What would YOU do if YOUR child had been making theretning phone calls?

[kimi]

I would go bloody mad but alas not the pond scum parents of the little shit that has been bullying my DS.

BIT OF HISTORY.......
DS1 is 11 very bright but has tourettes, for the past 4 yes 4 years one of the children in his class has been picking on him and the school seem unable/unwilling to do anything about it.
He has beaten my child up,held him under the water at a swimming class, takes the p* out of him, stops other children playing with him, tells lies about him and is just an out and out evil little shit, he has hit my younger child, been abusive to my several times in and out of the school playground, and has no respect for adults at all.
His parents were friends of ours, but when this all started the mother took the oh no "not my darling child he would not do that (despite by her own admittance being thrown out of 3 yes 3 pre schools).
The father (on the occasion my DS hit him back ) cane round our house shouting and swearing and kicking the door, he has also come to the school play ground with his half brother and threatened to "have me done over" as i am a lying, ck sucking fg w**e, (key stage one learnt such lovely words from him that day). It got to the point I have had to call the police 4 times .

ANYWAY..... Wednesday evening DS1 gets a abusive and threatening phone call, we do 1471 and this "child" answers the phone, so I tell him we are reporting him to the police again and I do.
The next day I take DS2 to school DS1 does not want to go, and this "child" stands 3 feet from me telling a class mate "Mrs Kimi can't do nuffin, my dad cut up the sim card and said let her proove it son" I know this will be true as the dad is a thug with a record and thinks his son is a hard man like him, and the mother is so far in denile it is unreal. Anyway at lunch time DS2 see's this "child" messing with his scooter ( the scooter DS2 wanted for weeks and did jobs round the house for to get the pocket money to bye himself and was proud of ) and tells him to leave it alone, only to be pushed over and told to f* off, come home time DS2s scooter is nowhere to be found .

This "child" has also phoned 2 of DS1s friends and left threatening messages on their answer phone pretending to be DS1.

I spoke to a friend of mine today who works at the child mental health unit at great ormond street and they seem to think this "child" needs help ( I agree) but when the parents are encouraging it what the hell can you do, I mean we were offered mediation from the school and they told the school to f* off aint nuffin wrong wif our kid"

And before you all say I should not call the "child" a evil little shit and hold such contempt for him, meet my child, and walk a mile in his shoes.

Sorry this is a long and angry rant but I am fit to burst with rage, what I want to know s if your child did this would you cut up the sim card and pat them on the head with a well done? Or is this really pond scum parenting at its best?

Keep a log of everything that is happenign and go to police, solicitor, restraining order

And I hope to God my child never has to experience this or be the perpetrator but I know that if I caught her doing something like this then her life would not be worth living

Oh Kimi I really feel for you and your ds. I feel quite upset reading your thread.

That boys behaviour is disgraceful and the parents are scum.

Have the police done anything at all?

Honestly? I would probably get him in a corner and threaten to cut his genitals off if he went near my ds again and then I would tell him that there is no point in telling anyone because no one would believe that I would say such a thing to a child.
Vile and horrible I know but you would be doing the little fecker a favour in the long run as he will eventually come up against some one not as nice as you.

Police cautioned the father and his half brother last year over the play ground thing, and the child last September after he attacked my son in the school playground and We spent the day at the hospital.
It was a bit better till my son won a commendation least week (so did another little chap at the school) and got £50 worth of book tokens (64,000 children entered so the head tells me, so DS1 did bloody well) that seems to have been the caterlist for this latest outburst. This "child" is 10 years old by the way, what is he going to be like at 17?

Oh, kimi, that is terrible. Is the school really not prepared to take action?

disgusting.

The parents are plainly going to do nothing. The child is not going to be stopped by them.

The school should act. But will they? IME most are totally ineffectual, as they have been stripped of any and all power! The police generally do nothing until the long suffering victim finally snaps and then they get into trouble while the thug becomes the victim.

But tbh, I would just move schools. I really would. I know people say why should I be the one to move etc etc, and I can see why they say that, but I would just shift and be done. I've known enough kids like that to know they don't stop. It's just not worth it.

Go to the police - I did about a text that my dd2 received and they sent an officer to the school!

a take it u have obviously told the school. Tell them if they are claiming to be not aware of this to talk to the dinner ladies too as sometimes they see more at lunch time than the teachers see in school time. this is unneceptable....ur poor kids. Emphasise talk to the school. ur obviously not mad and u need to protect ur kids....they should not have to go through that, my heart goes out to u.

Well there are only 3 weeks of term left and I have told DS1 wont make him go, then they will be going to different high schools (on knees thanking god) but he still lives near us so I don't think we can never see him again.

I am trying so hard not to but I hate him, and its the sort of hate that eats at you right deep down in your gut, and that is not healthy I know, also pity him as he is obviously sick in the head and needs help.
DS1 wanted to kill himself over this and I took him to CAMHs who were wonderful, the other parents do nothing to help their child.

God I'm so upset, I'm close to bloody tears again.

