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AIBU?

To be angry & upset that DH didn’t want me to go to hospital?

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ThisWayDown · 26/12/2018 13:04

I’m in South Africa for a holiday with DH and DC. No family here but a friend. Today at the beach the waves were strong. I got knocked over by one and my knee gave way with a loud snap. I tore my anterior cruciatr ligament (ACL) 15 years ago when someone skied into me and had a reconstruction - it tore again some years later and I needed another. The way the knee sounded and hurt and not being able to stand on it made me really worry that I’d torn my ACL again.

DH helped me stand up and hobble over to our towels on the shore. He then said “we’re not going to A&E”. He was being slightly lighthearted but also totally serious. He said that’s because we went to A&E our last holiday due to a hand fracture I turned out to have.

We took the kids to get some dinner before heading back to our rented flat. As we went home on the bus, my knee became increasingly painful and in my view was swollen. DH said “oh shit” when I told him I was in pain and seemed angry. He said he was upset that I may have injured myself. He was caring but when I said I wanted to go to A&E he seemed to shut down, which he often does. He thought it was in my “best interests” not to but to get back to the apartment and rest and decide tomorrow, as it was “highly likely” that I wouldn’t need treatment and that the hospital wouldn’t be able to do anything. And the kids needed to get home. He thought I was being unreasonable going.

He’s not a doctor. I was angry that he’d - yet again - put what he thought should happen above what I did. He thought I should wait to the morning. When we got off the bus I told him to take the children home and I would call my friend to take me there. She didn’t answer. I said I’d take a cab. He said he wasn’t leaving me but he didn’t want to take the children to the hospital as that wasn’t in their best interests, so it was “an impossible situation”. He wanted me not to go. I said I was in considerable pain and I strongly suspected it was torn, and that I couldn’t believe he wanted to override that. We had a huge argument at the bus stop, in front of our kids SadBlush They wanted to come to the hospital. Eventually we all went in a cab.

The triage nurse sent me to wait to see a doctor. My family stayed with me for a while but I sent them home so the kids could go to bed. My friend eventually called but had been drinking so couldn’t drive over to see me.

My DH said again while here innA&E that he hadn’t wanted to go to A&E as we went on the last holiday. I said I didn’t realise there was a quota, regardless of whether someone needed treatment or not Hmm I am so upset that he wanted me to delay hospital treatment to the next morning or, better yet, not seek any. I am so livid and heartbroken by his irrationality, callousness and rigidity (again) that I put my friend and not him as my emergency contact and told DH I’d let the kids know how I was getting on but not him.

I strongly suspect he is on the autistic - one of our children is - and so does our ASD child’s psychologist and the couples therapisf we used to see. He agrees that he has traits sometimes but when pressed will deny he has it and refuse to seek a diagnosis or accept that some of his thinking and actions are, er, different and frankly come across as selfish and uncaring. He says he was worried about me, just felt it was much better for me if I slept on it and decided on A&E in the morning. I said that wasn’t his decision to make.

We’ve had a lovely holiday so far but I am so down with him not respecting my opinion and thinking it’s aporopriate to think he knows best. I’ve been waiting for hours to see a doctor and, apart from my children who have been so sweet and caring, I feel utterly alone. AIBU to think he’s BU?

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RandomMess · 26/12/2018 13:35

YANBU

His reason for you not going is because you went last holiday...

Not because
-it may be better in the morning after resting

  • he didn't want you on your own
  • he thinks you are a drama queen and it's not that painful.



Yep there is no logic or compassion/empathy in his thought process.

Hope you get seen soon Thanks
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HomeMadeMadness · 26/12/2018 13:38

Maybe he is fed up of you always getting injured? Your travel insurance must be expensive.

Well unless OP has a a habit of being reckless on holiday or deliberately injuring herself this would make him a bit of a dick. It's not OP's fault she now has a dodgy knee and is more prone to injury. OP could have got a taxi to hospital - he didn't even have to go!

Before you even mentioned ASD it was on my mind - he reminds me of (an adult version of) my nephew who is very avoidant. He always thinks he can just steadfastly avoid things by ignoring them and is very stubborn. I'm not sure what the solution is apart from developing a strategy in advance for situations that make DH uncomfortable.

