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DH's behaviour

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smallpersonwrangler · 03/12/2018 08:16

Posting for unbiased opinions. I'll be showing this thread to him whatever the responses.

I had a baby 12 weeks ago and we have a 2.5 year old. I'm a sahm, he works full time. He is generally a great, loving and hands on Dad.

I have never been one to leave my babies when they are small. I don't judge those who do but I just don't feel the need. With my first, people went on and on at me (along the lines of 'you need a break') so much I did end up going on a night out when she was 7 weeks and again at about 12 ish weeks I think too. I didn't enjoy it and didn't want to go. We're surrounded by people who go out without their babies when they are tiny and my DH thinks is odd that I don't.

Anyway I've organised a night out for next weekend. Nothing excessive just dinner and a few drinks with friends I'm really looking forward to it. Baby will be nearly 14 weeks, is bottle fed now so should be fine and toddler will be in bed long before I go out. Am leaving them with their Dad.

This is where I need opinions. Because I'm not happy with his behaviour and it's making me doubt whether I should go and leave the baby with him and me actually saying that has made him very, very upset with me. Also he says I'm just making excuses not to go out and being a control freak not letting him deal with the baby in his way. I'll explain.

As I said he's a great Dad. He adores our children, he's very hands on and he spends as much time at home as he can. However. He just cannot deal with the baby whinging and crying in the evenings. He was the same with our first.

When I say he cannot deal with it specifically what I mean is he will make sure the baby is fed, clean, winded etc. Then he'll cuddle and rock to try to get to sleep BUT after a while when it doesn't work he starts to get annoyed. He'll huff and puff and say things angrily like 'for fucks sake baby, go to sleep' or 'what is fucking wrong with this kid!' Or 'please just go to fucking sleep!' but between his gritted teeth in a really horrible angry way. Sometimes for example if the baby spits up repeatedly and he has to change multiple outfits he'll end up chucking clothes across the floor in temper. That sort of thing. Baby has reflux (she's medicated and it's under control) and evenings have always been our tricky time. She is a grizzly bum in the evenings at the moment. Otherwise baby is really quite easy. She's sleeping through already so no excuse of being super sleep deprived like the early days or anything although he has been busier at work than normal.

He would never hurt our children. I am sure of that. He has never been violent towards me in nearly a decade of being together, he's not a violent or aggressive person. However this sort of behaviour when they baby is whingy in the evening really upsets me, I find it absolutely horrible and completely unacceptable. When I tell him that it always escalates into a row. I try to take the baby from him when he's like that and he usually refuses to hand her over, saying 'no, you need to let me settle her, I can't just give her to you all the time'. I rather take her and settle her myself nicely than let her go to sleep with him hissing in her ear.

I get that it's frustrating - it frustrates the life out of me when I've been running after a toddler all day and the baby won't settle long enough at night for us to eat dinner and chill for half hour. But that's life with a small baby- you just have to suck it up and get on with it! I'm not perfect, I've been known to mutter the odd 'FFS' under my breath. It's hard. But not this horrible, borderline aggressive behaviour.

This is the only time he's like it. He has improved a bit since we've fallen out over it numerous times but he's still doing it and it's making me not want to leave her with him next weekend. I can't bear the thought of not being here to comfort her and take over if he gets all cross.

Thoughts? What would you do?

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GreatDuckCookery6211 · 03/12/2018 08:43

I wouldn't go sorry OP. Not if I had to leave my baby with him anyway, are there any grandparents that could step in?

He needs to address his anger, easier said than done I know but it's not fair on any of you that he behaves like this.

Sarahjconnor · 03/12/2018 08:50

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AutumnCrow · 03/12/2018 08:51

I wouldn't blame you for not going out, either.

BUT, you need to address what your husband is achieving by this crappy behaviour. What message is he sending to you? Why is he sabotaging things - what does he get out of it? Think about that.

smallpersonwrangler · 03/12/2018 08:52

The thing is, as it's the first time leaving her I really don't want to leave her with anyone else. I should be able to leave her with her Dad, shouldn't I!

