AIBU to think we can cancel Brexit and just pretend the entire embarassing spectacle never happened and carry on as before

[CaraCarbonara]

The European Court of Justice has ruled that we can revoke Article 50 without needing consent from the rest of the EU. The EU would love us to stay.

Lawyer David Allen Green tweets
"If Brexit is cancelled, the sensible majority will pretend, with relief, that the entire embarrassing spectalce never happened.

And the minority can have their 'treachery' narrative which, frankly, is all they ever really wanted anyway. Everyone is happy"

What do you think?

Yanbu op, I fucking hope so!

David Allen Green can go fuck himself vigorously with a sharp stick

Welcome to Mumsnet, Boris!

It is so blindingly obviously the way out of our current godawful situation that you'd have to be moronically stupid not to take it. Unfortunately, "moronic stupidity" is the principle requirement for becoming a Conservative MP these days.

Sorry principal requirement

I think the only solution is to run walk away immediatly, if we dont we will never escape, the EU will crush us if we tried to stay now.

In five years time most remainers will be thanking us for standing up to the EU. And if it means that much to the minority then promise them a best of three referendum on rejoining, in 10 years.

If my favourite political party didn't win the general election, I wouldn't want them to come to power anyway because that is not the type of country I want to live in.

You’d be pretty annoyed if there was never another general election ever again. Because the political party in power were elected, so the government and their policies were ipso facto the will of the people and therefore any suggestion that we needed a new government was clearly undemocratic.

Plus on the basis of your argument, the U.K. voted to join the EU (or EC as it was then) in 1975. So leaving is undemocratic... Oh, wait does a new referendum take democratic precedence over an older one (like a new GE takes precedence over the previous one)? Well, perhaps a people’s vote would allow a democratic solution to the current situation then (which as far as I can see everyone is unhappy with)....

AdamNichol
A majority did not vote for Brexit. Only 72% of people voted, of those 52% voted leave - so around 37% of the country voted to leave, 63% of the country did not vote to leave.

nor by your numbers did 63% vote to remain.

effectively a third did not express their opinion one way or another. lets not pretend that they did.

CaraCarbonara
And the minority can have their 'treachery' narrative which, frankly, is all they ever really wanted anyway. Everyone is happy"

Except that this shows that the MPs have learnt fuck all about one of the reasons why this happened in the first place.

I think Brexit is a terrible idea that will significantly diminish the UK's standing in the world and will have a negative effect on our economy (an extremely negative effect in the event of no deal).

If the politicians can agree on a deal, there should be a referendum on The Deal vs Remain.

If they can't agree a deal, there should be a referendum on No Deal vs Remain.

That way, the electorate actually has the potential to make an informed decision.

But we don't need to go to the bother of a 2nd Ref. We could just stroll into an EU meeting, as though we were returning after a crafty fag break, hand our revocation letter to Juncker or Tusk and carry on as if this whole shitstorm had never happened.

Come on Britain - let's do this!

This.

I'll deliver the letter CaraCarbonara! I'll even buy my own ticket on Eurostar to Brussels to do it, if only I can go back to listening to the Today programme each morning without having to listen to an hour of fucking Brexit nonsense. Can I just sign it myself, or would I need to get someone else to?

☺ Hugo Rifkind - very good analogy.

Juneau - I think the PM needs to sign it. I'll self ID as TMay and get it off to you in time for lunch 😁

That would be one advantage to 'self identification' that I don't think anyone on the Feminism board has though of!

Tory rebels now confirming a new leader would need a 'time limited' extension on the withdrawal

This: Eggsit means Eggsit

LEAVER: I want an omelette.

REMAINER: Right. It’s just we haven’t got any eggs.

LEAVER: Yes, we have. There they are. [HE POINTS AT A CAKE]

REMAINER: They’re in the cake.

LEAVER: Yes, get them out of the cake, please.

REMAINER: But we voted in 1974 to put them into a cake.

LEAVER: Yes, but that cake has got icing on it. Nobody said there was going to be icing on it.

