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MIL demands a ‘tour ‘every single time she visits

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bringincrazyback · 06/12/2018 13:20

No, this isn’t a MIL-bashing thread as such, I’d be annoyed if anyone did what I’m about to describe, but I do have to say that my MIL’s ways do test my patience at times.

She’s due to visit at the weekend, and as always, I am somewhat dreading it. She demands a ‘tour’ of the house EVERY time she visits, regardless of whether we have changed anything since her last visit or not. The house is a big old Victorian pile which we love and which people are always quite excited to see, but with four cats, me working from home, suffering from chronic fatigue and caring for my parents part-time, a pathologically messy DH and my parents renting part of the house from us, the fact is that I don’t want people to see every single room, as I’m pretty much the only person in the house who does much in the way of cleaning or tidying (my parents can’t due to various disabilities, and DH barely lifts a finger, because cleaning and tidying are for ‘uptight’ people in his opinion. Oh, and ‘no one notices either way’, apparently. Except that his own mother VERY MUCH notices.)

It’s really MIL's attitude that's the problem, as the 'tours' are actually thinly-disguised inspections during which it always appears she is actively looking for things to criticise. Her own standards of cleanliness and tidiness are extremely high, and she frequently refers to people who don’t subscribe to her own high standards as lazy. We do show people around the house a little, and show them some of the rooms, but not all. I consider bedrooms, for example, to be private (on her last visit MIL demanded to be shown my parents’ bedroom!!!) and I won’t show people rooms which are cluttered or messy, and there are always a couple of those in our house, because with so much on my plate it’s just not possible for me to keep everything pristine, even with a cleaner coming in every couple of weeks.

I think I could see MIL wanting to see the whole house if we'd changed anything in it since her last visit, lol - but she had the full tour the first time (Highlights: 'You'll have to get rid of that awful carpet', 'You need to do x, y, z to the garden ', 'You'll be redecorating the whole house, of course ') and the second after we’d had a LOT of work done ('I see you've still got that awful carpet', 'I'd have thought you'd have ripped those wardrobes out', 'You need to get the exterior repainted') so she’s seen everything now and I really couldn't work out what the deal was with wanting to see Every Single Room again last time and acting like a spoilt child when she couldn't.

Highlights of her last visit: starting to pull branches off one of our trees because 'they need to come off', opening every cupboard and looking into it, sniffily remarking 'Oh, well, the garden's looking a bit better now' in front of my mum and dad who put a LOT of time and effort into making this garden look great when they were more able-bodied, opening cupboards and looking into them, and - the piece de resistance - pulling the classic 'trailing finger along dusty surface, then looking at finger' move. Basically, the more stuff she sees, the more she finds to criticise, so it's easier for my blood pressure if I can limit the amount of criticisms of my home that she's able to find. When did it become socially acceptable to demand a ‘tour’ the second one arrives in someone else’s home? And then whine when said ‘tour’ doesn’t extend to every single room in the house? frowny face

AIBU to be dreading her visit? And, more importantly, AIBU not to let her roam around our home at will, especially given how critical she is?

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StrangeLookingParasite · 08/12/2018 21:21

I read ‘big Victorian pile’ as boasty too..

Insecure of you, then.
And no, I don't own a thing, but I also don't have a bloody big chip on my shoulder about those who do.

flumpybear · 08/12/2018 21:30

Tell her 'no your this time, we've not had time to clear and clean and it's exactly the same as before .... so no'!

Giraffey1 · 08/12/2018 21:47

Goodness - you want ANOTHER tour? There’s nothing new to see. Would you like a cup of tea?

If she persists say she will have to talk to your H. Then change the subject.

NotMyOriginalName1 · 08/12/2018 22:05

But what is a victorian pile?? Grin

Itsnotme123 · 08/12/2018 22:18

Tell her there’s no tours available until the complete refurbishment Is finished. All rooms are out of bounds. OR tell her you can’t get in any rooms as there’s soooo much rubbish piled in them, you can’t get the doors open...

“tea” ?

Babygrey7 · 08/12/2018 22:32

In a house like that you need staff!

A daily cleaner

If you and DH can afford a large house like that, you can afford a cleaner, surely?!

Also a gardener

And maybe a handyman

Seriously, why are you responsible for all the housework.

I would not put up with a DH or mIL like that.....

SW6mama · 08/12/2018 23:25

What a long post. Some covert - or not so covert - boasting chucked in there too.

@katekat383

Jeez. She has a large Victorian house, which is central background info to the post! I imagine she didn’t buy it to make you feel inferior. I imagine Vinegar-Tits-Towers or wherever you live is always sparklingly empty of visitors...

WrenNatsworthy · 08/12/2018 23:32

Vinegar - Tits Towers.
Genius.

Maisymoo22 · 09/12/2018 07:25

What Lorelei said.
Plus since your MIL is so invested in the cleanliness of your house offer her a cleaning job that way she can clean and look around the house at the same time. Sorted!
Alternatively tell her to £¥

angelfacecuti75 · 09/12/2018 22:48

Just say 'no maybe another time'...

angelfacecuti75 · 09/12/2018 22:50

Or just no...

SandAndSea · 09/12/2018 23:00

@bringincrazyback - How did her visit go? Any news?

bringincrazyback · 10/12/2018 10:47

Well, bizarrely, she actually behaved herself this time! Admittedly she was only here for an hour, or perhaps 2 at most, but it was so out of character I'm wondering if DH actually stepped up finally and had a word with her beforehand... either way I'm just relieved it's over. lol

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puddlesplashing · 10/12/2018 11:32

Read the full thread. What an anti climax Op lol.

