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To be surprised that some friends are buying extra food because of Brexit?

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abacucat · 07/01/2019 11:53

I suspect that specific foods may get be in short supply for a short period of time, but there will still be plenty of food in the shops. It is not going to be Armageddon. So this seemed an over reaction to me. Or am I going to be that person in the disaster movie who is laughing saying everyone is over reacting, who ends up dead when the disaster finally hits?

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springtimeyet · 13/01/2019 23:56

I am living in the states at present and I wouldn't wish the food standard quality that is here on the UK.
The information given is poor and there are additives that are not allowed in the EU. It is also worth noting that food is much more expensive in the US, particularly ingredients than it is in the UK. Which is not something that I expected when I moved here.
So the UK would have worse food and pay more for it.

PookieDo · 14/01/2019 00:19

I was reading that the levels of meat related food poisoning were something like 70x higher in the US than the U.K. per year. I don’t understand why the regulations are so bad! What is anyone gaining from it being so awful

springtimeyet · 14/01/2019 00:48

The gain is higher profits.

Buteo · 14/01/2019 07:32

The US objects to country of origin food labelling, so it depends how far over Liam Fox is going to bend when it comes to as US-UK trade deal.

Juells · 14/01/2019 08:31

I sincerely hope that supermarkets put a little EU flag on products that have had EU food standards applied in future

People have been whipped up into such a frenzy of hatred for the EU that that would probably impact on sales negatively. :(

Troels · 14/01/2019 09:01

The US objects to country of origin food labelling, so it depends how far over Liam Fox is going to bend when it comes to as US-UK trade deal.
I lived 30 years in California and all the food had country of origin written on. The fruit and veg had it next to the price. We knew which tomotoes came from Mexico and which were local, cucumbers were often Canadian and a lot of winter produce came from South America.

GummyGoddess · 14/01/2019 09:17

Troels that's for sales within the country though, not exported out.

ohreallyohreallyoh · 14/01/2019 09:37

People have been whipped up into such a frenzy of hatred for the EU that that would probably impact on sales negatively

Depends what side you're on, surely. 48% of those who voted against Brexit would surely not have an issue with this? In fact, I think many of us would welcome it.

Buteo · 14/01/2019 10:09

Troels Country Of Origin Labelling doesn’t apply to beef and pork in the US.

The big winners in the repeal of COOL are the multinational meat companies. This has allowed them to shop for meat in the cheapest markets in the world, and bring it into the best market in the world, and sell it to consumers as 'Product of the USA,' even though the animal had never drawn a single breath of air in the United States.

www.ecowatch.com/country-of-origin-labeling-meat-2572003641.html

In the UK, chlorine washed meat wouldn’t have be declared because it counts as processing and as such doesn’t require labelling.

Clavinova · 14/01/2019 11:12

The French tried to feed us horsemeat only 5 years ago.

I've spent 6 weeks holidaying in the US with no food poisoning and 2 weeks in Spain - food poisoning twice.

Most food poisoning in the UK goes unreported.

bellinisurge · 14/01/2019 11:15

What's your point?

Clavinova · 14/01/2019 11:22

Oct 2018:
Millions of chickens could soon be sold across the EU without being individually inspected for contamination or signs of disease after being killed, in a move some experts believe will put consumers at increased risk of food poisoning bugs

Campylobacter is Europe’s biggest cause of food poisoning, with up to 9 million cases estimated to occur annually, although most are not reported Rates of the disease – which can prove fatal – are known to be rising, with high levels found in chicken meat^

www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/12/eu-plan-to-reduce-checks-on-chickens-will-increase-food-poisoning-risk

Buteo · 14/01/2019 11:26

The French tried to feed us horsemeat only 5 years ago.

First prosecutions were of a Danish meat supplier and his UK rep for deliberately committing fraud by mislabelling and mixing horse meat in with beef.

Other sources were a Dutch meat supplier and a Polish company. Not sure the French were involved though.

And it was deliberate fraud, rather than trying to fudge accurate labelling within the law.

Clavinova · 14/01/2019 11:35

What's your point?

Preparations bellinisurge - you can add Imodium and rehydration drinks to your list. I see that you've already stocked up on face masks and 'fish' antibiotics for yourself.

bellinisurge · 14/01/2019 11:50

Thanks for spending your valuable time to research my prepper posts. Hope you found it useful @Clavinova .
I'm utterly upfront about being a prepper and utterly clear in all my posts about prepping for Brexit that you don't have to be a prepper to make sensible preparations for Brexit.
I have made very clear that I don't think there will be power or water problems as a result of Brexit but there will be good supply problems with No Deal.
What helpful things have you done @Clavinova ? Because I can't even arsed to trawl through your previous posts.

bellinisurge · 14/01/2019 11:53

Again, what is your point? How does dodgy meat from whatever source mean that we should No Deal?

Clavinova · 14/01/2019 11:57

Thanks for spending your valuable time to research my prepper posts

Actually, I clicked on the 'ask me anything, I'm a prepper' thread only to discover that the op was you!

Because I can't even arsed to trawl through your previous posts
You very obviously jumped in as soon as I posted - I often don't notice your posts for hours/days.

Clavinova · 14/01/2019 12:00

How does dodgy meat from whatever source mean that we should No Deal?

It doesn't - but did you read the posts leading up to mine - or did you just read my post?

Buteo · 14/01/2019 12:18

Certainly the supply chain went in and out of France

It was a French company, but via a Luxembourg factory, Spanish trader, Cypriot trader and originally through the dodgy Dutch meat trader who bought meat from Romania. The Romanians said it was correctly labelled when it left them. I don't think the physical meat went through France.

bellinisurge · 14/01/2019 12:24

Well, @Clavinova if your position is, meat production can be dodgy and untrustworthy, no argument from me.
I did my AMA yonks ago and didn't know it had been reactivated by a question. I had a look for it recently when someone asked me about it and I couldn't find a link to it.

bellinisurge · 14/01/2019 12:28

Nope, @Clavinova Still can't find the AMA I did yonks ago. I suppose you must have gone digging for it after allHmm

Buteo · 14/01/2019 12:30

I've spent 6 weeks holidaying in the US with no food poisoning and 2 weeks in Spain - food poisoning twice.

I love a good anecdote. I've lived in the US and in Europe. I've only once had full on food poisoning once, and that was in York. I don't think that proves anything though.

Clavinova · 14/01/2019 12:32

bellinisurge
If you did look through my posts, you'll see that I've actually posted, "I'm not advocating a no-deal Brexit - but we are where we are" or something similar. However, there's too much scaremongering on here - some of it created by anxious people like you and some of it falsely concocted under another agenda.

I googled 'prepping' and the mumsnet cookies brought up the AMA thread.

Clavinova · 14/01/2019 12:33

I googled 'prepping' I meant 'prepper'.