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MIL demands a ‘tour ‘every single time she visits

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bringincrazyback · 06/12/2018 13:20

No, this isn’t a MIL-bashing thread as such, I’d be annoyed if anyone did what I’m about to describe, but I do have to say that my MIL’s ways do test my patience at times.

She’s due to visit at the weekend, and as always, I am somewhat dreading it. She demands a ‘tour’ of the house EVERY time she visits, regardless of whether we have changed anything since her last visit or not. The house is a big old Victorian pile which we love and which people are always quite excited to see, but with four cats, me working from home, suffering from chronic fatigue and caring for my parents part-time, a pathologically messy DH and my parents renting part of the house from us, the fact is that I don’t want people to see every single room, as I’m pretty much the only person in the house who does much in the way of cleaning or tidying (my parents can’t due to various disabilities, and DH barely lifts a finger, because cleaning and tidying are for ‘uptight’ people in his opinion. Oh, and ‘no one notices either way’, apparently. Except that his own mother VERY MUCH notices.)

It’s really MIL's attitude that's the problem, as the 'tours' are actually thinly-disguised inspections during which it always appears she is actively looking for things to criticise. Her own standards of cleanliness and tidiness are extremely high, and she frequently refers to people who don’t subscribe to her own high standards as lazy. We do show people around the house a little, and show them some of the rooms, but not all. I consider bedrooms, for example, to be private (on her last visit MIL demanded to be shown my parents’ bedroom!!!) and I won’t show people rooms which are cluttered or messy, and there are always a couple of those in our house, because with so much on my plate it’s just not possible for me to keep everything pristine, even with a cleaner coming in every couple of weeks.

I think I could see MIL wanting to see the whole house if we'd changed anything in it since her last visit, lol - but she had the full tour the first time (Highlights: 'You'll have to get rid of that awful carpet', 'You need to do x, y, z to the garden ', 'You'll be redecorating the whole house, of course ') and the second after we’d had a LOT of work done ('I see you've still got that awful carpet', 'I'd have thought you'd have ripped those wardrobes out', 'You need to get the exterior repainted') so she’s seen everything now and I really couldn't work out what the deal was with wanting to see Every Single Room again last time and acting like a spoilt child when she couldn't.

Highlights of her last visit: starting to pull branches off one of our trees because 'they need to come off', opening every cupboard and looking into it, sniffily remarking 'Oh, well, the garden's looking a bit better now' in front of my mum and dad who put a LOT of time and effort into making this garden look great when they were more able-bodied, opening cupboards and looking into them, and - the piece de resistance - pulling the classic 'trailing finger along dusty surface, then looking at finger' move. Basically, the more stuff she sees, the more she finds to criticise, so it's easier for my blood pressure if I can limit the amount of criticisms of my home that she's able to find. When did it become socially acceptable to demand a ‘tour’ the second one arrives in someone else’s home? And then whine when said ‘tour’ doesn’t extend to every single room in the house? frowny face

AIBU to be dreading her visit? And, more importantly, AIBU not to let her roam around our home at will, especially given how critical she is?

OP posts:
visitorthedog · 07/12/2018 19:56

How about the truth:

‘No because I felt really hurt and judged last time by your comments. DH does not help out, I am unwell and trying to cope alone and it is also my parent’s home.’

ILoveHumanity · 07/12/2018 19:57

But why does she owe her to justify her house to her ? It almost makes mil think she is answerable to ... almost confirms the big boss little girl dynamic that shouldn’t be there !

clucky3 · 07/12/2018 20:01

This sounds like the kind of shit my MIL used to pull when she came to stay every 6 weeks or so. I stopped letting her come. She hasn’t been here since last Christmas and the whole family is happier for it.

Lillyringlet · 07/12/2018 20:04

Had this with my dad and my aunt. He used to try to snope the house and then nose into things that he shouldn't have. Mum was the same.

Last visit before we moved to our current house we were in a flat and he went to go into our room and I told him "excuse me! You don't see me snooping into your room... Don't be so rude"

They started to talk down about our flat and I said "I don't insult your house with how uncomfortable it makes me being so ocd tidy so I trust you will not be rude about my home. I'm not rude to you and keep my own opinions to myself despite how uncomfortable I am"

When we moved to this house we needed a stair gate for the toddler and implementation of a no guests upstairs rule to everyone.

