To be shocked that retail workers don't get extra pay to work boxing day

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AIBU to expect these retail/hospitality workers get extra pay on top of their hourly wage when working over Xmas bank holidays. These workers a missing our on time with their families at christmas with no extra remuneration to compensate this loss of family time.

AIBU or does this just seem very unfair and not at all in the spirit of christmas?

It's funny prosecco, unions are not welcome in our workplace because we offer better benefits than what they were willing to represent. The union called us and said we had to have a vote and we should expect legal action from them if we state we will always keep these benefits. It was really quite nasty.

We said nothing about keeping benefits but said that we will always do what we can to make sure that everyone benefits from the success of the company. We strongly believe that if you treat people how you want to be treated they will behave just like 'you'. A well paid and looked after employee is going to be able to better focus on their job. There is also a limit to what we need. Honestly there is little difference to us between being worth $10m and $15m. That money does make a huge difference to the lives of those who are not high income earners.

Having said all of this, Lidl just opened and they are not allowing the unions in. It's awful and I won't shop there. People need to start thinking about the choices they are making and the impact those choices have on our society.

Lidl and John Lewis both stay closed on boxing Day to give their staff an extra days holiday. I wish other big chains would follow suit. Shocked that people don't get time and a half for Xmas and boxing day !

@knittingdad I quite agree. I am in a union and the amount of people who moan abut the pay and terms and conditions I receive.

It's not a race to the bottom. I wish every job had good pay and conditions for every worker. I wish emergency services, nurses and care works among many others, were paid far better for what they do.

I choose to do my job because of the pay and conditions that the union has fought for.

A well known huge pub chain only pays 1.5 for Christmas day which is even more criminal.

I also used to do care work and the Christmas period for them didn't bother me at all as I was happy enough knowing those people still needed me but pubs and shops there is just no need

It hasn't been time and a half for bank holidays for years - it stopped some time in the 90s? 00s?

With the rise of internet shopping I think there is even less need for shops to be open on Boxing Day, people can shop online if they're that desperate to buy stuff and the actual branches can close.

Supermarkets really don't need to be open. Most people buy more than enough to last two days (25th and 26th) when they do their Christmas food shop anyway and if people know in advance that the shops will be closed for two days they can plan ahead.

Hospitality by its nature is a bit more tricky. Pubs that don't serve food should have to be closed on Christmas Day and staff who do have to work should be properly compensated. Excessively extended opening hours shouldn't be allowed over Christmas. A club in the city centre is going to be open on New Year's Eve until 10am on New Year's Day. That is ridiculous bullshit and there is absolutely no need for it.

Holidays are shit in retail. I was contracted 10hrs a week so had something like 11days a year. Only, as I had fuck all hours, I actually worked 50hrs weeks and had ridiculous amounts of holidays. So glad to have left

It hasn't been time and a half for bank holidays for years - it stopped some time in the 90s? 00s?

It was some point in the mid-00s. I worked in a pub for a bit when I was student, from 2001 to 2004. First two years I was there for Christmas/New Year/Bank Holidays we got double time and a day off in lieu plus a £15 bonus in our pay packet for that week (which doesn't sound very much but minimum wage then was around £5.20 an hour). The following year it was double time or a day off in lieu and £10 bonus. Final year it was double time, no bonus and no day off in lieu. I'd left before the next Christmas but still spoke to some of the staff and it had been reduced to time and a half then at some point after that went to single time/normal rate.

I would be all for shops closing Boxing Day.

I would have thought more people online shop but somehow the sales on Boxing Day are crazy instores. What's so necessary for people to need clothes for one day that they can't wait?

I work in manufacturing. Think of me whilst you're tucking into your prawns.

We get Christmas day off. Working Christmas Eve, Boxing Day, New Years Eve and New Years Day. Day in lieu for public holidays , no extra pay.

No holidays to be taken between Dec 15th and Jan 7th. God help anyone who rings in sick over the holiday period.

Dh and I work opposite shifts so we see each other for 15mins a day at shift changeover. Can't say my 11yr old is full of Christmas cheer this year.

What shocks me is that so many still don't know how much employee rights have been eroded in the past decade.

I'm a nurse, happy to work the holidays, happy to work weekends, I'm not religious so whilst we celebrate the Christmas as a family I'm not actually celebrating the birth of Jesus so it's not important or a right to have it off

Not surprised anymore. My parents live in a small town. One of the shops is opening Christmas Day and making a unbelievable amount of staff work. They have basically been told work or don't come back. No extra pay, no allowing to swap shifts or anything. Sadly their will be people who will go there just to say they were in a shop on Christmas day.

Surely, if spending the day at home with your family is so important, everyone would do that instead of going shopping. The shops will continue to open, whilst the public continue to walk through their doors.

Not enough people are willing to pay more so that workers can have better pay.

Surely, if spending the day at home with your family is so important, everyone would do that instead of going shopping. The shops will continue to open, whilst the public continue to walk through their doors.

People only go because they're open, because they think they should otherwise they'll miss out on "bargains", because adverts tell them they need new clothes/new TV/reduced Christmas stock.

People only go because they're open, because they think they should otherwise they'll miss out on "bargains", because adverts tell them they need new clothes/new TV/reduced Christmas stock.

In which case, spending time at home isn't that important to them.

I've worked in retail and we never received extra pay for bank holidays. I refuse to go shopping between the 24th and 27th. If I've forgotten something, tough.
I hate how people are forced to work over Christmas and have no extra benefits.

I wonder if people have had enough of family being loving by Boxing Day. I sometimes have by the end of Boxing Day. Shopping is an escape. But I don't do it.

I work for Domino’s pizza (unfortunately it’s one of the only jobs I could find to fit around DH work) and we don’t get extra pay for ANY occasion- I will be working late Xmas eve, Boxing Day, will probably see the new year in there as well- for not a single penny over the bare minimum wage. Depressing.

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I live in Germany
All shops close every Sunday and Bank Holiday.

We all manage to do our shopping on all the other days of the year easily enough
Probably because Germans work fewer hours