New to mumsnet. Why so many trans threads?

[Sunisshining5346]

Im extremely new to mumsnet (less than a week) I don't understand why there are so many threads on trans etc? I have loads of active threads about it. Can someone tell me why? And is there anyway I can stop them on my thread?
I'm not being mean before people attack me. It's just I'm not trans, I know nobody that is, so I can't join in those conversations.

Sorry I really hope I haven't offended anybody. Can someone just explain to me why? And if I can stop them xx

You can hide threads, yes, and also just not open the ones you aren’t interested in. This is a discussion forum so obviously different topics will be covered.

I think it’s still important that everyone, including you, join them. The fact you don’t know any trans people doesn’t mean these issues won’t affect you. Maybe try reading some of them?

Lots of topics I am not interested in.

Just don’t open them

ive never read any, literally dont know any trans people at all.

You can hide individual threads and whole topics.

But to answer your question: the threads are not by/about trans individuals but are women discussing the possible ramifications of changes in the law that will allow anyone who chooses to do so change the legal sex simply by saying so!

They cause a lot of heated feelings in posters who see a problem with that as well as those who don't think it matters!

New huh?

Well if I was ‘less than a week new’ to a site I’d probably spend a bit more time figuring it out and learning why there are ‘so many’’ threads on any given subject.

It is a small part of the much wider topic that is gender critical feminism, which you will see indirect reference to on most threads, especially threads discussing the difference in expectation of contribution to housework, shopping, cooking and childcare between men and women. Because of the current self ID proposals the trans issue is a very current topic for feminist discussions.

Why don’t you just read the hundreds of non trans thread instead? Why make another post about trans thread?

It’s a Mumsnet handwringing hobby horse.

I have close friends with (adult) trans children (M to F and F to M) and run an LGBT group with trans pupils in work before anyone says “you don’t know what you’re talking about”.

It’s a ploy to make new posters start posting.

Wow, there’s really no need to be so rude!

When I first joined MN I felt the same way OP. It seemed a bit transphobic to me. I then took the time to read some of the threads, so some background reading myself and I realised why so many women are so concerned about this problem.

MN isn’t transphobic, most have no problem with trans people. The worry is that the rights of women,who born female

Argh!

The rights of women are being eroded in favour of the rights of trans women

Because the redefining the meaning of 'woman' and 'female' to include a subset of people of the male sex who 'feel' they are a woman is a pretty big deal with a vast number of implications.

You can hide the whole feminism topic, which will keep the trans threads out of active. It’s frustrating because it means you will also miss the good feminist threads, but tbh these are few and far between anyway!

Perhaps if you read them you'd understand why there are so many. I used to feel like you and they've opened my eyes. That being said you are free to hide the topic

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3145470-Break-it-down-for-me
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3335962-Frequently-Asked-Questions-FAQs-I-have-noticed-here

You can hide threads - and I think entire boards - or just not click on them.

The people telling me to read some, I have. But the conversations get really aggressive and I can't see any points being made. Just slating one and other. So I'm not learning anything? I have no interest in arguing with anybody, so I just wouldn't join in on a thread like that. And I also have no knowledge so it would be disrespectful.

How do I hide threads?

Just don't open the threads. I can't stand them so just scroll past.

by aggressive, you mean women having tough, uncompromising discussions about issues which directly effect them? Refusing to be kind, quiet, lacking in all opinions or the desire to share them, in case they should offend someone? Women after all, should do what they’ve been socialised to do for centuries: shut up and get back to being “nice” and easy going. Men, on the other hand, can say and do whatever they like.

Sunisshining there's a lot of trans thread here because Mumsnet is one of the few places that - even with a lot of restrictions in place - allows women to talk about the huge changes in corporate practice and in the law that makes it possible for people with penises to use the facilities, including changing rooms, etc where people are naked, that were previously reserved for women only.

This affects all women and girls. There's lots of different ways it might affect you - for example, do you have a daughter in the Girl Guides? Did you know that boys who identify as girls are allowed to join Girl Guides and go on trips, etc, without the other parents being told that it's now a mixed-sex trip?

The threads are because of proposed changes to the law which in the past few months have been subject to a public consultation. Sex as a protected characteristic is already being undermined and changes to the law would increase that. In addition to regressive gender stereotypes being pushed on children and supported by special interest organisations, there plenty of concerns for women to discuss. Many of them are on the feminist boards which you can hide if you aren't interested in these discussions.

Right ok, thank you! I'm so so sorry, I just wasn't getting any of it..
Thank you to everybody who has posted to me xx

To be fair I think most of the trans threads are women discussing some of the issues. There are some that are heated and disagreements but not the majority, I had no idea about the implications of the proposed legislation until I started reading those threads. I’m really grateful to mumsnet. It’s a huge issue for women - actually for everyone, especially given all the stuff about children.