Do the same - "sorry but we decided for the wellbeing of the people living here we are only allowing guests to stay in this room and these ones. This is for everyone."

Set boundaries and keep to them. If she tries to budge then make it clear what the boundaries are and if she feels uncomfortable with them to maybe meet elsewhere as this is a home to you, your parents and husband. If she complains how untidy it is, as other have said to use the line about blaming your husbands parents. I have also given the cleaning box to someone with "you are uncomfortable with it then feel free"

She is totally on the wrong and this is why your husband is why he is -she's been too strict that he's finally able to not worry about it. He's however pushing that onto you - don't let her do it to either of you. Even point out that your husband is rebelling because of an overly pressured upbringing focused on unacceptablely strict and restrictive cleaning - you are allowing him to have good sanctuary and she needs to respect that or can find the door.

I'm the messy one. I need a space to be messy or I get very stressed. My husband respects that I need a space for that but my family don't.

Once you do it a two times, she will get the message and things will get easier.

Got my mum and sister visiting in a few weeks at the new house and I know they are going to try to push the boundaries as they will want to explore upstairs. If they do my husband is kicking them out as that's where he's hiding away from them (he doesn't like them for abusive behaviour or being an arse to him in the past).

E20mom · 07/12/2018 20:04

Mine doesn't ask or demand. She just goes off on her own opening doors and nosing around uninvited. I do all I can to avoid her coming.

visitorthedog · 07/12/2018 20:09

Not justifying, just saying what you’re actually thinking.

recovery18 · 07/12/2018 20:19

Just tell her she knows where everything is but make sure some rooms are locked

Or get DH to show her around.

As she sets off say "I don't want to hear a single word of criticism when you get back" She's a rude bitch and you have allowed this to continue. Time to stop her in her tracks.

WhereYouLeftIt · 07/12/2018 20:21

"In response to any comment on anything, "Yeah, I said that to your son, but he reckoned only uptight people would worry about it, so..." "

This. She raised a lazy fecker of a son and she's a rude person, so I don't think I'd worry about what she thinks of me.

"AIBU to be dreading her visit? And, more importantly, AIBU not to let her roam around our home at will, especially given how critical she is?"
YANBU on both counts. And absolutely no way would I be letting her roam.

mbosnz · 07/12/2018 20:26

DH your darling Mumsy wants to be taken on a tour of the house, be a love and accommodate YOUR mother, won't you? Oh, and (insert tinkly laugh) dearest MIL, if you could point out the slackness in standards of housekeeping to your son as you go, he doesn't seem to be able to see it for some reason, so never thinks of doing any of the cleaning, perhaps you can help him out with that domestic blindness as you go! Mum, you and I need to go and do that very important errand we were talking about that will take several hours and a couple of cocktails. . .

dorisdog · 07/12/2018 20:27

I'm sure about a million people have said this - haven't read all the comments, BUT, why is this your problem? This is for your DH to deal with, obviously.

You haven't got a MIL problem, you've got a partner problem!

I would NEVER let my parents talk to my partner like this, without pulling them up on it, and I would expect the same.

cheshirecat777 · 07/12/2018 20:33

I feel for you OP

My own MIL was similar to this and my OH was v indulging of it - it’s hard to take all the responsibility Fotolife having arguments with her in her face of an OH who indulges his mother and is a tad cowardly

Plenty of people telling you what you should do some of them unworkable if you had have found it easy to say no it wouldn’t have become an issue

I would go for “ no tours this time, we haven’t done anything new and we do need to respect my parents privacy”

If that fails I would just not invite her anymore or certainly not very often and instead send your DH to visit her. You are not obligated to put up with her criticising you just because you married her son. It is for him to take care of his relationship with his mother not you

You began your post by apologising - again why - you have done nothing wrong!! Your MIL is difficult try a few approaches to deal with her if they don’t work pass her on to your OH to deal with not saying go NC just saying take a big step back

YeOldeTrout · 07/12/2018 20:49

This is kind of thread where I feel least English.

