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My sister financially benefitting from our parents AGAIN.

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QueenofmyPrinces · 26/11/2018 08:40

There are 13 months between me and my sister so we were very close growing up together and we are still close now, I love her and she’s one of my favourite people to be around.

Growing up we were very different, I was the typical ‘good sensible girl’ whereas she was more the type who took each day as it came and having fun was her main focus. At the time, I was envious of her character and spirit and wished I was more like her.

I did well at school, went to college, then university and have a professional job, whereas she didn’t really try at school, dropped out of two college courses and eventually ended up in a job that our neighbour found for her.

Fast forward to now: we’re in our late 30s and still very close. We both have two children although she is no longer with the father as he turned out to be a complete shit. He’s active in the children’s lives though and he provides well for them financially and helps my sister out too in ways he isn’t obliged to. I don’t particularly like the man but I can’t criticise him for the way he still provides for the children and the things he does to help my sister.

In our teenage years and through our 20’s my sister was frequently financially helped out by our parents because “she didn’t have a well paying job” and they paid out a lot for her. They paid for things to be done around her house (luxuries as opposed to necessities), paid her phone bills and store cards, paid for things for the children and paid for her driving lessons too when she was in her mid 20’s.

At the same time as they were paying for her driving lessons I was having to pay for my own lessons even though I was a student and they were charging me rent, compared to her being in full time employment and not even living in the family home anymore.

I could list lots of ways my sister has financially benefited from our parents over the last 10-15 years and although there has always been potential for resentment because of how differently we were treated I never felt it, or if I did I have no recollection of it and it didn’t impact on my relationship with my sister.

Fast forward to the last 12 months or so and my sister started going out with her friends a lot more, going out frequently for meals and drinks, going away for weekends, having new clothes etc and at the time I thought nothing of it. I was just glad to see her enjoying herself now her children are older (10 and 14) and that she was getting her life back as it were.

Recently me and DH have put ourselves out quite significantly in terms of finances in order to do something to benefit her children in order to allow them to experience something they’d never be able to if me and DH didn’t pay for it. Initially we had spoken about her paying 10% of the cost but after thinking about it I told my sister that no financial contribution was necessary as I was happy to treat my nieces and that I knew every pound counts to her and that even a small contribution would be difficult for her. She said thanks, she appreciated it and that was the end of the discussion.

Anyhow - I found out a few days ago that for the last 12 months my parents have been giving her £200 every month “just in case she needs it” and it’s actually really pissed me off. Our parents are divorced and they each give her £100.

I now feel a little put out that she so readily accepted our offer not to contribute to what we are doing for her children (which is costing us nearly £1k) when she’s getting £200 each month from our parents that she doesn’t actually need.

They (particularly my mom) also give her children money quite frequently whereas mine don’t get anything.

Inside I feel like the “special treatment” of her is still going on after all these years and I think that throughout her life it’s paid off that she didn’t get a good job because my parents have paid out so much for her and still do. I’m also in disbelief that at our age she is still taking money from our parents because as adults shouldn’t we be taking responsibility for ourselves?

I haven’t told my sister that I know about our parents giving her money each month and my parents don’t know that I know either. I won’t say anything to either of them though because it won’t serve any purpose. I only found out due my mom’s brother accidentally letting it slip when he asked me how I was spending my £200 each month as he had assumed my parents were doing it for both of us.

Im just venting. I know it’s my parents choice how they spend their money but after watching them pay out for so much for her over the last two decades this has been a bit of a blow to know they’re still doing it.

I was talking to DH about it and in my frustration I said that I wished I’d made her life choices instead of my own as maybe then my parents would have paid my way in life too and funded my lifestyle choices. I didn’t mean it, I just said it in frustration. I don’t want money from my parents, I wouldn’t accept it if they offered, but I feel a bit hurt that again my sister is getting money from them for no real reason whereas their generosity wasn’t even offered to me.

AIBU to feel a bit pissed off? Has anyone else been in a similar position and found ways to deal with it?

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Iloveacurry · 26/11/2018 21:17

I would suggest you tell your parents about how you’re paying for the holiday for your nieces, through working over time yourself. Perhaps that might give them something to think about.

Tinkobell · 26/11/2018 21:22

What happens when the day comes when for one reason or another it's hard for them to stump up £200 per month???? This happened to our family. DH's sister was receiving £1000 (!!!!) per month from his parents. FIL has recently had a shock terminal diagnosis and money is now a big a stress for his care. It is us and not DSIL who've had to try and muddle through the finances to ensure that all the bills are covered. I think it's one thing turning to family for one off help or a quick loan but another thing to be tapping off money like that.

NoFucksImAQueen · 26/11/2018 21:38

I'm really sorry op, this thread broke my heart a little bit.
DH has had similar with his mum and SIL but in my experience they're either in denial or lie through their teeth. MIL has been called out on it but denies it and then cries. DH just doesn't bother with them much any more

NoFucksImAQueen · 26/11/2018 21:40

sorry I meant mum and sister not SIL.
I have 3 kids and although I struggle with one I always treat them the same. I can't understand how anyone couldn't

Unicornandbows · 26/11/2018 21:43

Did she say anything else or even try to understand you?

iLoveFoood · 26/11/2018 21:46

Hang on, you have more money/ a better career than her and your parents give her money and you're angry at that?