I have spoken to him about being angry/ frustrated like this and asked him to speak to someone about it. He says he doesn't have a problem except for me getting on at him.

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AutumnCrow · 03/12/2018 09:00

He says he doesn't have a problem except for me getting on at him

So it's your fault, is it? How very convenient.

Does he make stuff up in other areas of your life, blame you, minimise stuff?

smallpersonwrangler · 03/12/2018 09:00

@AutumnCrow You mean by behaving like this I'll have to stay home? That's basically what I said to him last night (he is now not speaking to me because he is so insulted).

I said it's almost like you do this so that I feel like I can't go out and leave her, while at the same time going on and on at me to go out. He said I shouldn't blame him for me wanting to be a control freak when it comes to my children.

I should add, before baby was born and it was just us and our toddler I did used to go out every few weeks and it was never an issue. And that he has been like this in the beings since baby was tiny not just since I said I was going out.

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Shoxfordian · 03/12/2018 09:02

He's not a great Dad if he gets so aggressive just because the baby is doing what babies do, they cry.

Was he like this with your first as well?

TenForward82 · 03/12/2018 09:05

@shox OP said he was. Why do women have more than 1 child with men like this?

GreatDuckCookery6211 · 03/12/2018 09:06

He says he doesn't have a problem except for me getting on at him

Rubbish. It's not your fault that he's angry at his baby. What are you supposed to do, nothing?

smallpersonwrangler · 03/12/2018 09:06

Yes @Shoxfordian he was when she was small. But our eldest was a very very difficult high needs baby who cried constantly, wouldn't feed and wouldn't sleep. Still not ok but the circumstances so different and so very much harder. This baby is a breeze is comparison to her sister. She just had a few many hours in the evening.

Strangely, he can deal with a full on epic toddler tantrum with no problem. Eldest went through a stage of night waking when I was heavily pregnant where she would scream for hours if she was asked to go back to bed. He dealt with all of that, with barely a groan.

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LakieLady · 03/12/2018 09:10

If it's just his way of venting, I wouldn't be concerned. But if it's because he's genuinely getting angry or stressed, I'd think twice.

smallpersonwrangler · 03/12/2018 09:10

Yes @GreatDuckCookery I am supposed to sit there and say nothing and let him get on with getting the baby to sleep no matter how much he grumbles and grouses.

I told him the other day I cannot sit by and listen to it, that I'm a mother and I'm programmed to step and and help if my baby is distressed. He said I was talking rubbish and that I don't feel differently to how he does or love her any more than he does so I need to let just let him get on.

I'm not saying I can settle her quicker - some nights I can't! But I do it without the anger.

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Blondebakingmumma · 03/12/2018 09:11

I have a bub atm and your original post was difficult for me to read. I wouldn’t let anyone treat my baby that way, I don’t care who they are. Sounds like he needs anger management

MyKingdomForBrie · 03/12/2018 09:14

He needs to work out why this tiny helpless baby crying is such a trigger for him, and he needs to understand why he just cannot behave like he is - does he understand it's damaging or does he think it's harmless as baby 'doesn't understand'?

AutumnCrow · 03/12/2018 09:17

he is now not speaking to me because he is so insulted

Do you know what stonewalling is, OP?

smallpersonwrangler · 03/12/2018 09:21

@MyKingdomForBrie I think I know why it's such a trigger. He's a real perfectionist. He can't deal with it when there's no logic to things or he can't 'fix' things. So here, baby is fed, warm, comfy, clean, burped and tired. So, logically she should just have a cuddle and fall asleep right? Well yes, but as we know babies just don't do that do they!

If he can't fix whatever's wrong he can't handle it and gets frustrated.

