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My sister financially benefitting from our parents AGAIN.

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QueenofmyPrinces · 26/11/2018 08:40

There are 13 months between me and my sister so we were very close growing up together and we are still close now, I love her and she’s one of my favourite people to be around.

Growing up we were very different, I was the typical ‘good sensible girl’ whereas she was more the type who took each day as it came and having fun was her main focus. At the time, I was envious of her character and spirit and wished I was more like her.

I did well at school, went to college, then university and have a professional job, whereas she didn’t really try at school, dropped out of two college courses and eventually ended up in a job that our neighbour found for her.

Fast forward to now: we’re in our late 30s and still very close. We both have two children although she is no longer with the father as he turned out to be a complete shit. He’s active in the children’s lives though and he provides well for them financially and helps my sister out too in ways he isn’t obliged to. I don’t particularly like the man but I can’t criticise him for the way he still provides for the children and the things he does to help my sister.

In our teenage years and through our 20’s my sister was frequently financially helped out by our parents because “she didn’t have a well paying job” and they paid out a lot for her. They paid for things to be done around her house (luxuries as opposed to necessities), paid her phone bills and store cards, paid for things for the children and paid for her driving lessons too when she was in her mid 20’s.

At the same time as they were paying for her driving lessons I was having to pay for my own lessons even though I was a student and they were charging me rent, compared to her being in full time employment and not even living in the family home anymore.

I could list lots of ways my sister has financially benefited from our parents over the last 10-15 years and although there has always been potential for resentment because of how differently we were treated I never felt it, or if I did I have no recollection of it and it didn’t impact on my relationship with my sister.

Fast forward to the last 12 months or so and my sister started going out with her friends a lot more, going out frequently for meals and drinks, going away for weekends, having new clothes etc and at the time I thought nothing of it. I was just glad to see her enjoying herself now her children are older (10 and 14) and that she was getting her life back as it were.

Recently me and DH have put ourselves out quite significantly in terms of finances in order to do something to benefit her children in order to allow them to experience something they’d never be able to if me and DH didn’t pay for it. Initially we had spoken about her paying 10% of the cost but after thinking about it I told my sister that no financial contribution was necessary as I was happy to treat my nieces and that I knew every pound counts to her and that even a small contribution would be difficult for her. She said thanks, she appreciated it and that was the end of the discussion.

Anyhow - I found out a few days ago that for the last 12 months my parents have been giving her £200 every month “just in case she needs it” and it’s actually really pissed me off. Our parents are divorced and they each give her £100.

I now feel a little put out that she so readily accepted our offer not to contribute to what we are doing for her children (which is costing us nearly £1k) when she’s getting £200 each month from our parents that she doesn’t actually need.

They (particularly my mom) also give her children money quite frequently whereas mine don’t get anything.

Inside I feel like the “special treatment” of her is still going on after all these years and I think that throughout her life it’s paid off that she didn’t get a good job because my parents have paid out so much for her and still do. I’m also in disbelief that at our age she is still taking money from our parents because as adults shouldn’t we be taking responsibility for ourselves?

I haven’t told my sister that I know about our parents giving her money each month and my parents don’t know that I know either. I won’t say anything to either of them though because it won’t serve any purpose. I only found out due my mom’s brother accidentally letting it slip when he asked me how I was spending my £200 each month as he had assumed my parents were doing it for both of us.

Im just venting. I know it’s my parents choice how they spend their money but after watching them pay out for so much for her over the last two decades this has been a bit of a blow to know they’re still doing it.

I was talking to DH about it and in my frustration I said that I wished I’d made her life choices instead of my own as maybe then my parents would have paid my way in life too and funded my lifestyle choices. I didn’t mean it, I just said it in frustration. I don’t want money from my parents, I wouldn’t accept it if they offered, but I feel a bit hurt that again my sister is getting money from them for no real reason whereas their generosity wasn’t even offered to me.

AIBU to feel a bit pissed off? Has anyone else been in a similar position and found ways to deal with it?

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thecatsthecats · 26/11/2018 11:18

It might be clear to your sister and your parents that they maybe favour you so your sister feels it ok (in a weird way) to accept their help and money as compensation and your parents think it makes up for her being ‘second best’ to them?

This might seem strange to other people, but I get it. I have by far the easiest and warmest relationship (one sister NC, brother barely visits, tempestuous relationship with other sister). I get equal money, certainly, but they are always that bit more desperate with gifts etc to my sister and brother, as if wanting to engineer a proper relationship.

adiposegirl2 · 26/11/2018 11:20

You are a lovely sister (no way would I be doing that for my sisters and we all agree that under the circumstances you described- none of us would be doing that for one another!) but let's be honest you are frustratedly jealous of your sister after your recent discovery.
I suggest you give her no more financial help. Just continue to do kind things for your neices- if you want to... should do from time to time imo. If your parents want to continue to enable her- that's their choice.

millymaid · 26/11/2018 11:21

Of course YANBU. Your parents have lavished money on your sister and not you. That must hurt. Your parents were in the end much, much kinder to you and you're now benefiting from having learned the self reliance and skills to have a successful marriage and career. It's very tempting and gratifying to be the one who steps in and rescues someone with cash or whatever, but it's not necessarily helpful or healthy in the long run.

smatergiesstratergies · 26/11/2018 11:23

I get that too - I think your parents are over compensating your sister for what she didn’t get from the gene pool in a way. I know why you are angry, I’ve felt it, dh has felt it, but now with my own dc I can see where they come from. Our families are different in that there aren’t just intelligence gaps there are mental health condition gaps too so I especially do get it.