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Lunde · 26/12/2018 13:42

YANBU and your "D"H is being an idiot.

This is potentially a very serious, potentially life changing injury. An ACL tear/rupture is a major thing. Being unable to bear weight on it is an indication to seek medical help immediately. I had a similar injury from a slip on ice and the results were that I will never walk unaided again.

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ThumbWitchesAbroad · 26/12/2018 13:43

All the first aid advice on here would be fine for a minor ACL tear - but the OP has had hers reconstructed before and almost certainly knows whether or not it's likely to be minor. Far better that she gets it checked out, in case it's another case of needing surgery.

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LakieLady · 26/12/2018 13:43

What would A&E have been able to do? I'm not a medic, but with a lot of these tear/sprain/pull injuries the advice it usually to rest until it gets better.

I tore my ACL and partially dislocated my kneecap many years ago. Medical practice may have changed since 1982, but back then they did some keyhole surgery to see what I'd done and put my leg in a full-length cast. I was in hospital for 3 weeks, 2 weeks of which was total bedrest, and in a cast for 8 weeks in total.

These days, they'd probably send you home with a tubigrip and some paracetamol.

FWIW, I did mine one afternoon and didn't go to A&E until the following morning. My knee was the size of a melon!

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Lunde · 26/12/2018 13:55

70sbaubles - I'd be sick of you to be honest. Could you not have just put your leg up for the day to see how it went? You seemed very keen to go to A and E, again. Loads of people just wait and see how it goes.

Wow your comment is really nasty. A pop and not being able to weight bear is a very serious thing. It could indicate a knee dislocation, a knee fracture or the rupture of one of the main knee ligaments or nerves that you need to walk.

When I slipped on ice and was unable to put weight on the leg it was very serious. I had my leg put in plaster just to go to x-ray and spent 12 days in hospital.

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knittedmouse · 26/12/2018 14:02

Acl damage can be serious, particularly as the op has already had a repair. Going to hospital was the right thing to do.

Avoidant people just end up making things worse by their inability to deal with a problem as it presents. This is not necessarily an autistic trait as I'm autistic and like to deal with a problem immediately.

Hope your acl is okay and you feel better soon.

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Juells · 26/12/2018 14:07

Seems like if he doesn't want to do something it turns out to be 'not in someone's best interests' not to do it. What a handy phrase that is.

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Mossend · 26/12/2018 14:13

I'm mixed about this.

Due to your previous damage to your knee I think it is sensible getting medical attention. My DS tore ankle ligaments more than 6 months ago and it was taken very seriously, still having ongoing physio, having spent 2 months in an orthopaedic boot. He certainly would not have been able to go out for a meal before going to A&E though so you could well have waited till the morning.

That said I don't think either you or your DH covered yourselves in glory. Him for telling you not to go and you for not just taking yourself there. No need to drag the whole family.

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Hezz · 26/12/2018 14:16

I would have waited til morning.

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OneStepSideways · 26/12/2018 14:20

Your post sounds rather dramatic and OTT. You had a difference of opinion, why the extreme emotions and devastation? You say you can't weight bear yet hobbled to the shore and made it to the bus stop without being carried?

I think you were too hasty rushing to A&E straight from the beach. Could you not have taken a taxi to your apartment and rested while he got the kids out of their sandy beach things/showered/fed? Then taken a taxi to the hospital with your friend, so the kids didn't have to come and hang around there. I don't agree with exposing kids to the sights, sounds and airborne viruses of A&E unless there's no other option.

Did they all wait with you on the previous holiday when your hand was fractured?

Unless you're seriously ill or need a translator why does your husband need to wait in A&E?

I hope it's just a sprain and you're up and about soon.

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ThisWayDown · 26/12/2018 14:24

I DIDN’T DRAG THE WHOLE FAMILY THERE- I REPEATEDLY ASKED DH TO TAKE THE CHILDREN BACK BUT IT WAS THEM THAT WANTED TO COME.

Still waiting in A&E.
Still in pain.
And yes an ACL injury is fucking serious - I’ve had 3 operations for it in the past and spent many, many months in physio. My first operation caused bad nerve damage and my knee and leg has never been the same. It’s affected my mental health over the years because of restricting what I can do (walking temporarily, running permanently).

