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To think the fiancée of this rapist is deluded...

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IchWill · 16/12/2018 10:50

metro.co.uk/2018/12/15/musician-raped-heavily-pregnant-woman-tried-protect-unborn-baby-8251289/

Her quotes made my blood boil. Silly woman.

She's standing by that disgusting cretin.

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Patienceisvirtuous · 16/12/2018 10:52

Why is your ire directed at her? She didn’t rape anyone.

I mean, she’s an idiot - but she doesn’t ‘make my blood boil’. He does though.

IchWill · 16/12/2018 10:54

Because her words rub salt into the sounds of the victim.

Don't get me wrong, blood also boiling at the filthy pig of a rapist.

But her comments, trying to paint him as this wonderful human being triggered me.

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IchWill · 16/12/2018 10:55

Wounds not sounds!

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Appin · 16/12/2018 10:55

Why did Metro even include her character defence in that article at all?

Soubriquet · 16/12/2018 10:57

working link

I am disgusted by the man and appalled by the woman standing by him.

How could she?!!! You really want a bloke like that as a father to your future children

IchWill · 16/12/2018 10:57

@Appin see sensationalist journalism to trigger people like me, would be my guess.

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Soubriquet · 16/12/2018 10:58

With him being a sex offender for life, won’t SS be involved if she gets pregnant with his baby?

IchWill · 16/12/2018 11:00

@Soubriquet thanks for link.

Exactly. He's a vile, disgusting sub-human. His poor victim not only suffering the rape, but having to go through reliving it, especially as he pleaded not guilty to start with.

Then she has to read the words of his fiancée. Vomit inducing.

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IchWill · 16/12/2018 11:01

@Soubriquet if she's standing by him, she may be too old to TTC when he gets out any way.

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M0RVEN · 16/12/2018 11:03

Very sad. You would think that at 41, and her parents in their 60s or 70s, would be old enough to know better.

I guess that’s rape culture for you. The fiancée has to believe that it’s the victim who is responsible for the rape , no doubt because he’s a liar or deluded or promiscuous or was drunk or wearing a skirt.

It can’t be the fault of her finance because he’s a good man. It’s never the mans fault .

OrgyofSausages · 16/12/2018 11:03

This is a horrible case. TBH I feel a bit sorry for the fiancée - she sounds completely deluded and pathetic. Sounds like she is so desperate for a man that she'll even tolerate a rapist who will be on the SOR for the rest of his life.

What a vile person he is. How anyone can do such a thing is beyond me. Sad.

HughLauriesStubble · 16/12/2018 11:06

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selfharmer · 16/12/2018 11:07

I'm male, NC for this.

Sadly my family has personal experience of this kind of thing. A mother who shacked up with two rapists. Who proceeded to rape her children, and she did fuck all about it and defended them. SS were involved after the first incident. Mother birthed children by rapist and took until their abuse (by their father) for SS to actually do anything.

TripTrapTripTrapOverTheBridge · 16/12/2018 11:08

Love does strange things to people. The fiancee could have her own issues or just blindsides it due to love and how he is with her. I don't think it's something any of us could ever understand but there are many convicted rapists and murderers who have girlfriends, fiancees and wives, I think its wrong to target or put down this woman, her life and choice doesn't impact on us although I can imagine her words have caused additional pain to the poor womam he raped and the story shouldn't even exist!

I'm also a bit Hmm at the fact they felt the need to tell us she owns her own car and home

IchWill · 16/12/2018 11:09

@OrgyofSausages Desperate is a word that sprang to my mind too.

I can't bring myself to feel sorry for her. Her words will feel like twisting the knife for the poor victim who should be enjoying her life with a newborn baby, but has had that all tainted my a predatory animal.

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IchWill · 16/12/2018 11:11

@TripTrapTripTrapOverTheBridge I thought that line was a bit odd and wondered what they were trying to imply. They should have added she had her "own teeth" too, to round it off.

@selfharmer that's just awful. Sorry this happened in your family.

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OrgyofSausages · 16/12/2018 11:12

Triptrap I found that detail odd as well. Then it occurred to me that maybe the reporter was hinting that the only reason the rapist was with the older woman is because she is financially solvent - so he's a gold digger as well as a rapist. Nice.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 16/12/2018 11:14

I agree with TripTrap. Women stay with beaters, abusers and get sympathy, even understanding. Love isn't rational and somebody who is in thrall to an abuser is even less rational.

Why is that, when a man does something abominable, any woman who sticks by him is pilloried to hell and back. Why - when a woman does something horrendous, do the men in her life get to sit back and carry on life as normal. They would never come into censure for 'stand by your woman' comments in the way that a woman does.

It's the same with OW, the married man involved gets scant attention , but the woman, my goodness!

Perhaps some of you need to have a look at your own prejudices and where they come from because you sound weird in your spouting-without-thinking ranting.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 16/12/2018 11:15

... and anybody who reads the gutter press, well, you get what you deserve and thanks a million for supporting them to carry on 'reporting' this tripe. Hmm

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 16/12/2018 11:16

I'm literally shaking. Why the hell did I click on that link. Not only the victim but the baby would have also felt that terror.
I might be fried alive for this, but I give zero hoots. I'm a big girl I can take it. Anyone who stands by a rapist is every bit as bad. I have no issues or make no apologies whatsoever in saying that. I hope she doesn't procreate with this vermin.
The thing that has turned my stomach most though is the fact that he has received a lousy 9 fuckin years
AKA as 4.5 with the rest waltzing around on probation.Angry.
I think rape should carry a life sentence and I mean life until they pop off. Oh and they should have it burnt off extremely slowly in acid. Rape is akin to murder and nothing will convince me otherwise before anyone tries. After all the victim will only ever be a shadow of her former self. Her spirit is now dead.

IchWill · 16/12/2018 11:18

I'm an equal-opportunities angry MN'er @LyingWitchInTheWardrobe. If it had been a man making pathetic statements about his fiancée who'd commited a disgusting crime, I'd still feel as angry as I did. My reason, it's awful for the victim to have to hear / read.

Although, I do understand what you say about women getting the short end of the shitty stick more often, mainly in the media

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IchWill · 16/12/2018 11:20

@Awwlookatmybabyspider you feel how I feel about this. It's a dispicable act, he'll be out in a few year, that new mother has a life sentence. His 'DF' needs to take her blinkers off.

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LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 16/12/2018 11:21

IchWill, I hope the victim has more sense than to look for the story in a sensationalised crappy 'news' article. No good can ever come of it.

There's no such thing as factual reporting now and I miss that. As a people we're too accepting of this nonsense and seem to value drama over everything else.

TripTrapTripTrapOverTheBridge · 16/12/2018 11:22

Orgy I wondered if they were using it to dig at her tbh. Obviously they want to dig at her anyway, hence reporting the story of her standing by him- hardly likely they've done it to say 'aww love conquers all' is it. But here we have a woman who works for HMRC and owns a car and house and therefore is not a down and out and should know better than a poor sod on benefits, in a council flat visiting the job centre every week inbetween scrounging for baccie, no...this is a working woman who has it together.

Or is it to say 'well look what he's landed, maybe he is decent after all'

Who knows. Either way the whole thing is, in reality, to dig at her

SleepingStandingUp · 16/12/2018 11:24

I can't feel sorry for her but I do pity her. Noshes clearly a very damaged woman who thinks that because he hasn't been violent to HER then he's a good family man.

Poor poor victim, I really hope she gets the support she needs to find a happy life with her baby

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