To think the BBC will change or go under?

[Snowballs4ever]

I don't know many people who watch the BBC, most people I know don't have a license and just have netflix, Amazon, now tv etc

I know it has some popular programmes, but I can't see how it will survive longer term when netflix etc are cheaper and imo have much better programmes. Am I in a bubble or aibu to think it will have to have to have adverts/change longer term?

I don't watch the BBC because I object to the licence fee and how they collect it.

However, if they offered a season pass or similar to stream some of their better shows, I'd consider paying for that. I agree that their model needs to change.

"But what you get on TV - for which you need a licence - is on the whole much better and more varied than what you get on Netflix."
Entirely subjective.

For a while, I used streaming services and paid my tv license. Then I realized I was watching live tv (or iplayer) less than once per month because I preferred the contents on Netflix and Amazon. I cancelled my tv license and stopped watching any live tv. Don't have an aerial or anything in my current place.

I watch masses of BBC/Netflix/prime - happy to pay for all of them

But have not watched ANYTHING live in at least the last 3 years

I even watched the Queens Christmas broadcast later than live

I'd happily pay tax towards the bbc, I like having a state-broadcaster with relatively balanced, non-sensationalist news.

I'm just not interested in their tv content or watching live tv.

The idea that the BBC needs the TV licence to produce quality content is absurd. The UK has another public service broadcaster: Channel 4. It manages fine with advertising.

How do people do without TV news?
Online and newspapers?
We can scan a news site online (Guardian for example) in minutes. No need to sit through a 30 min broadcast waiting for news topics that interest you. People are less passive these days, they search for information when they want it. I can check the news at 8.30, 3.10pm or 7.35pm. I don't have to wait until 9pm. Granted that BBC has 24 hour news channels, but if I want to know the aftermath of the Chester Zoo fire, I look online.

Segmentation

Are you suggesting that Netflix is as varied as TV? Really? Everything on it, more or less, is drama. I’m looking at it now - other than docs and stand-up there’s nothing else!

I’m not saying Netflix is useless, but on no account is it varied.

As for non-BBC news, sure. But none is as good and you have to pay much more for it. (Free stuff online will go.)

I’m happy to keep paying. Great radio, high quality programmes. Just imagine choosing to watch itv or channel 4 news or football on itv all the time-awful! Love radio 5 live. I watch very little but almost everything I watch is on the bbc. Also have Netflix, prime and virgin and rarely watch anything.

I haven't wanted to watch live TV in decades. It really seems old fashioned to me to watch normal TV shows when someone else decides to air it and not when you want it. I would forget what was going on if I had to wait a week between episodes, and I watch at all kinds of different times (i.e one day I might get time in the evening, next mid morning during toddler nap). I don't like watching sport, I have no interest in royal weddings, so election night footage is the only thing I can think of I am tempted to watch - but I find the online live feeds have much less 'filler' than the TV versions.

We do pay the license fee because my DH likes sitting in front of the TV and just putting anything on without having to choose a show (so he will literally start watching a movie 3/4 of the way through, or a long running TV series without knowing any if the characters or plot ) seems bizarre to me, but it's what he likes.

I'm happy to pay for TV production, but not for 'live' TV, it adds no value to me.

Diana

The Guardian is crippled by giving away its stuff. That’s why you get confronted with the begging bowl every time you go there. It will go pay soon, I’m sure.

Quality journalism is going behind paywalls - Times, Telegraph, WSJ and the like. Even the Sun has tried it.

There’ll no doubt always be a free Mail online though.

@KissingInTheRain
Theee of my favourite comedies from recent years are Netlflix originals (Bojack Horseman, Santa Clarita Diet an Master of None). There's others like Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt and Big Mouth that are well received but isn't quite to my taste. I've enjoyed others that are on Netflix but aren't exclusives (currently loving The Good Place).

There's Netflix original cooking shows (not generally my thing, although I enjoy 'Nailed It').

And yes, there are plenty of dramas on there too (OITB, House of Cards, Stranger Things, etc.) which scratch my drama itch.

The only thing it's light on, compared to UK tv, is sport (obviously) and quiz/panel shows.

I wish. I hate the BBC.