StormTreader · 10/12/2018 12:39

Sorry for me that there was no exciting drama, but pleased for you OP that it was a much more pleasant experience than you were expecting! Grin

GodrestyemerrySchadenfreud · 10/12/2018 13:11

Well, bizarrely, she actually behaved herself this time!

Maybe she's on MN and found this thread . . . . . . . Grin

Miggeldy · 10/12/2018 13:18

Your DH is a scummy douchebag for letting her insult you like this, as well as being a messy prick. Another selfish bastard.

bringincrazyback · 10/12/2018 19:10

LOL, it was a bit of anti-climax wasn't it?! No one was more surprised than me when she didn't make any rude comments. Grin

Sorry I've been quiet. I was silly enough to give myself a CFS flare-up rushing around doing too much over the weekend in anticipation of how MIL might behave. Blush Those who are saying I shouldn't have to feel that way in my own home are absolutely right, my parents keep telling me not to let her get to me too. I think the problem for me is that I love my home and want people to see it at its best - I actually want to show people round (though only if they ask, otherwise it really would seem boasty winks) but the reality of the situation is that I can't do everything that needs doing without help from DH, which isn't forthcoming.

DH's take on housework, just to enlarge on this a little, is that I shouldn't care about it either. So it's not that he thinks I should do it all, it's that he thinks we as a household should subscribe to the Quentin Crisp model of housekeeping, and that I should do as little as he does i.e. the bare minimum. He physically doesn't see dust. He does care about hygiene and will help with the dishes and emptying the bins for that reason, and he does a lot of cooking, especially when my CFS is bad. He also does a lot to help my parents out. But he thinks it's fine if the place is untidy and dusty, and doesn't care if people judge us for it. He'll help a bit if people are coming to visit, but seems to think we should just 'blitz' at those times and leave it to go to hell the rest of the time, which is the opposite of how a person with CFS needs to go about things. He thinks I should 'free myself from the burden of other people's expectations' and also similarly keeps saying that my mum should 'free herself' from said burden when it comes to cleaning their part of the house, which she does do.

Easy for him to say, of course, because we all know that unfairly it tends to be the woman who gets judged. And yes, his slobbishness is unattractive, and selfish, and frustrating, and can be a turn-off. There have been times when I've considered leaving over this. But in our 18+ years together I have come to know that his good points genuinely outweigh the bad by a country mile - I wouldn't put up with the slobbishness if they didn't - and I love him, but he does make himself unlikable sometimes over this issue.

We do have a cleaner, but we need her to come more often, something that's now been agreed so the strain will ease a little in the new year. We have a gardener come in fortnightly, so at least that's not adding to the strain. (MIL actually admitted the garden was 'looking nice now' yesterday - I think DH must have slipped something in her tea when she wasn't looking Grin.)

Part of the problem is that MIL at the age of 79 has more energy than I have ever had in my life. She lives in a huge old converted barn (actually far more of a 'pile' than ours if I'm honest, ours is large and three-storey but maybe 'pile' was an exaggeration - not a boast, it was simply the first word that came to hand lol) and the entire house is pristine all the time. Seriously. DH vouches for this, she's always somehow been able to keep her home immaculate regardless what else was going on. (I consider DH's attitude to housework to be a direct result of this, but that's by the by.) The complete opposite of me, basically, so I think I'd feel inadequate around her even if she wasn't so rude about our housekeeping standards. I do realise this mindset is something only I can change, but I struggle with it, especially as the combination of the CFS, work and helping care for my parents means I can't get anywhere near doing everything I would like to do.

I don't feel the need to defend myself against the accusations of boasting, BTW, because although we appreciate being fortunate enough to have the house we do, we're about as far away from being boasty people as it's possible to get.

Really appreciated all the supportive responses. Thanks. :)

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bringincrazyback · 10/12/2018 19:13

PS telling MIL her son needs to be doing more around the house is something I tried years ago, and was put firmly in my place with a retort of 'women always have to do everything, even if they work, it's just a fact of life', smartly followed up by 'I think feminism is the worst thing that ever happened to women.' Biscuit

Hence there are a whole ton of things I won't even venture on as conversational topics with her for fear I would spontaneously combust.

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puddlesplashing · 10/12/2018 19:57

OP you sound lovely. Ignore her. And just shoot down any invitations from her wanting a "tour". You are doing brilliant.

QuackPorridgeBacon · 11/12/2018 13:10

Given her comment about feminism etc. She’s a lost cause. Let her run around miserable with a pristine house, her attitude stinks and a clean house doesn’t remove that stench.

bringincrazyback · 11/12/2018 13:25

Given her comment about feminism etc. She’s a lost cause. Let her run around miserable with a pristine house, her attitude stinks and a clean house doesn’t remove that stench.

Couldn't have put it better myself! Grin

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LavenderBush · 11/12/2018 13:42

The Quentin Crisp approach is all very well if you live alone. Personally I would not be bothered about visiting a dusty house, as long as it was hygienic and didn't smell.

But I wouldn't want to live in a dusty house myself, and would find it very hard to put up with living with a Quentin Crisp, especially if I had health problems.

Really glad you will be getting the cleaner more often - this sounds like an ideal solution. A big house can be lovely but it really does take a lot more hours of upkeep than a small house, and who wants to spend their life doing that, even if they can? Apart from sad martyr types like your MIL, obviously

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