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“It is time to oppose the Franco-German axis with an Italian-Polish axis“

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RandomlyChosenName · 22/01/2019 17:08

AIBU to find this whole story, but particularly this line disturbing?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46908205

Basically, France and Germany have signed a new treaty for closer cooperation between their countries. Economic co-operation and military co-operation are included.

This has upset some others in Europe who don’t want France and Germany to have all the power. And led to the disturbing quote above from Italy’s (right wing) interior minister.

Interestingly the story also includes a quote from Angela Merkel:
“Mrs Merkel also said Germany wants to "make our contribution to the emergence of a European army."”

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chillpizza · 22/01/2019 17:11

What do people expect. It’s been what they always wanted every normal person saw it coming.

scaryteacher · 22/01/2019 17:12

Guess why some of us voted leave?

RandomlyChosenName · 22/01/2019 17:27

The EU Army part? Or the whole opposing axis thing that sounds like the beginning of world war 1 did? It feels like there are two issues here.

I understood before that “Europe” wanted closer and closer integration, and I understood Germany and France were the dominant players- obviously, they are the biggest countries. But I didn’t realise that they were going to form a club within a club and upset other members so much that they would start talking of axis.

I don’t think feel like this treaty or the bad feeling it has caused is as a result of Brexit either. It seems it would have happened anyway.

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WhentheRabbitsWentWild · 22/01/2019 17:29

What is wrong with it ?

Why should Germany and France alone be able to do this but you don't think Poland and Italy should be allowed ??Why is that ?

RandomlyChosenName · 22/01/2019 17:33

I don’t think anyone should be forming axis within Europe. Isn’t the idea that all the countries are equal and share equally in treaties so they all benefit?

I find both the Germany-France axis and the idea of a Poland-Italy axis scary.

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RandomlyChosenName · 22/01/2019 17:34

And the talk of the axis being opposing axis is terrifying surely?!

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badlydrawnperson · 22/01/2019 17:35

Isn’t the idea that all the countries are equal and share equally in treaties so they all benefit?
This is so funny.

WhentheRabbitsWentWild · 22/01/2019 17:37

Yes OP that is the idea but I don't think they put it into practice an awful lot , personally.

User758172 · 22/01/2019 17:40

Not surprising really.

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