REMAINER: Icing is good.

LEAVER: And there are raisins in it. I don’t like raisins. Nobody mentioned raisins. I demand another vote.

DAVID CAMERON ENTERS.

DAVID CAMERON: OK.

DAVID CAMERON SCARPERS.

LEAVER: Right, where’s my omelette?

REMAINER: I told you, the eggs are in the cake.

LEAVER: Well, get them out.

EU: It’s our cake.

JEREMY CORBYN: Yes, get them out now.

REMAINER: I have absolutely no idea how to get them out. Don’t you know how to get them out?

LEAVER: Yes! You just get them out and then you make an omelette.

REMAINER: But how?! Didn’t you give this any thought?

LEAVER: Saboteur! You’re talking eggs down. We could make omelettes before the eggs went into the cake, so there’s no reason why we can’t make them now.

THERESA MAY: It’s OK, I can do it.

REMAINER: How?

THERESA MAY: There was a vote to remove the eggs from the cake, and so the eggs will be removed from the cake.

REMAINER: Yeah, but…

LEAVER: Hang on, if we take the eggs out of the cake, does that mean we don’t have any cake? I didn’t say I didn’t want the cake, just the bits I don’t like.

EU: It’s our cake.

REMAINER: But you can’t take the eggs out of the cake and then still have a cake.

LEAVER: You can. I saw the latest Bake Off and you can definitely make cakes without eggs in them. It’s just that they’re horrible.

REMAINER: Fine. Take the eggs out. See what happens.

LEAVER: It’s not my responsibility to take the eggs out. Get on with it.

REMAINER: Why should I have to come up with some long-winded incredibly difficult chemical process to extract eggs that have bonded at the molecular level to the cake, while somehow still having the cake?

LEAVER: You lost, get over it.

THERESA MAY: By the way, I’ve started the clock on this.

REMAINER: So I assume you have a plan?

THERESA MAY: Actually, back in a bit. Just having another election.

REMAINER: Jeremy, are you going to sort this out?

JEREMY CORBYN: Yes. No. Maybe.

EU: It’s our cake.

LEAVER: Where’s my omelette? I voted for an omelette.

REMAINER: This is ridiculous. This is never going to work. We should have another vote, or at least stop what we’re doing until we know how to get the eggs out of the cake while keeping the bits of the cake that we all like.

LEAVER/MAY/CORBYN: WE HAD A VOTE. STOP SABOTAGING THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE. EGGSIT MEANS EGGSIT.

REMAINER: Fine, I’m moving to France. The cakes are nicer there.

LEAVER: You can’t. We’ve taken your freedom of movement.

Love it @AndThereSaw -

fabulous!

Cancel Article 50
get back to the REAL issues facing the country

• the NHS
• schools
• roads
• the environment
• adult social care

all the stuff that has been in limbo since that stupid vote

I vote for Talkinpeece

Too bloody right. But then, the chaos means that some of the rich are getting very much richer, and I just dont trust ANY of our politicians at the moment to change things.

I’m an ardent remainer and think short term it would be a massive relief. Long term I’m worried about the engagement and commitment people would have with democracy and how we could possibly repair the relationship with the EU.

We can’t put the genie back in the bottle unfortunately. It’s opened up divisions in society that won’t go away. The Tory’s have been reckless and irresponsible in causing this mess and labour see it as some sort of opportunity and are putting party not country first.

Even if I didn’t agree with what a politician stood for I used to believe that, while they migt be wrong, they were motivated by a desire to do what was best for the country. That illusion has been firmly shattered.

I'm with you, Talkin!

'Even if I didn’t agree with what a politician stood for I used to believe that, while they migt be wrong, they were motivated by a desire to do what was best for the country. That illusion has been firmly shattered.'

Same here. And I used to believe that despite the posturing and ego and theatre that is part of politics, the grown ups were actually in charge behind the scenes. I certainly don't believe that anymore either

This would be the best Xmas present ever

Just putting this here...