To think buying a £52 eyeshadow pallet for 9 year old is just madness?

[pineapplepenthouse]

I'm talking about the James Charles pallet. £52 for eyeshadow and blusher. My DD9 wants to spend her Christmas money on it but I have said a firm NO! A lot of her friends got it for Christmas (I know this is true as have seen their mothers show it off on Facebook). Each to their own and all that but £52! AIBU?

I don't subscribe to the concept of letting children buy cheap makeup. It's much better to have a few good quality products, than lots of cheap junk.

Whilst I'm a big fan of makeup and have a bit of an addition to palettes, there's not a lot of point in buying them for her if she doesn't know how to apply it correctly or have any of the other tools she needs. The money would be better spent getting her started on a good basic set of products that she can learn to apply properly.

OP, you could consider what my mother did for me when I showed an interest in makeup about that age. She booked me in for a professional makeup session where I was taught how to apply it correctly and they showed me the best colours for me, then we purchased a small selection of good quality products to use.

Just to add, when I say good quality, I don't mean expensive necessarily. I just mean to avoid the dollar store style makeup palettes and products as not only can they be rubbish quality, they could also not to tested to be safe.

As others have mentioned, Revolution do some great products. Their twelve days of Christmas box is pretty good and would give her a few good palettes and products to use www.revolutionbeauty.com/en/Revolution-12-Days-of-Christmas-2018/m-6823.aspx and is reduced to 25.50 right now.

9 year olds don't wear make up in our house.

I'm amazed so many people think it's ok. I am easy going, allow piercings and hair dye etc in the early teens if they want, but make up at NINE?!?

No way.

@SprusselBrout totally agree! If she's watching James Charles she's most likely watching JS too- who is funny as fuck and awesome, but also talks about orgies constantly + swears in every other sentence! Definitely not suitable for a 9 year old.

@pineapplepenthouse Do you filter what your daughter watches on YouTube? Does she watch unsupervised?

Is this the palette?

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Orgys/orgies lmao I don't know what the plural spelling is 😅😂

@ClaireElizabethBeauchampFraser yep but that ones 100% a fake copy of it.

Morphe is cheap made in China crap. You may as well buy makeup revolution for 1/4 of the price

Well considering the op’s Dd is 9, then I would get her the copy! Or the revolution or technic palette’s.

My dd is 9 and more into Harry Potter atm but I bought her a cheap palette for a few pounds off amazon and some mermaid brushes and she was made up! She would have no idea if the palette was fake or not.

My dd gets to wear make up when she is playing with her friends but isn’t allowed out of the house with it on.

This is worth a read about Morphe
http://wakeupformakeup.com/beauty-brands-wont-see/

I wouldn’t let a 9 year old ‘wear’ makeup like an adult wears make up, but I’d let her use it kind of like an advanced face paint. The way girls are using it at the moment is more like ‘face art’ than make up.

So if that’s why she wants it I’d let her have it,but I on the understanding it’s for ‘playing with’ at home/friends, NOT for wearing all the time and it gets cleaned off properly afterwards.

I would show her what else she could get for her money, but if this palette is what they’re all playing with then I’d let her get it. A pack of playing cards is much cheaper than a computer game, but it’s not the same thing.

A colourful palette is just that, it’s not actually the super highway to hell.

Her money and a short sharp lesson akin to pissing it up against a wall in her teens . Think of it as a mistake to be made lol

My 9yo isn't having any make up at all bar a tinted lip balm.

It's a no fucking way from me too. I hate the "boo hoo, nothing sadder than being the only one to miss out" posts. Way to teach your kids to be materialistic little sheep. OP I'd point out to your daughter that the ingredients in these kits cost pennies and she'd be paying a massive premium for branding, which is a mug's game. And then I'd say no anyway, you're NINE YEARS OLD.

9 years olds do not need to be encouraged to wear markup IMO.

