To think this job spec is asking the world for very little money?

[naughtybutniceandaspice]

I can't quite believe it.

NHS, I know. But even still. I'm shocked. £20-23k to do all of this?

What do you think?

AIBU?

I have been working in private sector and would get paid over £30k (outside of London), for that.

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It sounds like pretty basic admin tasks to me

It is a PA position. So no I don’t think it is unreasonable at all.

Yep, it’s an admin role. Not badly paid.

It sounds like it's a directed type of role. Not a lot of autonomy or responsibility so it looks like a fair salary to me.

Complex diary management isn't a basic admin task

Neither is organising someone else's workload.

It’s admin & organisation skills, so no, not unreasonable IMO.

But it says managing diaries of the senior team, not just one or two people. That already makes it quite hectic and requires quite a bit of skill.

As does providing advice and support to people, as it says...

Other things too that seem quite above a £20-23k pay grade

Basic admin. In my (public) sector that would be scale 2/3 which would by 15-19k.

Nhs pay is actually fairly competitive. I moved out of academia because the pay was better in the nhs. Not great by private sector standards obv, but generally better than universities, police, councils etc.

That's good! Our PAs are on £16k - £20k for that!

Do you know what a junior doctor's starting salary is? After all their years of training and qualifications? 27k
www.bma.org.uk/advice/employment/pay/juniors-pay-england

And you're querying 20-23k for a PA?!

Sounds reasonable to me.

But then I'm a deputy ward manager in the NHS and am on a similar salary, and personally that job sounds less stressful.

It’s basic admin 🤷🏻‍♀️

£20k a year for admin is not unusual it’s only Admin after all

I don't know what world I've been in there. I'm not being sarcastic, I'm genuinely baffled.

I've had multiple PA jobs for far more money, most of which came with a much smaller job spec and duty list

It’s basic admin 🤷🏻‍♀️

Extensive diary management isn't basic admin

It's a admin job that doesn't require any formal qualifications (I'm assuming) so it would be max Band 4. Unless you're in a professional role, you won't get higher than that in the NHS.

YABU. This sounds like a good salary for an admin job. My daughter is a police officer...she deals with horrific things daily, is threatened and assaulted regularly (recently had three fingers broken!) and earns LESS than this.

So yes...you are being VVU!

That's ridiculous for a PA! I interviewed for an nhs PA role 5 years ago and the salary was higher, around £25-27k I think. A PA is not just basic admin, they usually have a lot of responsibility and juggle a lot. You wouldn't get a good PA for under £28k where I am

Yeh, only admin. Cos admin is the lowest of low! Is that right punkheart?!

Emergency call handlers and medical techs are on similar. I would say they're underpaid rather than this admin one being overpaid but it's NHS...

I use a similar job description when I hire junior PAs for myself. I work in the private sector and would pay 30k yes, but most junior PA roles in my industry pay that much. I would be quite happy to take on an 18 yo school leaver for the role on 30k if they had the right soft skills— my guess is the NHS role would too.

I was going to say the same as BringOnTheScience, there’s not much difference between what that PA would be on and the starting salary for a doctor.

Aren't PA jobs very low paid as emerald they're just basic admin? I think they're offering a lot for that job to be honest!

My pa in a university is on 27k but she also does project administration

Aren't PA jobs very low paid as emerald they're just basic admin? I think they're offering a lot for that job to be honest!

No. They're not usually low paid in general. Most go for beyond £30k where I am, outside of London.

A junior PA would expect this sort of money, perhaps a bit more.

Once again, it's not basic bloody admin