To be surprised that some friends are buying extra food because of Brexit?

[abacucat]

I suspect that specific foods may get be in short supply for a short period of time, but there will still be plenty of food in the shops. It is not going to be Armageddon. So this seemed an over reaction to me. Or am I going to be that person in the disaster movie who is laughing saying everyone is over reacting, who ends up dead when the disaster finally hits?

Cross posted with post about Ireland.

I'm in Scotland and know about / have been looking at information about supplies here.

If people think it will be a land of kindness and collaboration then I think they are crazily naive. Supermarkets have had to call the police out before because people were physically fighting over products in the reduced section. And that's with a shop full of full priced food to fall back on.

It only takes a few people to start something before others join in.

Had my first real life conversation today where they said it will all be fine as Britain makes enough gold for Britain and 80% if kut fokd is from Britain. Didn’t want to argue about the maths not adding up on that one!
My Ocado delivery for next week has already lost a few tinned things I don’t normally buy, damn you MN!

@Bellinisurge What is a good protein source that doesn’t require fridge/freezer? Or is it just tuna/spam/corned beef and quinoa? I know the ideal solution would be to have some chickens in a garden!

For non-fridge/freezer protein, I have lentils; soy mince; tinned jackfruit; tofu. Basically I have a few vegetarian and vegan cook books and I've looked for protein heavy recipes in those.
I love nuts so adding those isn't a challenge for me.

As a prepper strategy, I imported a pressure canner from the US. I have various meat dishes done in that. But that's a prepper type thing and not really a low-key prepping kind of thing which is a better approach if it's just Brexit you are prepping for.

@WellBHoise the ones you mentioned but also dried beans are a good protein source with a long shelf life

I use tinned pulses (beans, chickpeas, lentils) quite frequently, to bulk out things like stews, chilli, shepherd's pie, etc.

In all honesty I don’t think anyone is going to die of starvation because of Brexit. Does anyone really believe that could happen?

*The only scenario I can come up with, it that everyone THINKS we will have a shortage so they all rush out and fill their tanks up.

Otherwise fuel supply is not compromised at all by Brexit.*

I agree that panic buying is likely to cause shortages.

But as for fuel supply not being compromised, what qualifies you to say that? The UKPIA (association of UK petroleum refiners) seems to think that there is a risk of supply chain disruption.

No @Dongdingdong , but a reduced choice in diet is still pretty rubbish. saying "well we're not starving " is not really a success, is it?

In all honesty I don’t think anyone is going to die of starvation because of Brexit.

Careful, that sounds like bloodcurdling hysteria

@bellinisurge I also have a pressure canner, I love it, done my whoopsy fish in it, still nervous about eating it even though it's all fine, done right and looks fine, etc. Silly I know. I have already have experience pickling and making jams, dehydrating etc and never had a problem with the food safety. But was the same when I started doing those types. Pickled eggs is another good protein option as they keep ages and can also dehydrate eggs if you have dehydrator which would be fine for scrambled egg or baking.

Does anyone really believe that could happen?

At the margin? Yes, sure. People are already dying prematurely due to not being able to access food and other basic goods, because of benefit cuts and sanctions, mental and physical illness, disability, homelessness, etc. Anything that makes food and fuel more expensive or more scarce, or increases the number of people exposed to the benefits system, will increase death rates.

You can have an argument about whether those deaths would be "caused" be brexit, but I think it is almost inevitable that a chaotic Brexit would increase premature mortality.

Ooo @wildchild554 , I have a dehydrator [THIS ISN'T ABOUT ESSENTIAL BREXIT GEAR - DON'T FREAK OUT]. I'll give eggs a go. I gave some powdered eggs but diy sounds cool.

@bellinisurge it's more the fact it's so much cheaper to make your own.

It will be very difficult to prove causation in the short term Dongdingdong. Do I think we're going to have children starving to death outside Morrisons, like the little match girl, because the country has run short on pesto? No, seems unlikely.

Have health and social welfare cuts over the last decade led to 120,000 extra deaths at a national population level? Yes, they have, according to peer-reviewed reserch published in the BMJ.

Would food price increases, caused by the imposition of WTO tariffs, and decreased supply, compound this existing issue by pushing people already in poverty over the edge? That seems like a reasonable hypothesis.

However, it will take 7-8 years for population level statistics to prove or disprove it.

I believe you have to be incredibly careful dehydrating eggs due to the salmonella risk. Probably not worth the risk.

That's on my mind a bit cloudtree.

I freeze mine. Safer than dehydrating them IMO.

The only reason supermarkets won't have much stock is because of all the cranks stocking up like it's the end of the world. Ffs some people need to calm down

The only reason supermarkets won't have much stock is because of all the cranks who think a no deal Brexit is a good idea.

The only reason supermarkets won't have much stock is because of all the cranks stocking up like it's the end of the world. Ffs some people need to calm down

Steady, the zombie apocalypse preppers on this thread will go berserk.

Completely agree with you.

Oh Jesus, it’s possible to be opposed to Brexit and maintain some common sense.

I don’t think that my house is going to burn down. I’ve lived in houses for 45 years and I’ve never been in one that has burned down. I know lots of people and I don’t know any of them that have had houses burn down either.

I still get house insurance just in case. It would be foolish not to given that I can afford it and the potential consequences of not doing it could be seriously detrimental to my family.

Please identify a zombie apocalypse prepper on this thread.

You see this is how it's going to go if the government don't sort their arses out:

We crash out with no deal. Our ports grind to a halt. Imported food can't get through. We get shortages, especially of fresh food. Brexiters blame the shortage on those of us who foresaw this and prepared in advance.