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DH and his Brexit cupboard

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Anymom · 25/01/2019 22:45

Dh has converted two of our kitchen units into his Brexit cupboard! He has filled them up with all sorts of tinned delacacies including different beans, chilli and dogs (hot!)
He's also stockpiled toilet rolls, medicines, cleaning products etc. It's all stashed away in his new Brexit cupboard, that we have been warned not to touch! I darent tell him that the dc have already been in there hunting for chocolate. They were disappointed to find numerous bags of rice and pasta but alas no chocolate. Seems he has got his priorities mixed up! 😁
AIBU to think this is unnecessary and over the top? I need help to convince him as he talking about stockpiling and filling up the freezer and I'm dreading what concoctions I will find in there! All joking aside, it is just Dh panicking isn't it? We don't really need to be stockpiling food in one of the richest countries of the world, do we?

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borntobequiet · 26/01/2019 21:14

Havanananana and how many Olympic swimming pools is that?
Not into football here.

borntobequiet · 26/01/2019 21:15

Hope I got the right number of anas.

Havanananana · 26/01/2019 21:29

and how many Olympic swimming pools is that?

An Olympic swimming pool has a volume of 2,500 cubic metres - so 26 million cubic metres would require 10,400 swimming pools Smile

oldauntsally · 26/01/2019 21:48

Why don't you just eat locally sourced food if Brexit causes shortages?
I already buy milk, cheese, bread, veg and meat from local suppliers - I can quite happily survive without pasta for a while it's no biggie (although I'm sure someone somewhere in GB produces pasta).

I understand people worrying about drug shortages but really the government should be well aware that this is an issue and stockpiling themselves if they think there is going to be problem, it's not like they didn't know it was coming!!

bellinisurge · 26/01/2019 21:50

With what shall people buy this, dear @oldauntsally , dear @oldauntsally ?
Ever heard of austerity?

snowball28 · 26/01/2019 21:51

I’ve been thinking about making a brexit cupboard, thought it was silly at first but I think I probably will stock up on a few bits now!

borntobequiet · 26/01/2019 21:57

That’s a lot of swimming pools!
And an awful lot of local farm shops.
Just had a thought - maybe if the Government co-opted all the local drug dealers they could sort out medications. Those people are very efficient and enterprising. For example, County Lines organisations. Make a phone call and a 12 year old who is fed up with school delivers your insulin/blood pressure medication/nit lotion. Win win for everyone and social cohesion to boot.

cloudtree · 26/01/2019 21:58

Why don't you just eat locally sourced food if Brexit causes shortages?
I already buy milk, cheese, bread, veg and meat from local suppliers - I can quite happily survive without pasta for a while it's no biggie

The ignorance is fucking hilarious.

cloudtree · 26/01/2019 21:58

Or it would be if it wasn't so scary

Buteo · 26/01/2019 21:59

Why don't you just eat locally sourced food if Brexit causes shortages

Because the end of March is the hungry gap - very limited UK veg at this time.

I can quite happily survive without pasta for a while

You can make your own pasta as long as you have eggs and flour.

WaxMyBalls · 26/01/2019 22:00

Google the hungry gap. Late March and April isn't the ideal time to be subsisting on British produce, and I say this as a lover of rhubarb.

cloudtree · 26/01/2019 22:01

and also because if everyone is suddenly wanting that locally produced food it will sell out very quickly.

Havanananana · 26/01/2019 22:03

Why don't you just eat locally sourced food if Brexit causes shortages?

Because locally produced food only represents less than half the food needed to feed the UK population. This has been the case for over 200 years. Currently the UK imports approx. half of what is consumed - mostly either directly from the EU or via EU ports such as Rotterdam.

If only 13% of the cross-Channel traffic can get through after a No Deal Brexit, this means that approx. 40% of food on UK shelves stops arriving - both finished products and ingredients for 'UK' foods.

Brexit also coincides rather badly with the food break - the period between the end of the winter crops and the beginning of the summer crops - a time when the UK has to import up to 80% of fresh fruit and vegetables. Even when the UK crops become ready for harvesting, it is not certain that there will be sufficient workers to pick, process and pack the food if the seasonal workers from the EU accept the Brexiters' invitation to bugger off back to where they came from.

WaxMyBalls · 26/01/2019 22:06

Speaking of drugs, you can't really stockpile much insulin as it doesn't last very long, and we haven't started producing our own in time. Reassuring.

