27/01/2019 08:04

Can't you just go back and tell them you have the deeds etc? Didn't you tell them that?

NicolaStart · 27/01/2019 08:04

“If someone comes forward to claim it they'll have to give it up (which would be annoying as theirs is the only house in the vicinity and the land is right next to their house). “

How is it annoying if someone ‘claims’ their own land? Why should they have to claim land that belongs to them?

Princesspeachy0 · 27/01/2019 08:05

This is crazy! Surely they can't think because they've put a fence around your land it's now theirs?!
Confused

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 27/01/2019 08:05

Shop the cunts for cutting trees down.

Purplecatshopaholic · 27/01/2019 08:11

And the CF award goes to.... Lawyer. Sue.

bruffin · 27/01/2019 08:14

If they have touched the TPO then you/they can be fined up to 20k

MiniBreak · 27/01/2019 08:14

Wowsers. To those that seem to know about this... can OP just remove the fence as it's on her land? Is is their fence? Or ok to remove as long as she gives it back to them?

Sounds like one for a solicitor!

Deadbudgie · 27/01/2019 08:16

Go back round today. Tell them to remove the fence today, 2 months of clearing a woodland does not give them possession. Tell them you have the deeds.

Explain that there are protected trees in there so you will be informing the authorities if they have been touched. You will also be getting a valuation of the trees and plants they have removed from your land which you expect to be reimbursed for. Bet the fence is gone by tonight. Get solicitor to send a letter so this is all on record

Yulebealrite · 27/01/2019 08:18

Yes how many years are we talking?

diddl · 27/01/2019 08:18

"How is it annoying if someone ‘claims’ their own land? Why should they have to claim land that belongs to them?"

Ikr!

Is this the first time that you have been to the land since you were left it "a few years ago", Op?