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AIBU?

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My friend says I'm selfish ...aibu?

94 replies

hallierr · 22/01/2019 22:49

So my friend is getting her hair done tomorrow and we've agreed to go out afterwards.
I agreed to go to the hairdressers with her and wait but I've just remembered I need to go to the doctors.
I live near the salon (10 min walk ) and she said she would drive to mine and leave her car and walk to the salon as she's scared driving into town.
She's asked me will I walk her into town and walk back up and meet her when she's done.
I said would it not be easier to just drive into town.
She's refused and expects me to walk her there and back.
Aibu to not?
I even suggested il get her a Uber on my account and pay.
Just tomorrow is so busy.

OP posts:
Mummadeeze · 23/01/2019 06:58

My friend needs glasses but wouldn’t wear them so used to ask to meet me places so we could walk together. If it was inconvenient I would say no and give her very detailed instructions of how to make the walk herself. She always managed. Your friend is too dependent, you need to be firm with her. You are not selfish at all.

WizardOfToss · 23/01/2019 07:03

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FinallyHere · 23/01/2019 07:04

Dear goodness, i find it boring enough at the hairdressers, did you really offer to wait for her there for two hours? Honestly? Why would you do that, its a bit of an ask.

CherryPavlova · 23/01/2019 07:07

This is so funny it can’t be true, can it?
An adult books an appointment in a hairdressers she doesn’t know where it is?
She wants someone to babysit her in the hairdressers?
She can drive, but not into town?
Really?

pilates · 23/01/2019 07:07

YANBU but your friend is. Not sure how she gets by with that sort of attitude. Time for her to grow up and deal with her issues.

Thecabbageassasin · 23/01/2019 07:08

I know a few women that are like this. It’s like they’ve never evolved beyond their teenage years and want you to accompany them everywhere to the toilet, the shops, the hairdressers etc..
I honestly don’t know how they function forever stuck with a 15 year olds reasoning, but there’s no way I’d enable it by sitting in a hairdressers like a muppet for 2 hours, or walk them into town.
Just tell her there’s been a change of plan tell her she’s fine to park outside your and give her directions, turn your phone off and take yourself off somewhere nice instead and don’t ever agree to do anything like this again,

Devilishpyjamas · 23/01/2019 07:16

Anxiety making her controlling.

Not your job to be her anxiety crutch. I would say no but also tell her (kindly) that if she really can’t manage to walk down the street alone for ten minutes then she needs to work out how she is going to tackle the anxiety (whether by herself or with professional help) before it takes more of her life.

If she is really worried about parking I would just say get a bus but it doesn’t sound as if she would cope with that either.

NotANotMan · 23/01/2019 07:19

Not everything is a mental health condition. Being nervous about doing stuff isn't anxiety. Always expecting other people to facilitate you is usually just selfish and lazy, not mentally unwell behaviour.

gamerwidow · 23/01/2019 07:24

Not everything is a mental health condition
No but in this case it probably is. I have been that friend and normal things have held that fear for me tooI have been angry with my DH for not ‘helping me’ even though I was being unreasonable and he WAS helping me by saying no. Her friend isn’t an awful person but the OP is right to say enough is enough.

woolduvet · 23/01/2019 07:34

Be out (or pretend to) when she turns up and don't go and collect her.

eggsandwich · 23/01/2019 07:39

Why doesn’t she go to a hairdressers close to where she lives and where she’s confident with the route to get there, it seems madness that at 33 years old she needs to be walked to and from the hairdressers like a parent walking there 5 year old to school.

Tell her she’s being ridiculous!

Janedoughnut · 23/01/2019 09:30

Well unless the hairdresser is in downtown Beirut she’s being fucking ridiculous.

Grin
wizzler · 25/01/2019 07:40

An update would be grand.
Did you stand your ground?
How was her hair do?

Apologies to everyone who thought this post might be an update from op

hallierr · 25/01/2019 08:48

Sorry for late update
I ended up walking her back but she managed to get there herself after I showed her exactly where she needed to be.
It wasn't in Beirut ha ha

OP posts:
SalemtheBIackCat · 27/01/2019 09:51

Did you talk to her about getting some help?

garethsouthgatesmrs · 30/01/2019 00:08

I ended up walking her back but she managed to get there herself after I showed her exactly where she needed to be.

so she made her way there but still expected to be collected? How did you show her exactly where she needed to go without taking her there? Did you talk to her about her anxiety and how she needs to think about addressing it? Did she apologise for calling you selfish?

sorry lots of questions!

