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Local authority restricting bungalows on age basis

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SimplySteve · 07/01/2019 02:08

I've considered that my local authority restricting bungalows to over 55s (regardless if they have any disabilities etc, age is the sole eligibility criteria) is ageism? Being restricted from one when we are both carrying serious disability is shocking, even have support from GP, social worker, medical specialist nurse. We fall numerous times a week in current property too. This is discriminatory surely?

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SimplySteve · 10/01/2019 00:43

Just so you know, I'm talking to MNHQ regarding the deletion of my account. The vitriol thrown my way this past few days, a lot by the same posters across threads, is just too much. I love this board and been here many years but enough is enough. That said, my fight with this shall very much continue.

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HelenaDove · 10/01/2019 01:07

@SimplySteve I sometimes get it from certain posters too especially when i post about social housing issues. But there are a lot of very supportive posters here too. Please dont let it get to you.

I cant remember who said it now but if youve got "em rattled you are doing something right Smile

User758172 · 10/01/2019 01:16

Which is essentially what you are saying is ok for this couple.... It’s a house right? Who cares if you can’t access parts of it

I never said anything of the sort.

OwlBeThere · 10/01/2019 03:54

@MrsAriadneOliver, not in those words, but you did after being told repeatedly that there are not any GFFs suitable, and that the OP had accepted a flat to be turned down on a disability basis then say ‘. A gff isn’t your ideal, but it’s better to be realistic, and surely that’s better then living somewhere with stairs to fall down? I don’t think many people can say their homes are ideal, but we have to do the best we can with what we have‘
So OP needs to be ‘realistic’ and live in s house that they are unable to use the bathroom in, or can’t access at all. You’re being ridiculous and like a dog with a bone that OP ‘must’ have a suitable flat in his area. If that was the case, he’d be living in it.

SimplySteve · 10/01/2019 04:43

Thank you @HelenaDove and @OwlBeThere . I'm just so drained with all of it.

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Dothehappydance · 10/01/2019 07:14

I am presuming that there isn't only warden controlled bungalows available, so I am not sure why pp are using these as a reason that the op isn't eligible for any type of bungalow.

At no point have they said that this is all that is available, just at present they are excluded from all bungalows

Hedgehog80 · 10/01/2019 07:20

YANBU OP at all
Bungalows should be prioritised on NEED not age...... why should there be a situation where a fit and healthy 55/60 year old who could cope with a few steps on a gff gets a bungalow that somebody disabled REALLY needed???? Ludicrous
Why as well should social housing tenants put up with/be grateful for sub standard conditions or unsuitable properties ? Wouldn’t say that to a private tenant ?

youaremyrain · 10/01/2019 08:13

It does sound discriminatory. My only thought is that the bungalows were built specifically for over 55s which could have been a planning constraint and could now be a restrictive covenant regarding occupancy of the bungalows. Maybe there's some legislation which needs challenging and a local disability rights group could help?

Augusta2012 · 10/01/2019 08:33

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toomuchtooold · 10/01/2019 10:26

Christ I don't know why you've been getting such a kicking on this thread - seems like some people are just determined to have a rant about the subject without actually reading any of your posts. Of course it is reasonable that the council should allow you to include suitable bungalows in the list of homes you're allowed to bid for, it's a total red herring to say "why wouldn't you take a suitable GFF" you didn't say you wouldn't, you said you can't find one. Someone upthread came out with the old chestnut "if they break the rules for you they have to break them for everyone" - yes, it would be entirely appropriate that they open up bidding on bungalows to anyone with a disability that results in them needing step free access to their home. "There's a housing crisis" - yep, and that's a good reason not to reserve certain types of housing on age basis only. My mother and my in-laws are all in their late 70s and none of them have any bother with steps, this automatic age=infirmity idea went out with the Ark, surely?

OwlBeThere · 10/01/2019 11:00

Well said toomuchtooold
steve try not to let the idiocy of some posters get to you. Concentrate on those who are supportive and I wish you good luck!

Grimbles · 10/01/2019 13:14

I'm another that doesnt understand why some people are being so vile to the op. They have every right to react to the bullshit assumptions and I'm alright Jack attitudes being displayed by some on here.

ClaireElizabethBeauchampFraser · 10/01/2019 16:33

That was actually a great argument for why gff are NOT suitable for disabled people/ users of mobility scooters/ powered wheelchairs. Surely bungalows are much more appropriate, then we are only risking our own lives by having the equivalent of our legs in our own home.

Thank you Mumsnet for removing such an inflammatory post though, as a reclined power chair user myself, I found it incredibly triggering!

HelenaDove · 10/01/2019 20:40

DH HAS a shed to store it in AFTER i kicked off on social media. The #BarneBartonFire was post Grenfell Luckily no one was killed but it was caused by little would be arsonists who kept getting into the building and starting fires. Tenants had been complaining for over TWO YEARS about the broken main door which is how they kept getting in Last Sept their arson attempt was successful.

In our case there is now a JERRY CAN being stored under the communal stairs which belongs to the tenant underneath. Been there since October. HA know about it but no tort notice has been issued.

All the things mentioned in this post ALL THE SAME HA

Are they really concerned about fires or are they making a show of being concerned by using cheap tokenism.

Dimsumlosesum · 10/01/2019 20:41

Don't get why you're posting this yet again.same answers as last time.

HelenaDove · 10/01/2019 20:47

The thread "To ask what the social classes are" is an interesting read considering todays development on this thread.

HelenaDove · 10/01/2019 20:50

old thread with more detailed info about the whys and the wherefores.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3095770-to-worry-that-the-Grenfell-Tower-fire-is-now-being-used-as-an-excuse-to-bully-disabled-tenants?pg=1

Mammylamb · 10/01/2019 21:51

Steve. Hope you are ok. And I hope you find a suitable home soon x

HelenaDove · 26/01/2019 02:22

@SimplySteve

Interesting twitter thread on this very subject.

twitter.com/fromsarahlex/status/1088422551896891392

SimplySteve · 26/01/2019 09:14

Sorry not been around. A&E resus isn’t a place I wanted to be...

Thanks for fighting the corner @helenadove.

We’ve been offered a flat, which it looks like we will grudgingly accept, the health issues in current home (falls, unable to wash due to bath) are just escalating.

However, once I feel better in a few days I will continue to fight this, whether I benefit is immaterial, it’s thousands of people who are being denied access to suitable properties for bullshit reasons, with LA/HA refusing to make “reasonable adjustments” - stipulated in the Equality Act.

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User758172 · 26/01/2019 09:23

We’ve been offered a flat, which it looks like we will grudgingly accept

Why grudgingly? Is it not an improvement, or a step in the right direction?

SimplySteve · 26/01/2019 12:39

It's very close to a college and supermarket in the city, and I'm just being unreasonable as I like living rurally!

Just some small anxieties - parking, neighbours, settling in, etc etc, the usual niggles, nothing serious.

Haven't seen inside yet.

However my main anxiety is both myself and DP have chronic severe disabling conditions and the local docs to the new place doesn't look great. Going to talk to practice manager about being able to stay registered with them, it's about a mile outside their catchment.

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HelenaDove · 26/01/2019 16:57

Im glad to hear you have been offered somewhere @SimplySteve

be handy to be near a supermarket.

HelenaDove · 26/01/2019 16:59

sorry to hear you have been in A&E

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