Really really if this were my life, I would do everything I possibly could to move away from the area. I know it shouldn't be you having to do anything because you are not in the wrong here but life is shit sometimes and I would want to do anything I possibly could to make my dcs lives better.

I would probably lie about why we were moving but I would move.

My heart goes out to you and your family and I hope the little shit leaves you alone.

Moving is not an option I'm afraid,

Kimi hugs I feel your pain I was bullied at school, and now I am okay....

Kids are more resliant (sp) than we give them credit for If they are going to separate senior schools and only have 3 weeks left I wouldn't worry too much.

The behaviour by the parents is disgraceful and sadly all too common we have kids around here that are pure brats through and through and the parents don't care god i was too scared to do half the stuff the kids do these days [shocked]....

at the end of the day 3 weeks is no time at all enjoy the three weeks with your DS and help make him forget...although you live locally he might not see the other kid for a while.

best wishes

hugs

Did wonder if I called social services they might be able to get the parents to do something to help the "child"

Do it you have nothing to loose especially if you do it anon they should still do it

I know I might be over reacting but 8 children and young people have been killed in the last few days by other children and young people.
If this boy is unbalanced and his parents do not do anything to help, (as I said we knew the family well and were friends so have seen how they work as a family, and dad hitting mum and yelling, teaching the kids that to get respect you need to be feared and be a hard man is the norm, and tbh once I saw how the dynamic worked within the family I felt uneasy with then but always made the boy welcome in our home, ok we are not the partridge family but I like to think we treat each other and others with respect, try to teach our children right from wrong and that education is important.) But if this boy is taught that violence commands respect what is to stop him picking up a knife? He told the head he is a gansta, ffs I feel like screaming YOU ARE 10 YEARS OLD you have the chance to be anything you want to be and you want to be a f hard man. Grow up, and by god I would love to slap the father silly as he is damaging his son.

Please report these parents its scary how kids can react to parents the family sound like they need serious help

You know what I am not crying because I am upset any more am crying because I am so bloody angry

aw kimi, poor you and ds, ring social sevices, anon if you have to, why the hell should you have to put up with this!

I have watched my DS1 lose all his school friends, as no one at school will risk the roth of this other child.
I have re- placed endless items that have gone missing form DS1s school bag, P.E. kits and even coats, I have dryed DS2s tears when this child hit him (Although I must admit my DS2 who is 6 did retaliate, only for the school head to ring me and say it was not on for DS2 to bite, and I had to agree on that one but none the less did point out that if the boy had not punched DS2 then DS2 would have not have acted as he did).
I really really wish this bloody child would drop off the face of the earth, and I am ashamed at myself for feeling this much hate for a child.

How u handle this as a mum is amazing without crashing into dispaire...You are a great mum and you are strong and you can lead your kids to succeed, have faith in youself whatever this other supposed to be famaily throw at you....Talk to the school, If they are not supporting you then talk to the governers. Are the family known as a problem? If not talk to other parents, if these children are bullying your children are they bullying others?. If they are then try to talk to other parents, if not record what the other kids are doing and give the evidence to the police if that is okay. however, If U have done all of this are u in the position to move, u need to talk to ur kids, u live it so I dont. where abouts roughly do u live?

Don't be ashamed with yourself for feeling that way.

This boy sounds so, so evil. Ringing SS might well be the best thing to do, I agree with your fears over the knife and things. I would be worried too.

Why are the school not intervening?

I would call the police regarding the phonecall as that is illegal. If nothing else, you'd like to hope that a visit from the police might scare either the boy, or his parents, but I wouldn't be too sure by the sounds of it.

I feel so sad for your poor DS

I am sending hugs to your boy, and praying that this never happens to my son.

I would just like to thank every one for taking the time to post, and for not jumping on me for being hostile towards this boy.

I love my children and they are such precious gifts and I want them to be happy and do well in life, as most parents do.
I do not want to see DS1 be ashamed of the fact he is (according to the school) an exceptionally bright child, I do not want to see him be treated badly because sometimes he tic's, I do not want to see him want to hurt himself to get away from the pain that this other child has caused him.

I pray for my children to be safe and to be happy and to give and receive respect and love from those around them, I pray for the knowledge I will need to be a good parent and to teach them and guide them and help them become the men they are meant to be, and I pray for the strength to be able to let the go out in to the world and make their mark.
I strive to give them root's to know who they are and where they came from and when the time comes wings and let them fly.
And for the life of me I can not understand why ANY parent would try to raise a child full of hate, and teach them to inflict pain on another human, to command respect through fear, WHY would you want to fuck up your own child, when you have the chance to help that child be someone who can make a difference.
Why would you give that child so little self respect that he or she feels the only way they can feel good about them self is to bring pain to someone else's life.

I am at a loss, I truly am.
All I can do is try to teach my children to be the best they can be, to treat everyone with the same respect, as equals, no matter who they are where they come from, what ever god they kneel to, what ever colour they are and weather they have 50p in their pocket or 500,000,000 in the bank.

Thank you for taking the time to read my post and to offer advice.

Kimi, you are the mother I strive to be, your last post is so moving.