Graphista · 30/01/2019 01:27

Wow! The compassion on this thread 🤔 the lack of consideration for or even understanding of mental illness has another mn hit!

"This sounds like anxiety to me!" Yep me too!

"Nope no anxiety but hates being on her own in places not familiar to her." To be quite honest it sounds like she DOES have anxiety and possibly agoraphobia.

I'm currently housebound by my agoraphobia, but people think that's the only way it manifests. It actually isn't necessarily 'never going anywhere' but only going to 'safe' places. Places that are familiar, easy to get to and unlikely to have anything that might trigger other anxieties.

I've also known people with agoraphobia who needed accompanying to certain places/at certain times as the way theirs manifested.

She needs to speak to her GP about her anxieties as they ARE impacting her life and she needs help.

NOT saying it's acceptable BUT lashing out angrily can be a symptom of anxiety too.

She's thought she's got herself organised so she can get there and back with the limitations she's placed on herself. She's thought she's got support to go somewhere new (which may be quite an achievement for her) and now at short notice her plans have gone awry.

Sadeyedlady - given your own difficulties I find it shocking you have no understanding or compassion for someone experiencing similar.

"Sounds like she's agoraphobic to some degree. The worst thing you can do is pander to it, so no you're not being selfish." As you can see I agree re the agoraphobia, but I don't see supporting someone with an ILLNESS as pandering. It actually sounds like op's friend IS trying to go to new places but probably hasn't got professional help which it sounds like she does need.

When I've been in better phases friends & family have gone places with me WHILE I worked to improve things. Sometimes it would be a case of they'd meet me somewhere familiar (but still anxiety inducing to go to) and then going on somewhere less familiar.

There's a middle ground between "pandering" and "abandoning"

It's not op's responsibility but as this is a friend I assume she cares about her and doesn't want to cause her distress. So the caring thing to do is say "this is affecting your life too much you need to get professional help. In the meantime I'll do what I CAN to help you. But unfortunately I can't do tomorrow and I'm sorry I forgot about the appointment but I need to go"

But I agree you don't want her ending up like me! So best to nip it in the bud ASAP by her getting help.

Like many mental illnesses it's a sneaky fucker and creeps up on you! I didn't decide "oh I won't leave the house for the next year" I had incidents happen that made me more and more anxious about leaving, there were fewer and fewer 'safe' places, I was avoiding going out on certain days to avoid triggers and...next thing I knew I hadn't left in 2 weeks!

It's a bit more complicated for me but part of the problem is I've had a lot of trouble with meds and not yet found any that help and the anxiety is quite extreme. Plus I have asthma and panic attacks can become asthma attacks for me, plus I have mobility problems so don't feel completely physically safe in eg icy conditions and have had a couple of nasty falls (both of which of course make me even more nervous).

The hairdressers I go to (when I'm able) is an "old lady" hairdressers so a calm atmosphere, no men, no loud music and a lovely hairdresser who has a very calming manner (some of her clients have Alzheimer's or have had strokes etc and this can be the only thing they do outside the house at this point. She's very good at calming and reassuring them. I'm sure it's no coincidence that her son has asd with some anxieties of his own, that's probably why she's so good at calming people).

Although I also like her because she's not scissor happy and knows how to deal with my awkward hair (redhead, but with a natural wave I hate but very fine)

"Not everything is a mental health condition. Being nervous about doing stuff isn't anxiety. Always expecting other people to facilitate you is usually just selfish and lazy, not mentally unwell behaviour." I'd LOVE to know your medical qualifications?

"Why doesn’t she go to a hairdressers close to where she lives and where she’s confident with the route to get there" she was motivated by a special offer and maybe she is (clumsily without the right support) TRYING not to completely give in to her fears by going to somewhere new.

ForrestPlumppp · 30/01/2019 01:33

It's odd that so many women are scared of driving on motorways/town centres etc. I can understand it but it's something you don't often see with men (maybe too scared of being seen as 'wimpy').

gamerwidow · 30/01/2019 15:01

Men do have the same fears but they talk about them less. My FIL has never learnt to drive because he hates being in cars.

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