WickedGoodDoge · 26/01/2019 22:10

I just remembered that I have at least half a dozen tins of pumpkin (panic online buying pre-Thanksgiving when Sainsbury’s temporarily stopped stocking it) and about 20 frozen bananas (from when DH went through a phase of wanting bananas in the house and then not eating them). I can add lots of pumpkin and banana bread to my apocalypse baking!

I am clearly a natural preppier. Grin

Ta1kinPeace · 26/01/2019 22:10

oldauntsally
If you think you can eat all from UK suppliers during the hungry gap go for it

I shall set aside reserves

oldauntsally · 26/01/2019 22:11

@bellinisurge that already (allegedly) happened in 2007 and I'm pretty sure I was still able to purchase a pot noodle and toilet roll from my local spar!
Britain is perfectly capable of running without being in the EU, it is just being made as difficult as possible because MOST politicians are a bunch of greedy bastards trying to protect their over inflated pensions and dodgy business dealings!

Havanananana · 26/01/2019 22:12

Just had a thought - maybe if the Government co-opted all the local drug dealers they could sort out medications. Those people are very efficient and enterprising. For example, County Lines organisations. Make a phone call and a 12 year old who is fed up with school delivers your insulin/blood pressure medication/nit lotion.

You have just inadvertently described almost exactly how the Black Market worked during WW2. With most of the men otherwise engaged, the organised crime gangs used their established networks to dodge the call-up, source the contraband (usually through theft) and distribute the goods. Private Walker in Dads Army is a comic character, but the spivs were highly organised and resorted to theft and violence.

I would imagine that the current underworld characters are already rubbing their hands at the prospect of rich pickings post Brexit.

TheElementsSong · 26/01/2019 22:13

^^

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Graphista · 26/01/2019 22:13

Doradoo - interested to know what country you're in.

"Most people in Britain is used to society functioning as it has for the last 70 years" to be honest we've had periods of shortages even in my lifetime (46) even my memory so it seems more a case of having forgotten - as I said upthread just last year the weather caused major issues certainly in much of rural Scotland which seems to have been quickly forgotten.

I've just been talking to dd about it and she was a bit Confused and was asking why I was planning this - during our conversation it occurred to me apart from last year (which admittedly shook her a little) she's too young to remember even the petrol shortages of (to me) a few years ago.

I remember the flour & sugar shortages (my dad only drinks tea and has 4 spoons a cuppa - this was a source of real concern in our house), just been googling for articles to share with dd and reminded the 3 day week was due to energy conservation too so I'm now wondering if that will be something that may happen again.

She was shocked when I said about army have been assigned stockpiling duties and are on standby for any unrest. It was her reaction led me to realise she has no memory of anything like this (and hopefully won't) there'd been a few brawls locally last year in the supermarkets when the stocks started coming back in again, customers arguing among themselves or with staff as there was "rationing" policies in place and some customers were trying to buy eg 12 loaves - I said "that was a short term situation that people knew wouldn't last, imagine if we've weeks of shortages and no end in sight! People will start to panic" she 'got it' then.

"When I was growing up we had a chest freezer and the meat would be bought for a few months at a time" yep my parents did this too. They'd both grown up VERY poor (I mean kids missing meals, shoes falling apart poor) and understandably did what they could to guard against low food supplies. They'd order a whole cow or lamb and have the butcher sort it for them (apparently this was cheaper than buying even at bejam), they'd also buy sacks of veg (potatoes, carrots etc) at farm shops and dad would grow stuff too (though this is the worst time of year for this - another way this govts fucked up! Shitty timing!), he'd also fish and on at least one occasion we even had rabbit (which I suspect was poached). He's also quite knowledgable on foraging, which mushrooms,berries are safe etc he taught us but I don't remember it well enough to risk it with certain things.

I haven't discussed it with her but dds bffs mum & dad are outdoorsy, camping types and I've noticed on their FB feed they've been doing little things like teaching their younger ones fishing and foraging recently and I'm wondering if it's related at least partly to brexit.

"Oddly also, I seem to have missed the floods of enthusiastic pledges to NOT prepare" funny that eh. I've noticed all but one of the leavers (a relative very stubborn, still giving it "brexit means brexit" and "no deal fine by me" - yet I suspect will be one of the most vocal complainants if SHTF!) on my FB feed have gone VERY quiet on the subject in recent weeks and I've even noticed a few comments re concerns about meds.

Wow! I'm forever throwing eggs out (we go through phases of loving them & then go off them - meal fatigue?) are they defo safe to freeze? And how do you defrost safely?

"Lets just eat the politicians." Just another way JRM is useless! No meat on them bones!