As for the “everyone else has it” argument; I wouldn’t sign up to that either. My child is not a sheep setting out to follow others. That would teach her not to be an individual but to copy people

I had a kids' make up set at about 7. It was only for mucking around with or putting glitter all over my face. I didn't 'properly' try makeup until I was about 13, decided foundation was awful, used concealer for my many spots and blotches and sometimes mascara. In my room I'd be fascinated by how the optical illusions of make up looks could subtly change how your face looks but never properly wore make up till I was about 15/16.

I'm pretty sure at the end of the day most of our make up is made in China and costs a few pence to make. The mark up on make up is HUGE, whatever the retail price.

I'm highly cynical that quality would make a difference to a 9 year old. They're just not going to be good enough at applying it.

I'm also pretty sure that the game "but ALL my friends have it" has been played since the beginning of time. and that the mums who are humblebragging about their 9 year old children getting expensive make up for christmas are not ones to copy

Oh dear me. I thought of JonBenet Ramsey too.

I'd be worried about the company she keeps, bluntly.

Get her a "make your own lipgloss" kit, at least that has a bit of educational value to it.

This isn’t aimed at the OP, who thankfully seems sane and a good parent.

Stop normalising 9 year olds wearing makeup, even to parties or for “playing”! It’s not good parenting, it’s not caring for your child and wanting what’s best for them. And get your kids off YouTube and start actually being a parent. These toxic individuals on YouTube are who your kids are looking to as role models. Look at the most current research on the damage the internet is doing to children and stop using it as a babysitter ffs. I despair at the parenting that’s going on today and these poor kids who are now mini adults from an increasingly young age. And I’m only 34 so not old fashioned by any stretch.

Stop trying to be your kid’s “best friend”, stop worrying about what other (shit) parents allow their kids to do and act in your child’s best interests.

Take her to boots at the moment they have 50% off their Christmas sets, she'd get a nice make-up set for a lot less. A branded one as well, I'd never let DD spend that sort off money on mark up she's only 11 and won't wear it much.

This type of expenditure, unless the child is earmarked to be a high court judge is what is resulting in a debt crisis in women.
The habit of careful saving, even when you are wealthy is an important life skill.
Otherwise kids get to age 20 feeling entitled and disappointed they cannot afford a 52 face palette.

I really don’t get this ‘it’s her money, she should be able to spend it how she wants’. Dniece at that age has a room full of plastic tat, bought with birthday and Christmas money after she’d seen it advertised on tv. Cost a fortune, never played with or broke within days. Whatever happened to teaching dc to budget, save, recognise value etc, set them up with good money habits for the future, build savings.

It doesn’t mean they can’t have a bit of a splurge every now and again, but £50+ on eyeshadow for a 9 year old- really? God I feel old

And this is why children should not have unfettered access to YouTube, it is a pit of dreadful consumerism that encourages children to have unrealistic expectations as to what they 'should' have. Letting little girls watch these horrible influencers who make themselves look like cheap sex dolls with expensive and extensive makeup collections and encourage children to do the same is neglectful parenting, their views of themselves will be so skewed as they grow up. I'd hold firm in saying no to the makeup, and stop letting her watch these manipulative creeps on YouTube. Enrol her in some extra curricular activities so she can broaden her friendship group, a load of makeup obsessed mini adults is not going to lead her down a good path.

I've stopped DD even occasionally watching peppa pig on my phone as it inevitably switches to these unboxing videos for toys, these people don't make these videos for fun, they are making a hell of a lot of money through relying on the pester power of children.

Well considering the op’s Dd is 9, then I would get her the copy! Or the revolution or technic palette’s.

Apparently some of the copies found on eBay/cheap markets etc have been found to have rat faeces in.

Honestly, just get a makeup revolution palette. I have the MUR dupes of Modern Renaissance, Subculture and Chocolate Bar and whilst the quality probably isn't quite the same, the colours are pretty much spot on and they are like 4 quid!