My mum had a lower paying job than her sisters and struggled a bit more and yes her parents helped her out more cause she needed it Confused

QueenofmyPrinces · 26/11/2018 21:53

I’m angry because it’s been going on for 20 years - them favouring her and throwing money at her since we were teenagers whilst watching me struggle.

I don’t care about the £200 specifically, I just feel hurt that after all this time they are still giving her money to fund her lifestyle. It just brings back the memories of always feeling like I didn’t matter to them in the same wayway that she did.

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QueenofmyPrinces · 26/11/2018 21:55

Did she say anything else or even try to understand you?

She just made comments about how my sister hasn’t had the same opportunities as me and she shouldn’t be punished for that.

I found that odd seeing as we were bought up exactly the same so I’m not sure what opportunities my parents gave me that she didn’t get....

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Ellapaella · 26/11/2018 22:19

I think I'm all honesty you are a grown up now and you need to let this jealousy of your sister go or it will eat you up and destroy your relationship with your parents.
Rightly or wrongly they clearly see you as the capable sensible one and so probably assume you don't need any financial help or support. I suspect deep down they probably feel relieved that you have got on with your life and made a success of your career and relationship.
Your sister is probably a source of anxiety to them and I suspect this is why she seems to get what you view to be 'favouritism' bestowed upon her.
Let it go. Your parents love you and that's all that matters. It really isn't important who gets the most financial support in adulthood. If you can't afford to continue helping your sister out then tell her. She needs to take some responsibility for herself but your parents have failed her really by never allowing her the chance to do it for herself. Sometimes a bit of tough love is essential - being there for emotional support but not always trying to solve someone else's problems for them. It's not your sisters fault they've not taught her these valuable lessons.

NoDancingPolicy · 26/11/2018 22:25

If it helps, so many of us are in the same situation. My dbro was bought a car, given money to buy a house, has photos up all around dm's house (none of me). But I'm the one who is expected to do all the jobs for her.
You can't change their behaviour, you can only change how you respond to it. Decide what your boundaries are and stick to them. Then move on with your life.
There will be a tough period as they all adjust and then things will settle

Imissgmichael · 26/11/2018 22:30

This happened to me. My older sister got everything she asked for even if my parents had to scrimp and save for it. For example I once brought a school letter home about a 3 day hostel trip in the U.K. and was told no to expensive. My sister came home with a letter about a one month long haul tour“ of course darling we will find the money”. I only found out when the last of my parents died that they’d been funding her lazy arse ifestyle for years since she left home. She’ now tries to come to me and I just laugh and tell her to do one.

Momasita · 26/11/2018 22:32

Op this is almost nothing to do with your sister.
. Its your parents who have chosen to give her all this cash.
All you can do is tell them your unhappy about it.

But really you can't blame your sister here.. She isn't forcing your dp to do this

They are choosing to do this for and they are choosing not to do it for you.

Many dp who can give equally to dc whether they need it or not.

Momasita · 26/11/2018 22:34

Op I think yiu need to ask your dp what opportunities and try and have this out with them not her before it's too late.

I can't imagine giving either of my dc unequal amounts and if I did, I would bank the other ones share!

But the buck lies with them. Not her.

Momasita · 26/11/2018 22:42

Op if yiu can't be direct about this maybe some passive aggression would work.
If that's the right phrase.
Dear Ma and pa.. Having my own dc and thinking about the way you have parented dis and I, I was hit by the awful realisation that no matter how talented one is I couldn't treat them differently.

So I'm withdrawing from this situation whilst I come to terms with it.

TBDO · 26/11/2018 22:43

My parents favour my younger brother. I only realised the extent of this a year ago. I always thought I was really close to my mum (that we all were) but looking back on our childhood, I was the one who was always expected to be good and do well and not cause a fuss. When I needed support, I didn’t get it because of course I would cope.

It’s realy changed my relationship with her. My parents are leaving everything to my brother in their will and can’t understand how I might find that hurtful. To me, it’s a final expression of how much less I mean to them than my brother. To them, boys get inheritances, not girls, and it doesn’t matter how it makes me feel.

You’ll probably find that they hide the extent of anything they give her in the future. You’ll be painted as the jealous type, because you’re not conforming to the family view that your sister needs help.

You must focus on your own DC and making sure they never feel second best to your nieces. I suspect they will, because I bet your nieces will be given spending money by the GP whilst yours get nowt.

TBDO · 26/11/2018 22:46

To the PP saying it’s not your sisters fault. She could say to your parents that it feels unfair and refuse to be part of it. Of course she won’t, as there would be less for her.

It’s for her benefit of everyone thinks she needs to be looked after and treated, including you.

Mumoftwoyoungkids · 26/11/2018 23:07

As a lot of people have said we all get labelled in families. My brother is definitely “Poor Fred”.

My parents have given Poor Fred a six figure sum to help him buy his house. They lent me and Dh £3k (and to be fair they said they didn’t want it back and would have lent us more - we did pay them back.) We are going on holiday as a big family next year. Parents are paying for DB, his wife and their child. Me and Dh are paying for us.