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0lgaDaPolga · 03/12/2018 09:22

I wouldn’t leave the baby with him when he reacts like that either. You say he wouldn’t hurt her but if he’s getting angry and you aren’t around to calm him down or take over with the baby and he’s getting increasingly frustrated I wouldn’t want to think what might happen. I wouldn’t be leaving a baby with him alone until he gets his anger issues under control and it’s really unfair how he is making out like it’s your fault.

smallpersonwrangler · 03/12/2018 09:22

Yes @AutumnCrow I do. He's not doing that. He's just demonstrating how much I've insulted him by saying that. I just told him to grow up.

He'll be talking to me again by the time he gets in from work.

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Veganfortheanimals · 03/12/2018 09:27

I would not be going out and leaving him with this baby.i would not be having another baby with this man.i actually don't like the sound of him at all..I'd personally not stay with a man like that.

OutPinked · 03/12/2018 09:27

I have a five week old and my DP did this once when he was about two weeks old. We hadn’t slept properly for the entire two weeks, DS was very difficult in the evenings during that time and just wouldn’t sleep for hours at a time. DP lost his rag eventually and said “Will you shut the fuck up”. He immediately regretted it and apologised profusely, he hasn’t and won’t get away with saying anything like that again...

You shouldn’t stand for your DH acting this way. He needs to address whatever anger problems he has immediately. He’s a ‘great dad’ aside from the fact he swears at your tiny baby for being a baby...

I wouldn’t trust leaving the baby alone with him for now. It only takes one stupid angry moment...

Aaaahfuck · 03/12/2018 09:29

I don't really think you can categorically say he wouldn't hurt the baby. If he is losing his temper it's not that far for him to hold the baby too tight or shake her. It doesn't take much to hurt something do small. As pp's have said I also think his behaviour is potentially controlling as it ends up with you not wanting to go out.

AutumnCrow · 03/12/2018 09:30

He's making it all about him.

It must be quite draining. I know I sound harsh but I feel for you, and I know you're concerned about the situation regarding your baby. Your husband on the other hand blames you and huffs off to work having made no useful suggestions whatsoever.

Bringbackbertha · 03/12/2018 09:33

The thought that he is a perfectionist and gets upset when you say you will take baby is it possible he is upset or embarrassed that he can't settle his own baby.

I only it because it's how i felt in the early days when I couldn't settle baby I would get angry or upset (verging pnd) that I wasn't good enough for the baby and I am a mother. When we get angry or upset humans take it out on those closest too them (not in distance)

He needs to address it but I wonder if he will be different when on his own with baby and doesn't feel like he is being judged

CanuckBC · 03/12/2018 09:33

Definitely don’t leave the babe alone with him. This is how baby’s get shaken. Someone gets angry they won’t atop and in their fit of anger shake them or drop them or similar just to make them stop. They don’t do it to hurt them, just to make them stop. In them seeing red at the crying and whining etc they just want it to stop by any means and lose it. In the right mind they know it’s wrong but in the red state of anger logically it makes sense to shake, drop etc to just make it stop.

Do not leave your small, helpless baby with someone who has such enormous anger issues around their crying. Babies cry just because. I had two colicky babies and it was hell. More then once I had to put them down and leave the room due to frustration after hours of screaming/crying and frustration. Especially when I had PPD. Men can get similar. They can get baby blues.

Get him to the Dr and checked out. For his out of control anger and unusual anger. Some coping mechanisms like listening to music via headphones while putting her down may help.

JudgeRindersMinder · 03/12/2018 09:34

I’m usually quite laid back about these things, but this is ringing alarm bells with me. When mine were tiny, dh was the calm one, amd I’d be the one to get frustrated. My frustration came out as tears though because I felt like I was a useless mum, not as anger in the way that it is with your dh.
Whilst part of me is saying he’s doing it as a Control thing to get you to stay home, and you should go out and it’ll be fine, but there is the other part where the alarm bells won’t stop and you’d never forgive yourself if he lost control
I’m absolutely no help am I-sorry

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