"My DDs' dad thinks there'll be no noticeable difference to anything after brexit but then he always was an idiot." Oh my, that just made me thing of my ex! He's ret'd army - but recently enough he could well be called back up if they decide to do so if needed to deal with civil unrest. Not that he'd be much use he's a spineless git who'll happily let others fight his battles for him. 5 kids in that household and if anyone's prepping in that household I'm willing to bet it won't be him. His parents are older than mine they were wartime kids so well remember rationing, their kitchen is always very well stocked and they do a lot similar to mine re sacks of potatoes etc

"All is completely normal and well, as we said in 1939." Yep sep 1939 when I suspect the ancestors of the "there's no need for prepping" people were also convinced "it'll all blow over by Christmas"... 15 years later rationing ended!

"DH’s business is providing what could be seen as a ‘luxury’, so I can see our family income plummeting rapidly after March." Yep. Think that's true for a lot of luxury business sadly. I've noticed very little on how takeaways, restaurants & cafes will be affected. One of the few industries still doing ok where I live and I can see this leading to a lot of those businesses collapsing.

"Why don't you just eat locally sourced food if Brexit causes shortages?"

Sigh - I think mn needs a brexit faq!

The U.K. does not produce anywhere near enough for us to be self sufficient on this little island. Add in last years weather fluctuations and we've actually LESS than usual! In addition it's more expensive. I'm on benefits I'd love to but organic local produce or even just local but it's WAY out of my price range. Even many families with 2 full time workers are only just about surviving now!

This govt MAYBE could have supported our farmers to increase our production at least slightly IF they'd got their arses (and brains) in gear 2 years ago - but they didn't!

"(although I'm sure someone somewhere in GB produces pasta)." Even if they do - where they gonna get the flour? There's only 2 small farmers that grow the right wheat for this because it doesn't grow well in our climate.

That time of year in our climate is NOT a harvest period! That's why even hundreds of years ago people would preserve foods - to get them through the times when they weren't available to harvest.

It's really NOT just one food type its EVERYTHING.

"but really the government should be well aware that this is an issue and stockpiling themselves if they think there is going to be problem" it's only in about the last 3-4 months to my knowledge that they've even bothered to check with the experts what the situation is! What drugs affected etc. Piss poor planning galore. Actually little to no planning!

Ta1kinPeace · 26/01/2019 22:14

Britain is perfectly capable of running without being in the EU
Really?
What makes you think that what worked 45 years ago will magically work now?

bellinisurge · 26/01/2019 22:14

So @oldauntsally , there are no foodbanks, no poverty, in fact no reason why people can't afford to buy locally produced goods starting March 29 2019. There is no "hungry gap" - google it - all food producers are set up to meet the local demand right now?
Are you even in the UK?

captainjackandjill · 26/01/2019 22:15

Outside opinion here as not from UK. I say Well Done to all the stock pilers! Being prepared is always the best way forward. I am a bit astonished at those who don't have any stores. Regardless of Brexit, it is always intelligent to have supplies as there are stories everyday about natural disasters etc and people being caught unaware.

One thing I didn't see on anyone's list (apologies if I missed it) is water. Now maybe it''s not an issue in the UK, but where I'm from it is first on the list. And if you can't store water make sure you buy the tablets to make non-potable water drinkable or have a bottle of unopened bleach to add to the water. Check the internet for instructions. Remember even if you don't drink water (prefer wineGrin) you will need it to cook rice, beans etc (or even brush teeth).

Also noticed some wanting to freeze garlic. I was going to do this but was told it can become toxic. Please don't take my word for it, but google to check.

Best of luck to you allFlowers

HolySwearingCuss · 26/01/2019 22:17

How do people think farmers actually produce food? Is it just Good Old Blighty spirit and a few shovels while the farmers wife makes a big pot of tea and lashings of ginger beer for visitors?

Or does anyone else think they might need tiny little things including equipment, fertilisers, chemicals, seeds, employees, abattoirs, and above all money to run it all?

Once the chain that routinely supplies everything all is gone, and the grants that funded them are gone, and they don't have anyone to pick the food, or any legal hygienic way of killing the animals, do you really think's just going to magically work overnight somehow?

EVERYTHING is embedded into the EU. It's possible to detach yes, but to do it without massive disruption will take decades.

For fuck's sake, especially if you have kids and can afford it, buy some long-life food and stash it in a few boxes. You'll eat it anyway won't you?

Girliefriendlikesflowers · 26/01/2019 22:17

I've started stocking up on extra tins, cereals, flour, sugar, pasta and rice.

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