Here is how I deal with it:-

  1. Do I want them to give me the same amount of money? Answer - no. We have enough money. And I hate hate hate the idea that I would have to be grateful to my parents. I don’t do grateful. Hate grateful. Would rather walk around with one leg falling off than ask someone for a plaster.
  2. Do I feel like they have given away my inheritance? Answer - no. My mum was only 27 when I was born and we have longevity in our family. It is unlikely that I will see any inheritance until I am in my 70s so I never think about it.
  3. Am I worried about them compromising their own finances to help DB? Answer - no. My mum was an accountant. She has done financial forecasts to ensure she can afford it.
  4. So why does it occasionally bother me? Answer - because deep down I am 7 years old and I am scared that mummy and daddy love dB more than they love me. But I know that isn’t true. And I am 39 now.

Does that make sense?

QueenofmyPrinces · 26/11/2018 23:09

I don’t think she needs to be looked after or treated at all - she’s happily just taking money off our parents, like she has done all her life, and spending it as she pleases.

The opportunities my mother was referring to were most likely that I went to Uni and got a career whereas my sister didn’t. She chose not to bother at school though, she chose to flunk out of two courses at college so I’m not sure how that equates to her deserving financial assistance for the last 20 years to ensure she isn’t punished for the decisions she made.

Maybe I have a different view on life but I think that seeing as she made those decisions then she should accept the consequence of that instead of looking for her life to be supplemented by others.

It makes me laugh that my mom said that my sister shouldn’t be punished for the way her life turned out yet it feels like I’m the one being punished for the way my life turned out.

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Mumoftwoyoungkids · 26/11/2018 23:11

Sorry - pressed submit too soon.

I guess what I am saying is that the money thing diesn’t (normally - I have had the odd “amusing rant” to my friends about it) bother me because I am secure that it isn’t a sign that my parents love me less.

Taking money out if it, do you feel the same or does it feel like money is just the surface of it?

QueenofmyPrinces · 26/11/2018 23:14

Taking money out if it, do you feel the same or does it feel like money is just the surface of it?

I wouldn’t say I feel they love me less, I have never felt like that, but I’ve always felt that she could do no wrong, they excused everything she did, they did anything they could to make her life financially easier whilst pretty much leaving me to just get on with things.

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Mumoftwoyoungkids · 26/11/2018 23:34

but I’ve always felt that she could do no wrong, they excused everything she did

Or maybe they felt she could do no right. Ie they were always expecting her to be a bit useless so the fact that she can’t look after herself even in her late 30s is just her fulfilling their (low) expectations.

My dad told me a gazillion times how “grown up” my brother was at my gran’s funeral a few years ago.

Eventually I said “dad - he’s 31. He has a responsible job. He has a long term partner. Of course he is a grown up.”

But my dad was seriously impressed about the fact that he was:-

  1. Not getting drunk and throwing up on the floor. (He got drunk and threw up on the floor at my wedding but he was a teenager then!)
  2. Nice to my mum and dad.
  3. Sensibly attired.

He didn’t resuscitate any old ladies or valiantly save a child from being run over. He just behaved perfectly normally for a man in his 30s at a funeral.

Tobermory · 26/11/2018 23:44

Sorry this has all come to light OP, you sound like you’re feeling pretty bruised right now.
I guess you need time to process it and figure out your next steps but I can’t imagine how you will be able to move forward without some honest conversations. With your sister? M&D?
Maybe a letter? Or a list... I got : she got of examples over the years to try and illustrate your point.
But I can’t imagine after 20 + years of them financially supporting her, that it will b a quick fix or that they will be able to easily see things from your POV

7yo7yo · 27/11/2018 00:02

This happened to my cousin.
We (outsiders) could all see the disparity between the sisters and knew it was a matter of time before the non supported child blew her top.
It wasn’t just the money it was the time, care and effort. Sibling A was supported and sibling B was considered to be self sufficient.
But it was sibling B who was called upon to run around after the parents and grandparents who all gave money and time to sibling A.
It all kicked off on one of Sibling Bs DC birthdays where all
Of sibling As Dc were bought presents better than those given to the birthday boy (we’re talking games consoles) and the other children of Sibling B got nothing.
She told them all to get out of her house and never return and went Nc.
They still blame her to this day.
And she misses them terribly but says it’s the best thing she did for her own mental health.
We’re all still in touch with both sides but naturally gravitate towards sibling B.
Funny thing is B says she never felt unloved or unwanted, she just felt “less”.

StressedToTheMaxx · 27/11/2018 00:03

OP I am so sorry you are going through this it's really unfair.

What I wanted to point out is- you said you are not taking any money away from your children to fund the holiday as you did overtime. But the children and yourself will have lost quality time together for you to do the overtime.
So to me your children lost something more than money, they lost time with their mummy and to me that would be more hurtful. You lost that time and potentially your sister has as much money as you do.

I think no matter how you try to explain that to your parents and or sister they will never see it.

StressedToTheMaxx · 27/11/2018 00:03

Ps you seem like a lovely lady Flowers

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