1. Its political "luvvie" bias. Remainers to a man (or woman). Barely to bother to hide their liberal bias. It really is disgusting. They've been pushing the "People's vote" crap for over a month now.

1. Its liberal amorality. Constantly tryna prove their PC credentials. Eastenders now pushes lesbian schoolgirls, transexuals, rape, paedophile-hunters, and so on as regular storylines. If you complain (and I have) the BBC are so unnaccountable and arrogant they basically tell you not to let your kids watch it.

1. The rubbish they generally put out as part of its light entertainment package. Its really glitzy. They've obviously spend the money (our money) on this shit.

1. The general rubbish - and there is so much of it! Tomorrow early evening its 5 pm Flog it! 5.15 Pointless 6 p.m. News and South Today. 7. The One Show. 7.30 HS2 8. Eastenders. 9. Mary Berry. And they get how much money do they get for all that drivel (apart from HS2 perhaps). On Tuesday its the same drivel - except they add Holby City! Their Xmas day schedule is the biggest load of dross ever.

But its rubbish, sorry.

The only think I think the BBC are good at (at the moment) is very limited.

1. A bit of alternative comedy - This Country and People Do Nothing are pretty excellent.

1. The very occasional documentary e.g. the one on Germaine Greer was good.

I think they are awful for the most part. GET RID!!!!

A tv licence is for the BBC only!!! Why do people still think its for “live tv”. Its only bbc live programs

A tv licence is for the BBC only!!! Why do people still think its for “live tv”. Its only bbc live programs

You're wrong.

Sorry, and bbc radio.

@newmun

You're completely wrong.

I cancelled our TV licence last summer after realising that we never watch live TV. We got rid of our aerial and our TV is not connected to one at all. We have Netflix and Prime and those are mainly used by the kids. I hardly ever watch anything at all, I prefer to read books. I read the news online every day, I've no need for live coverage. We don't watch sports either. I reckon we could almost go without a TV altogether since all of us have our own tablets. Someone mentioned that what if you only have 20 minutes to watch something, well I don't turn the TV on then at all.
Besides myself I know one other family who is the same but I think everyone else I know still watches live TV.

www.tvlicensing.co.uk/faqs/FAQ104

Newmum, no TV licence is for watching live TV, any live TV. Easily googled on their website.

Look, you like the BBC. That's fine. But other people get more things or better value from other things, including but not limited to Netflix.

Variety is subjective, and you didn't just say it was more varied, you said it was better. There are plenty films, comedies, dramas, documentaries etc. available on places other than live on the BBC. Just because they're to your taste doesn't mean they don't exist.

And BBC news is not objectively superior. I don't see all of the ad-based news websites dying any time soon, and the BBC news website is still free, as is BBC radio and podcasts, and all other radio podcasts. And a Times subscription probably costs less than £150 a year.

You liking something does not make it objectively better than everything else.

To pp who said Netflix etc will have to increase prices significantly or introduce advertising, why? People are choosing to pay for it and presumably they fund great original shows like Narcos using subscriptions from around the world. As they get more subscribers they get more revenue and make more shows. Conversely the BBC seems to be getting less popular with the younger generation and doesn't seem good value for money to many. That's why I wonder if it will survive longer term.

Snowballs4ever

Netflix have already increased their subscription prices on more than one occasion, what makes you think they'll stop?

And if the move away from live tv continues, Netflix will need to produce more of its own content (instead of buying the rights to stuff that has previously aired on live tv) and they'll have to fund that increase.

And news, current affairs, magazine programmes, travel, natural history, movies (their selection is not v good), soaps, politics, reality (IACGMOOH, TOWIE, The Apprentice, Celeb Love Island etc), voting shows (SCD, X Factor), fly-on-the-walls (One Born Every Minute etc), docs (they offer little that’s topical)...etc

And little of Netflix is actually new.

Wow. You are angry Duck
I don't hate the BBC. I don't watch or ignore anything political. I like a lot of programmes the BBC produce. Getting rid of it would deprive an awful lot of people from watching TV.

The BBC is hated in equal measure by UKIP types and Corbynistas.

That’s proof alone of its worth.