Seaweed42 Thanks for the kick up the arse, truly. You are right, it was childish and dramatic and unfair to my children. I’m going to apologise to the kids and explain why I’m doing so.

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ThisWayDown · 26/12/2018 14:28

My AIBU is not about my DH not wanting to go to A&E himself along with me. My AIBU is about my DH not wanting me to go to A&E (whether alone, with friend or with him & children).

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SoaringSwallow · 26/12/2018 14:30

OP my DH has Aspergers and I think that makes this situation a bit different. Head on over to partners of people with Aspergers thread and you might get some more understanding about nuances here. It's VERY different to having a child with it.

Personally, the fact that you'd had two ops on the same knee would make me more, not less, likely to think you should get it checked out immediately.

I really hope it's not the same injury again. Thanks

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LakeIsle48 · 26/12/2018 14:31

Don't apologise to anyone! You were in agony and needed to be seen. You have been in this situation before, you know what you're talking about.

I hope the pain starts to ease off. It sounds like agony.

Don't you dare apologise to any of them. Women/mums tend to put themselves last. Don't do that to yourself, you deserve better. Get them to look after you as no doubt you would look after them. Flowers

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CoffeeCoffeeTea · 26/12/2018 14:34

Hi OP, Hope you are ok Flowers

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AWishForWingsThatWork · 26/12/2018 14:34

Your DH was unreasonable, whether or not he has ASD.

You have a history of serious knee injuries and you know your knee.

I hope it's not too seriousl

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ForgivenessIsDivine · 26/12/2018 14:35

Just sending you best wishes. I hope you get seen soon and get some pain relief and a brace. I am sorry your husband was so unkind.

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YoungLennyGodber · 26/12/2018 14:38

I sympathise, but I wouldn’t have let the children come - I’d have told them to stay at home with their dad. And you haven’t covered yourself in glory by behaving like a child yourself. Both as bad as each other really.

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70sbaubles · 26/12/2018 14:48

I think most people don't understand ACL.
Perhaps being 'sick of you' would be harsh. I had a friend who was always 'ill'. Never had anything, but was 'ill'. Frequented A and E regularly but never had any treatment. Was just addicted to getting medical attention. It put me off doing anything with her in the end, you knew no matter where you went she would be 'ill' and half the trip would be spent in hospital.
I was probably projecting, you do have a serious injury. I didn't realise and thought it was just a 'sore knee' which most normal people would just put up and stick some ice on.
FWIW I'm also autistic. My stomach would sink instantly at having to have an unexpected trip anywhere.

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HJWT · 26/12/2018 14:50

@ThisWayDown if he has autistic traits then YABU, my DH had autism and he's an ass whole, he says stupid stuff and doesn't understand why no one can see his 'logic' but its not his fault.

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HeathRobinson · 26/12/2018 14:51

Bsst of luck op. Flowers It's horrible hurting yourself when you're supposed to be enjoying yourself on holiday.

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MrsChollySawcutt · 26/12/2018 15:03

I think your DH was dead right. I would have also suggested going back to the rental and then rest, ice, compression and elevation. Then a review in the morning to see if you needed medical intervention.

He wasn't saying that you couldn't get medical help just that you didn't urgently need to go straight to A&E. You were not bleeding out or in imminent danger of death so I can't see the issue.

You are still sat in A&E now so actually a night resting at home might have been better for you.

And as for dragging the kids into the argument. Well, are you always such a manipulative drama llama??

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ThisWayDown · 26/12/2018 15:10

I’m very grateful for some of these replies. Some of you are very kind and also spot on. Yes DH is avoidant, yes it’s (probably) not his fault that he’s (—definitely— probably autistic). But jeez I wish he’d accept he has these traits and not argue that he’s being perfectly reasonable, or to accuse me of being horrible and unreasonable when I point out the flaws in his logic.

Am still waiting. Am very tired. There’s three men sitting behind me who appear like they might be both homeless and inebriated. They reek unfortunately. One of them keeps asking for diaezepam every 5 minutes to every staff member that comes past, even if he’s already asked them 10 times. One of the nurses just cuts him off mid-sentence with “no”. Grin

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jessstan2 · 26/12/2018 15:17

I hope you are seen soon, ThisWayDown and that you feel better by tomorrow. Flowers

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