"she is actively looking for things to criticise. "

I would SOOOO let my MIL get on with it. Self-guided tour. "Yeah that's a good point that bit is imperfect. Are you offering to clean it for us, then? Why bring it up then? Why go looking, do you like to make yourself unhappy?" I would enjoy her discomfort & not feel least embarrassed.

Sleephelpplease · 07/12/2018 20:49

OP I’m so sorry and have been there. Just deleted my whole story that I was about to post - as what ended up working was my DH finally stepping up. I had years of comments/ snooping/ put downs. (I even got to to the stage where I left notes where she shouldn’t be looking saying ‘fuck off nosey MIL’ working on the principal she shouldn’t ever see them - and I’m usually anti confrontation). DH finally called her on some awful behaviour when she had a meltdown about me (not towing the line and letting her behave badly with my kids, turns out I can’t suck it up then). It all blew up, he didn’t back down, and now she has a bit of consideration. We all get on better and I don’t feel sick when she’s coming to stay. So please talk to your DH. Otherwise it’s going to impact on your relationship. You shouldn’t have to deal with this and it’s his mum he needs to sort it. It may take a while to get through but it will damage your relationship with him if he hasn’t got your back.

NotBeforeCoffee · 07/12/2018 20:57

Is this just one long humble brag about how big your house and garden is?

Carrieonanyway · 07/12/2018 21:02

Give her a duster and polish when she arrives and say " as you probably know, I havn't had time time this week. You dont mind do yo?"

Aeroflotgirl · 07/12/2018 21:05

Wow how nosey and unacceptable. Don't give the tour, let your DH do it, than she can give him a telling off for not doing housework. Don't show your parents part, it's private. Nosey bint.

Scotland32 · 07/12/2018 21:07

Definitely what Dinosforall said!! Although perhaps I’d go less subtle. Sheneeds to be put in her place - how upfront you are about that depends how brave you are (although I think your DH should be the one reining her in!)

Peregrina · 07/12/2018 21:11

'I see you've still got that awful carpet'

Do you still have it? If you have and you don't like it, say in a loud voice to DH 'Your mother has offered to buy us a new carpet to replace that horrible one.' You can then go one better and choose a really expensive one. But don't rip the old one up until she's stumped up!

Buttonsareforever · 07/12/2018 21:22

Tell your MIL you're just waiting for her to kick the bucket so you can use the inheritance money to pay for a live-in cleaner 😁

PeppyPiggy · 07/12/2018 21:48

You're an adult on the same level as MIL, not her child, if she asks for a home tour respond with honesty "no, I am doing that ...but do sit down let me get you a cup of tea". Give a clear firm NO and then divert onto some nicety, offer a biscuit maybe? if she gets the hump that's her problem and you can tell her that you do not need to explain yourself. Be assertive and polite, being honest is so much easier even when you know it may upset the other person

I have chronic fatigue too, people really don't understand what that's like. Apparently, it's in your dna, did you know that? (My mum said I was asleep all the time as a baby and she had to wake me up to have interaction with me). Anyway, I totally understand. It also seems rude in the first place to be insisting on tours of someone's house.. A tour is offered by the person whose house it is, not insisted on by visitors.

Singlenotsingle · 07/12/2018 21:56

And have you had a tour of MIL's house, OP? I suspect she's jealous of you having such a big house, and makes herself feel better by criticising it.

Rose87777 · 07/12/2018 22:15

@notbeforecoffee - are you for real? Of course it isn’t a humble brag -she’s got chronic fatigue, disabled live-in relatives and an unsupportive DH! Some people are just desperate to find negatively Hmm

Rose87777 · 07/12/2018 22:15

Negativity*

PeppyPiggy · 07/12/2018 22:26
  • "no, I am NOT doing that" ... typos sorry
GBPworries · 07/12/2018 22:28

Jeanclaudejackety

Can you not afford a cleaner? You might think your house is just a wee bit messy but to others it might be like an episode of hoarders

A) Not everyone can afford a cleaner.
B) OP has too much to cope with.
C) It doesn't matter what OP's house looks like to anyone else.
D) OP has a lazy husband.
E) OP has an extremely nosey MIL.
F) Wind your neck in!