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Local authority restricting bungalows on age basis

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SimplySteve · 07/01/2019 02:08

I've considered that my local authority restricting bungalows to over 55s (regardless if they have any disabilities etc, age is the sole eligibility criteria) is ageism? Being restricted from one when we are both carrying serious disability is shocking, even have support from GP, social worker, medical specialist nurse. We fall numerous times a week in current property too. This is discriminatory surely?

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user1471464702 · 07/01/2019 17:53

glitter nails fab response and totally agree and has rightly happened near me too- there are some who use pip or dla as collateral for a mortgage as income and not means tested, so this could be an option , but you might work too so could consider a range of things - maybe approach a ha? and get the mon your case this works 9 times out of 10 too

user1471464702 · 07/01/2019 17:53

mp not mon lol

SimplySteve · 07/01/2019 18:27

Not been on the thread for a few hours.

Anyway, I spoke to my MPs secretary who declared the process extremely discriminatory, shocking, and they have made exceptions for disabled people in the past.

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Secretsquirrelisfedup · 07/01/2019 18:33

That sounds like there might be a ray of hope for you @SimplySteve I really hope you have a home that is suitable for you soon. Good luck.

whatsthepointthen · 07/01/2019 20:02

Good luck hopefully they get something sorted.

ClaireElizabethBeauchampFraser · 07/01/2019 23:51

Good, at least someone who can be a voice for you is recognising the discrimination you have faced. Hopefully your local MP can intervene with your local council on your behalf!

You have been very restrained on this thread Steve, posters declaring because they know disabled people that you are unreasonable and should be grateful for what you get honestly made my blood boil.

I would say ‘walk a mile in your or your partners shoes’ but I know that’s offensive being a full time wheelchair user myself! Live a week with your disabilities is more pc.

Definitely still contact your local advocacy charity. I cannot speak highly enough of the advocates that my husband and I had to help us navigate social services and occupational therapy!

User758172 · 07/01/2019 23:52

You have been very restrained on this thread Steve

Hmm
emzw12 · 08/01/2019 00:06

Have you considered looking for privately rented flats or bungalows instead of the HA list and using your benefits to pay the rent / claim housing benefit? My friend has done this and worked out wonderfully for her.

Dothehappydance · 08/01/2019 07:49

All the best, I hope you manage to get sorted.

bellabasset · 08/01/2019 19:28

At least with your MP querying the housing policy you have a chance of getting suitable accommodation. Those who are suggesting you seek private accommodation don't understand that it may be considerably more expensive, and if the owner decided to sell you can he evicted.

northumberlandgal · 08/01/2019 20:47

OP that's great that you've been in touch with your MP. Just a word of warning though; I've worked in housing and I've had phone calls / correspondence from councillors and MP's challenging decisions. Unfortunately they often didn't understand the statutory responsibilities that the LA had and that the decisions made were made for sound and legal reasons.

SimplySteve · 09/01/2019 00:35

Thanks for posts :)

Thanks @northumberlandgal . I understand that, we simply feel our case isn't being considered on a safe and sound basis, something echoed by both MP sec, and local councillors' sec who I spoke to Tuesday.

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ashtrayheart · 09/01/2019 00:47

My xh became disabled in his 40s after a brain haemorrhage and had very poor mobility. At the time he lived in a privately rented flat with one flight of stairs. He was constantly refused housing in suitable accommodation because of his age. On one particularly bad fall, the paramedics couldn’t get him out by the stairs and the fire crew ended up winching him out of a window that they removed.
The council found him a bungalow quite quickly after that Wink
Take it further and good luck.

redandyellowandpinkandgreen99 · 09/01/2019 00:54

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SimplySteve · 09/01/2019 00:57

Yes, sure @redandyellowandpinkandgreen99 . RTFT where I detail bidding on gffs, the disibilatory issues surrounding access to a wheelchair user and a blind person, and you apparently have an omniscient view of all LA/HA in my area. Do you want to take up my offer of a train ride to my area where I, and DP, will provide you a list of their properties in the area, and provide you a personal, driven, tour? No...funny that.

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SimplySteve · 09/01/2019 01:03

To the poster who called me restrained. Yes, I feel I have to be really. Although the views being expressed are the same as we have encountered in our journey to get rehoused, so hardly surprising. As I said previously, in another detailed scenario, I'm 100% sure this would be detailed as discriminatory (restriction on age grounds - legal items such as cigarettes/alcohol, gambling, sex shops excluded obviously).

No wonder we have a country where disabled people are dying on a weekly basis. Oh, and the general attitude absolutely boils my piss. Have to make sure I can get to the loo without falling down the stairs, steps, and in time, mind. And without pissing myself in my journey.

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HelenaDove · 09/01/2019 01:09

"I don't see the problem with a ground floor flat. MOST of them have good access for disabled"

BULLSHIT i had a housing manager sit in my living room in December 2017 and admit they had NO accessible housing.

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HelenaDove · 09/01/2019 01:10

and my DH is 70 next year......2020

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HelenaDove · 09/01/2019 01:19

its not me with the mobility problems Its my DH You arent really bothered about that though are you. You arent bothered about over 55s with disabilities (otherwise you wouldnt have goaded me about DH who does fall into that group) You are just using them to goad the OP.

Happens on housing threads ALL THE TIME.

SimplySteve · 09/01/2019 01:21

And I will bite. Could people please explain how they envisage parking 250 metres+ from a property (won't include wheelchair retrieval as needed everywhere regardless), a blind person navigating a sight-restricted person (don't worry I'm ok'ed to drive by both the eye senior consultant surgeon and dvla as condition doesn't occur during such) to property. Gff complexes have short corridors in pretty much all situations we've checked available for bidding, so avoiding banging/scraping arms/hands. Unlit too. Navigating a heavy door, when one is arthritic, and one has muscle weakness. Traversing to said gff, entering. Without steps. Then add steps and, in some cases longer distances and uphill/downhill climbs, to the bargain, as this is the usual case.

You really have no fucking clue. How dare you tell me what it's like being in our situation when you have never experienced it, or the subtleties we suffer on a daily basis. Being in a wheelchair, being unable to pick up a can from the supermarket shelf, unable to walk more than a handle of steps without crippling pain. Pissing yourself because you cannot get to the loo in time, in public. Being so blind you cannot distinguish something 250cm away. Crippling pain in all joints at all times.

I'm awake this past three days and nights, all night, due to excruciating pain that oxycodone, tramadol, pregablin, diclofenac, paracetamol do not touch (I'm under pain control clinic thanks who can offer no solution), amongst drugs for other things. And this is by far a regular thing and just one of a myriad of conditions.

Yet many of you have the sheer audacity to tell me that we'd simply prefer a bungalow . Who the actual fuck do you guys, and there are many of you, think you are? Walk, ha ha, a mile in our shoes, we will hand over our disabilities with glee and absolutely joy. Being able to actually walk a few steps with no pain. To eat a banana without dropping it due to muscle weakness. Honestly, you have no clue, I'd borderline call many of you disability apologists and no doubt supportive of Esther McVey. Honestly.

Think I lost it @ClaireElizabethBeauchampFraser and don't apologise for this post. Our life problems encompass our entire lives, someone most don't understand one iota.

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SimplySteve · 09/01/2019 01:25

I've reported the pp to MNHQ btw, so they can check it out.

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SimplySteve · 09/01/2019 01:28

Yeah @redandyellowandpinkandgreen99 , including the flat we bid on, were offered, which was then offer removed by relevant HA as "not suitable on disability grounds". One of FOUR that have gone this way.

If you can get train to Manchester Airport would gladly collect you from there.

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