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It's 2019. WHY are men still doing this?!

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GunpowderGelatine · 17/01/2019 20:51

My colleague today was emailing a man working for a charity about a draft policy that we're forming for the organisation. To avoid outing, I'll be purposefully vague - it's a policy about an issue that affects only women and he was a number of people asked in a professional capacity to review it and feed back.

He replied to my colleague, not about the policy, it was never even mentioned, but to say "I like your picture". She was confused, and replied to say sorry there should not have been a picture attached just a draft policy, and mentioned something else work related that she forgot to mention earlier.

This bloke (in his 60s) then replied with a picture taken from my colleagues Facebook profile from ten years ago, dressed up in a "sexy nurse" type costume for a hen do. He must have looked for her on Facebook and trawled her profile pictures to find it. He said in this email "well this is interesting" followed by a winky face.

She's disengaged and lodged a formal complaint but he's well liked and established so who knows if anything will happen.

When is this kind of behaviour going to stop? After #metoo how can men possibly think this is OK? What kind of response do they expect? I'm furious for my colleague, no one should have to put up with this shit.

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JasperKarat · 18/01/2019 06:47

I don't think you can judge 'men' on the actions of one creepy, sexually inappropriate, misogynist. He is unreasonable YABU to generalise

Pachyderm1 · 18/01/2019 07:10

That is so gross and unprofessional, what a creep. I hope your colleague’s complaint is taken seriously.

randomchap · 18/01/2019 07:47

That's spectacularly creepy. It's also massively stupid. Sexual harassment via email, with easily provable evidence. I hope the organisation takes the complaint seriously. It's not like he can say that it didn't happen.

cushioncuddle · 18/01/2019 08:17

Very wrong of him to do that and very odd that he thought that was ok !!! She was so right to report it and I hope they deal with him appropriately rather than ignoring it.

Even though it is spectacularly wrong of him to do that if you have an open social media account it means you are happy for people to look at it.

She really needs to sort her fb settings out and I have no idea why you would want your private life on show to the world.

KatherinaMinola · 18/01/2019 09:19

I don't think you can judge 'men' on the actions of one creepy, sexually inappropriate, misogynist. He is unreasonable YABU to generalise

If only it was just one, eh?

BeanTownNancy · 18/01/2019 09:26

There are creepy and weird people about. He did this because he is a weirdo. So I would not have the pictures public

This sounds concerningly like "some people are rapists so women shouldn't go out alone/wear sexy clothes/drink" kind of "advice".

Meangirls36 · 18/01/2019 09:58

Creepy fucker! Like what? Does his wife know? That wouldnt be appropriate ever. Its called creeping and to do and then show her that he's done it is amazing. Is he in a position of power over her?

userschmoozer · 18/01/2019 10:06

A damning report on Oxfam has just been released (on top of all the other reports about sexual misconduct in charities) so his timing is spectacular.
Did he not get the memo to at least pretend to not be a creep?

www.theguardian.com/global-development/2019/jan/17/oxfam-failed-to-address-sexual-misconduct-and-bullying-finds-review

toddlepod · 18/01/2019 10:07

Political Biscuit: How do you know what he meant it to be?

It's at best unprofessional. At worst, it's sexual harrassment. She's being treated as a willy tickler.

The scroty git picked out a titillating pic and comment on it with a cryptic 'well, this is interesting' comment and winky emoji on business email.

What she does/did and posted to FB, is up to her, obviously. Point is, it's her personal social media not a business account.

He's crossed the line.

Racecardriver · 18/01/2019 10:09

Well he’s doing it because he’s old isn’t he? In ten years time the stragglers of his generation will all be retired and his younger counterparts will find more subtle ways to be inappropriate.

toddlepod · 18/01/2019 10:23

Years ago, when I lived in UK, I worked for a Quango (long gone).

My manager (male) used to lean over us (all female team) to ostensibly look at our computer screens and rest his hand on our backs but get a side- feel.

I and another girl, reported him to the director (female, for what it's worth) who said he was retiring soon and she thought it best to let him retire with dignity.

Another married manager was shagging an admin in his team, using the shower room on a different floor to have his liaisons. He was off for a while and asked a girl on his team to go into his email and action something. I was mates with her and she showed me some very inappropriate emails like him and admin girl booking a day's holiday and her asking him whether she should wear knickers or go commando...

He would make sleazy comments about what clothes you were wearing, looking good today, that top shows off your curves... you know the kind of thing... ugh. He was incredibly popular despite being pretty incompetent and fairly stupid. I never reported him. Just didn't feel it would be taken seriously.

Gah. Don't get me started on men in that kind of sexist work environment. Sure they're still around today.

Sounds like auld scroty thinks he's Young Mr Grace working in 'Are you being served?'

BitOutOfPractice · 18/01/2019 10:28

Profile pictures on FB are automatically set to "public" unless you specifically change it every time. So even if you have everything locked down, your profile pictures can still be public without you realising.

It catches lots of people out

Not that makes any difference. She should be able to post what the fuck she likes without some creepy man commenting on it.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 18/01/2019 19:12

he works for a womens charity

wow fuck report report report

and while yes it's a good idea to have social media locked down,

she has done nothing wrong at all

and he really seriously has

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