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To be shocked that retail workers don't get extra pay to work boxing day

210 replies

Sunshinecloud6537 · 10/12/2018 19:48

AIBU to expect these retail/hospitality workers get extra pay on top of their hourly wage when working over Xmas bank holidays. These workers a missing our on time with their families at christmas with no extra remuneration to compensate this loss of family time.

AIBU or does this just seem very unfair and not at all in the spirit of christmas?

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dayswithaY · 10/12/2018 21:04

News flash - working in retail sucks! I don't get paid for time off sick, don't get paid extra for bank holidays including Boxing Day but I am expected to work them. I even have to take Christmas Day off as annual leave - or unpaid - even though shops are closed! One year I was genuinely ill with bronchitis and had to show my prescription for antibiotics to my manager as proof. And this is all legal, apparently.

HelenaDove · 10/12/2018 21:04

Grace The wife of someone who works for UKPN told me that they have ppl on stand by at Christmas now. But prior to the 2013 shit show they didnt. In the 21st century Hmm

flowerycurtain · 10/12/2018 21:05

I'm a farmer. I'm 38 and have worked every Xmas since I was 4 years old with my Dad. He's done the same but has clocked up 74 years.

Dh is a farmer and his parents too. All the same.

My ds is going out to look after the stock this Christmas after his stocking and we won't open any more presents till the work is done.

We pay our staff time and a half and for the whole shift. They normally work 10 hours but we try and finish in 2 on xmas day. Means we all work longer on Xmas eve and Boxing Day though. No one pays more for their milk/eggs/meat in jan tho. In fact prices drop as the market wants a massive supply in December but not in January and unfortunate crops and animals don't work like that.

I cannot fathom for the life of me why, unless you have livestock you would leave your house on Boxing Day. Madness!!

Purplehairdontcare · 10/12/2018 21:05

DaysoffwithaA

You say you have to take Christmas as annual leave, but how many days/weeks holiday do you get?

TulipsInbloom1 · 10/12/2018 21:06

I worked in a hotel for 10 years until very recently. Hourly paid staff were paid time and a half for Bank Holidays. Salaried staff (aka Sueprvisors and Managers) werent given anything extra at all. So guess who worked all of those!

WilburforceRaven · 10/12/2018 21:08

C'mon, there's no comparison between essential services and retail.

HelenaDove · 10/12/2018 21:08

Exactly Raven

EwItsAHooman · 10/12/2018 21:12

Essential services are exactly that, essential! They have to be open 24/7 because without them people could die.

No one has ever died due to not being able to buy a 50" TV at 5am on 26th December.

YoThePussy · 10/12/2018 21:15

daisy agree, what got me was having to make up sometimes 7 hours plus for the actual Bank Holidays. I used to go in one day when the library was closed and put up the decorations for them, I could make that last many hours if needed.

dayswithaY · 10/12/2018 21:16

I get about 24 days, can't remember the exact number but if I ever want a Bank holiday off (not in December) i have to use holiday entitlement and obviously Christmas Day has to come out of that too.

booksandcaffeine · 10/12/2018 21:17

The two bus companies who serve my bus route are not operating Christmas Day and Boxing Day... Which is new!

Never understood why shops have to open on Boxing Day, it's still the festive period. Retail bosses need to look at Aldi and Home Bargains and realise the shops don't need to be open until the 27th.

Give the poor workers a break.

Purplehairdontcare · 10/12/2018 21:19

You get about 24 days? Are you sure it's not 28?

It's normal to have to book bank holidays if they're included in your annual leave entitlement.

booksandcaffeine · 10/12/2018 21:19

I'm working Christmas and New Years; what I do is essential though.

PumpkinPie2016 · 10/12/2018 21:20

It's awful -I waitressed as a teenager in the very late nineties/early 00's. We didn't open Christmas day but got paid double for christmas eve/boxing day/New Year's eve (didn't open new year's day). The only late finish was New Year's eve but once all customers had eaten we were allowed to join the party for free and got fed/drinks.

It's awful that there days people don't get treated the way I was Sad

In all honesty, I think that apart from essential services (police, fire, hospitals) everything else should remain closed on boxing day. There's really no need! People should be able to survive 2 days without visiting the shops.

easyandy101 · 10/12/2018 21:22

We paid enhanced rates on public holidays in our business. It's getting pretty uncommon now though I think

The thing that pisses me off about Christmas period and working is that they cut the train service back to a weekend service for most of the days between Christmas and new year but also charge peak time fares

isseywithcats · 10/12/2018 21:25

i work at tgis am working christmas eve, boxing day, new year eve, new years day and last year the company stopped all bank holiday extra pay so i will be working no extra pay for any of them, with the economic downturn this is becoming more common in the retail lesiure sector, i would rather they closed on boxing day and i had two days off and i dont get an extra day for working it

Polarbearflavour · 10/12/2018 21:26

I never go shopping or use hospitality services on Boximg Day or New Year’s Day.

Greedy retailers. I feel for anybody working retail. Low pay, rude customers, crap managers and working bank holidays for no extra money. I worked part time as a student and it spurred me on to never do it again.

Hopeandgloryeverafter · 10/12/2018 21:33

Pfft no extra pay for Christmas Day in my office! It’s a contracted day so it’s nigh on impossible to even get the day off!

3out · 10/12/2018 21:38

DH works in hospitality. Doesn’t matter what hour of the day they’re working, or which day of the year, it’s the same £ per hour. Sunday, night shift, public holidays, mid-week - it makes no difference.

SPARKLYSTARSHINESBRIGHT · 10/12/2018 21:39

I worked on a temp contract for a popular high st store. The week before xmas a rota was put on the notice board of all the extra hours to be worked for xmas the following week including from 6am to 11pm. No prior warning to this or extra pay and we weren't asked, you were just expected to work it. A colleague was down for boxing day but had already made plans as it wasn't a day she normally worked anyway. The hassle she got for asking not to work that day was ridiculous".

We can all live without shops for Boxing day and all bank hols, it was a real eye opener, I left not long after. I won't be going to the shops this boxing day, and if more people didn;t, they wouldn't open.

Curlygirly · 10/12/2018 21:42

No extra pay here. Still haven't even been given my Xmas hours. No idea what shifts I'm working beyond this week.

madeyemoodysmum · 10/12/2018 22:51

I’d support closing on Boxing Day. 27th is plenty early enough to open.

AngeloMysterioso · 10/12/2018 23:02

When I worked in retail in a shop in Chelsea when I was a student I had to work the day before Christmas Eve, Christmas Eve, Boxing Day, New Year’s Eve and New Year’s Day. My manager wouldn’t let me change any days, even though she knew I was planning on spending Christmas with my Mum in Essex. There are never trains on Boxing Day so to get there I had to walk several miles to the nearest town, get a coach to Stansted Airport, then another coach to Liverpool St, and then get the tube from Liverpool St to Chelsea. It ended up costing me more to get there than I earned that day. Working in retail fucking sucks, but it sucks most at Christmas.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 10/12/2018 23:07

The only people who want shops to open on Boxing Day are those who don't have to work in them

Abso-fucking-lutely

NDNDNDND93 · 10/12/2018 23:07

Worked in Next as a student and we were expected to work until late on Christmas Eve (standard pay) and start at 4am on Boxing Day (standard pay), we were also threatened with the sack if we dared call in sick. Also used to get infuriated by shoppers merrily saying “awk well least you’ll get a good pay for working today”... errrr min wage 😂 or “awww what a shame working today” YES BECAUSE OF YOU! 😂

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