To be worried by how bad at maths / numeracy dd is?

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My dd is nearly 3 - although was just over two months prem but apparently that shouldn’t matter now - and she just has no clue. None.
She can barely count to 10. If I ask her ‘how many’ she just looks vacantly at me. She will independently say ‘I’ve got two’ or ‘I’ve got three’ but she can’t touch count to save her life.
My friend’s daughter the same age can touch count to 10 and also recognise that if the has 5 or something and uses 2 she will have 3. My son was also very good at maths by 3.
Dd can’t recognise any numbers apart from 1 and 3 - although she’s got quite a lot of letters and has picked those up from alphablocks on her own - but numbers she has absolutely no idea. She’s got shapes, she knows how to share in half and quarters by breaking up a biscuit for example but actual numbers and counting she is just vacant.
I’ve tried number songs and playing games etc and still no.
She starts preschool in January and Im worried she will be miles behind already.

Does anyone have any good games that might help her? Has anyone had similar with their child and they’ve turned out to be ok at numeracy when they go to school?

She is TWO, not 3. Maybe you are not so hot at maths yourself.

Poor child.

So much pressure is going to set her up for a lifetime of feeling a failure

Give the child a break. She is 2. She needs love and chatting to. No harm in singing counting songs to her etc but don't push. Next thing you will be asking why she cant read Shakespeare at the age of 5.

You lost me when you said she was born 2 years ago. Have a word with yourself.

OP, my son was still like that when he started school and not a great deal better at the end of Reception and still really doesn't get numbers aged 7. It's just not his thing. Chill out and let your DD be.

This is bonkers!! I'm a teacher (year 1) and the things you're talking about are what I'm teaching my class!!

You need to unclench OP...seriously! 🙄

I just don’t understand how she can memorise the words to an entire song but not be able to remember the sequence to count to 10?!
She isn’t a baby, she will be at school in just over 18 months. Think what they expect of them. I just don’t want her to go in already miles behind.

Being able to parrot off numbers by rote isn’t “counting”.

Counting has nothing to do with numeracy, it’s just recitation; in the same way that reciting the alphabet doesn’t mean you can read or write.

The fact that she can divide a biscuit into four pieces for four people means she has a perfectly good sense for numbers. Just relax.

Oh bloody hell, look if you’re worried about things like this then there are lots of activities and games you can play to help her. Nursery rhymes are fantastic to learn how to count.

My dts were prem too and I do remember stressing slightly over their development, and worrying about them catching up or being behind.
As pp said, stop worrying, especially about numeracy.

Just play, count jumps, sing songs, do shape sorting toys and puzzles. That’s all maths to a 2 year old.

She can't do it yet because you didn't practice it enough with her yet.
So go practice! Make it fun and happy.

If you don't, she'll still get there anyway, in her own time. Either approach is fine.

In the summer before reception started we were given cards with the numbers from one to ten. We were encouraged to teach our children to recognise the numbers written down and to practice counting to ten.

Some children couldn’t do this when they started in September. It really doesn’t matter.

18 months is a lifetime at this age.

You risk spoiling her childhood memories with your obsession

She can recognise a few numbers by sight and presumably understands the concept of more and less. Beyond that, what does she need? They’ll teach her to count when she starts school.

Op, for this age learning a song, is exactly the same as learning to count. Many don't know what it means. They just know that if their parent says to them 'can you count darling' they are to respond 'one, two, three etc'
I can't really remember anymore but I do t think many two year olds actually count, as in 'if I take these three oranges and add two more I'll have five'

You are actually making me seriously fucking upset now!!! You've read ALL the posts telling you that you're wrong to be 'concerned' and yet you are still spouting this crap!!

Your anxieties are the real problem. NOT YOUR TWO YEAR OLD!!!!

I'm out...before I REALLY get angry!

I mean she is average in other ways so I’m not sure why this is such an issue but it really is.

It's only an issue because you are making it one. Are you normally this anxious? TBH you are sounding a bit ridiculous.

Also she is basically 3 not 2. I mean if she was just 2 it wouldn’t be a worry but she’s nearly a preschooler.

So she is pre-pre-school! She'll be there for 5 whole terms before she starts school proper.

Waterstones do very good workbooks and revision guides that explain things like calculus very well. 😂

Seriously don’t put expectations on her just yet, time enough for that later. Do carry on doing the things you’re doing as she’ll benefit hugely- nursery rhymes, counting games, rich vocabulary, waterplay with volume words, measuring. Not formally, not pressured but just as a fun part of everyday life to encourage a love of learning and curiosity about her world.

Jeez Lou

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Shit

1. she's two!
2. reciting numbers is EXACTLY THE SAME as reciting letters. Recognising letters is EXACTLY THE SAME as recognising numbers. If she can do one, she can do the other (with exposure). Using them is different. Don't make it a thing in your head that she can't "do" numeracy. You're not being logical here...

My daughter was behind in nursery because she was born too soon. Parents I had contact with, doctors, paediatricians and other so called experts told us she would be below average, educationally. My mum said to me, it's like they've written her off before she's been given a chance, and to ignore them.

Best advice ever. Dd is doing very well now in Y7, meeting and exeeding expectations in all subjects. Don't compare your child to others. Some "get it" earlier than others. Maybe maths just isn't going to be strong point. It doesnt matter. She is only 2 years old! She has the rest of her life to achieve things. She may be good at sport, or science or humanities instead. Praise and encourage. And relax!

Well you only have yourself to blame op. She's nearly 3 ffs! What have you been doing all this time? We did Womb Maths, my dd came out counting in 2s, 5s and 10s and is now a rocket scientist. You've missed the boat I'm afraid, poor dd.