New to mumsnet. Why so many trans threads?

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Im extremely new to mumsnet (less than a week) I don't understand why there are so many threads on trans etc? I have loads of active threads about it. Can someone tell me why? And is there anyway I can stop them on my thread?
I'm not being mean before people attack me. It's just I'm not trans, I know nobody that is, so I can't join in those conversations.

Sorry I really hope I haven't offended anybody. Can someone just explain to me why? And if I can stop them xx

by aggressive, you mean women having tough, uncompromising discussions about issues which directly effect them?

That’s not really true, is it? If you post a trans-positive message on here, you’ll be inundated with responses and a large proportion of those will be calling you a handmaiden and a woman-hater. Tough and uncompromising is one thing, but can you put your hand on your heart and say these threads never descend into abuse, aggression and hostility?

It's mumsnet's USP. 🤑🤑

I have no interest in probably around 70-80% of threads on here. This site is waaay bigger than 'Active Conversations'

It's not compulsory to click on every single thread y'know...

YABU
Hth

I have no interest in arguing with anybody

Isn't this was Mumsnet is known for?

It’s a Mumsnet handwringing hobby horse.

I have close friends with (adult) trans children (M to F and F to M) and run an LGBT group with trans pupils in work before anyone says “you don’t know what you’re talking about”. Many trans individual post on those thread. Many posters have friends and family member who are trans. Very few posters are entirely unaware of the real issues many trans individuals face!

But that is entirely different from the legal issues being discussed on those threads!

Am I too late? 🍿

You are clearly new if you think that joining in a thread where you dint know anything about it is rude and disrespectful

Just hide the thread you aren’t keen on or just don’t open them.

I’d encourage you to read those threads, even if you dint post. They can descend into a small fight but you will” learn a lot. In particular how the trans debate will affect you as a woman, even if you actually dint know any trans person.

Tbh the strength of MN IS about reading threads on stuff you know nothing about and learn.

I’ve learnt about SN, transpeople, feminism, politics, Relationhsip and ASD just by reading all those threads in things I knew nothing about.

Yes they can - but it's not always one sided is it - we get a lot of troll coming over and trying to be offended and cause shit which is then posted all over twitter

Transactivists look for women to attack where every they can - MN seems a fave choice

I have hidden the entire Feminism section of the forums. Much better 'Active' page now. Easy enough to do.

disrespectful

Interesting choice of terminology OP.

Almost as if you knew exactly the reaction you were trying to provoke and posted solely to elicit it.

Your fake naivete is showing.

Not trans, eh?

I have close friends with (adult) trans children (M to F and F to M) and run an LGBT group with trans pupils in work before anyone says “you don’t know what you’re talking about”

What about the Transmen and women who post on those threads?
Why do you assume people posting are totally ignorant to issue that affect them?

If you post a trans-positive message on here, you’ll be inundated with responses and a large proportion of those will be calling you a handmaiden and a woman-hater. Well if your version of trans positive includes the statement that Trans Women are Women and/or makes not mention of transmen, then yes! You will get an angry, determined push back!

All most of those posters want it is to be able to discuss Self Id in public without having to hide behind anonymous posting names to avoid the very real threat of physical violence or ridiculous accusations being made directly to employers!

Are there really that many in Active? Thank fuck I hid the FWR boards then!

OP:

Tedious, no?

Interesting choice of terminology OP. Yes, the hyperbole extremely new to MN that is literally funny!

I only have one thread about 'trans' in my Active list and its this one. Its a common topic ATM because Self ID is being introduced, and its already having a negative effect on the rights of women.

Why do you assume people posting are totally ignorant to issue that affect them?
No you've misunderstood that comment. People challenge her and say she doesn't know what she it talking about.
Its a common trope 'if you only knew some trans people you;d feel differently about self ID'

Well if your version of trans positive includes the statement that Trans Women are Women and/or makes not mention of transmen, then yes! You will get an angry, determined push back!

Ahh, I understand. If people disagree with you, it’s fine to be aggressive and abusive back.

@captainkirksspookyghost..Yes I'm learning that one very fast! Maybe I was just too naive, I joined just to get advice on kids etc, and maybe give advice to other people. But most threads on here descend into chaos! People on here can argue and want to kill each other about whether not to put their christmas tree up!

If there is ever any hostility I think that is because the goodwill of many women has been exhausted. I had no issue with accepting transsexuals for example as women- it was never stated that they were 'literally' women and everybody accepted reality. These days I'm told that the penis can be a female sex organ, males who had undertaken no physical transition are biological females and if I disagree I'm a bigot. I see transactivists on twitter stating that they want to rip out women's ovaries and not get banned but Meghan Murphy, a journalist, is banned for discussing the dubious background of a man who is trying to exploit the law and directly harming women. Is it any wonder that some women might roll their eyes when somebody comes onto a thread to call them transphobic or tell them that trans people are the most oppressed group in the history of the universe? Enough already.

Anyway, OP - I can’t tell you how much my MN experience improved since I hid that board, I highly recommend doing so.

Just checked my active list...

I counted 5 out of 100 (including this one OP)

Wow, so many! /s

Sometimes they wander onto this forum, though. That is irritating.