Everyone needs help sometimes though and it’s ok to talk about how you feel about that when your parents are wrung out on the other dc.

Wotrewelookinat · 26/11/2018 11:26

My parents favour one of my 3 siblings more than any of the others of us... We’re all adults now, but she is lazy and plays up anxiety issues so that she ‘can’t work’. They pay for all sorts for her...she lives with them, drives their car, goes out in London a lot, has gym membership. It’s endless. My other sister and brother and I try very hard to focus on our own lives, be grateful that we have broken away from my mothers ridiculous enabling behaviour, feel proud that we can pay our own way etc., but it has definitely affected our relationship with our parents and how often we see them. I think we’ve just learnt to put up a wall to stop being hurt any more.

IrmaFayLear · 26/11/2018 11:30

I think a lot of us (and many hundreds of thousands out there in the real world) can really relate to this problem.

Being capable and standing on your own two feet seem to result in parents refocusing all their attention on the little bird still sitting in the nest with their beak open, no matter that the bird has their own quite decent nest and plenty of worms of their own.

And people believe what you tell them. If someone is drip, drip, drip about having no money and woe is me, parents tend to take their word for it, no matter what the contrary evidence.

As I and many others have said, it's not always a question of favourites. I think dm much preferred me as a person but felt her duty was to dsis.

senua · 26/11/2018 11:39

Fast forward to the last 12 months or so and my sister started going out with her friends a lot more, going out frequently for meals and drinks, going away for weekends
Are you included in this social whirl? Does DSis ever spend money on you?
It seems to me that your family equate money and love, which is not a healthy dynamic.

hailstone1 · 26/11/2018 11:47

I think in this situation, on a day I was due to visit, I'd phone my parents and say that I was to tired to visit them as I'd been doing overtime to pay for my sister's children to go away with us. Maybe they might start to see a different side?

LizzieBennettDarcy · 26/11/2018 11:57

My mum and sister have a very toxic needy relationship with each other. They've gone on holidays that I've been excluded from, and I'm just the outsider. It's taken me years not to care, and at some points it's been really hard to deal with.

Mum has run her own business for the last 20 odd years, at one stage my sister and I were both working there too. But sister was very much "The Boss" and Mum allowed her to be. I didn't realise at the time that Mum had signed over half the business to her, never offering me a share. After several years of belittling and bullying by my sister, I told them both to get stuffed and that was a real lightbulb moment for me.

I now realise that I'm actually the lucky one as I've built my own life, and have an amazing DH and children/grandchildren. My sister chose not to have children, left her partner for a conman and is now living in a shithole period property that said conman was supposedly renovating. My sister boasts that she's restoring the building for the future generation. Financed by Mum, who got a massive PPI payout on some business loans.... and all went straight to my sister.

I do have a relationship of sorts with Mum but it's from a distance, and my sister and I have been NC for several years. It's a breath of fresh air.

QueenofmyPrinces · 26/11/2018 12:06

“Fast forward to the last 12 months or so and my sister started going out with her friends a lot more, going out frequently for meals and drinks, going away for weekends....”

Are you included in this social whirl?

No, they are her friends from work.

I just realised I didn’t get a birthday present off her this year. I didn’t see her on my birthday so didn’t actually click at the time.

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QueenofmyPrinces · 26/11/2018 12:06

I’m going to have to say something to them all aren’t I Sad

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HumphreyCobblers · 26/11/2018 12:13

I am so sorry QueenofmyPrinces, this is such a horrible thing for you to have to confront.

I think I would have to bring it up.

Unicornandbows · 26/11/2018 12:14

I think you should speak to your parents this isn't right.

Hannnnnnnxo · 26/11/2018 12:14

Sorry but you’re both how old now? Her financial assistance is unfair compared to your lack of, but I don’t think your parents are going to change at this point. Realistically they’re not going to give you back payments for all the years that they gave her more money than you - in fact going forward, they’re probably not going to even help you out more than they have been already.

I know it’s mean and unfair on you, but I think you’re hurting your feelings more by fixating on this. If you don’t like the way that you family treats you/your kids, it might be time to distance yourself to protect your emotional well being

Amazonian27 · 26/11/2018 12:21

Yes, but don’t expect it to change anything but for your own sanity and piece of mind. It might be better to do it face to face with them all.
We can’t really afford the cost if taking kids cousins on holiday and as X seems to have landed on her feet has plenty of money for socialising goes out far more than I/we do and I have also heard you are also subbing her lifestyle choices. I think it’s only fair that we re think the holiday in terms of X has money for socialising she stump up
Y towards the cost of her kids coming away with us as she is also benefitting by getting a week or two weeks to herself to party away from her DC and any parental responsibility whilst we are away with and paying for her DC to go on holiday with us.

QueenofmyPrinces · 26/11/2018 12:24

If I do say something though I know I will just be labelled as having a tantrum and throwing my toys out of the pram etc and I can’t see how that will do any good.

This is just the latest in a very, very long line of watching my sister be given money and be financially helped (as well as practically) so much by our parents when I’ve had nothing of the sort.

I guess I had let all the frustration of it happening throughout our teens and during our 20’s be buried because I thought the favouritism was behind us but clearly not. Not they anyone is obliged to divulge their spending habits but now I can’t help but wonder what else they’ve been financing over the last decade.

We are late 30s.

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senua · 26/11/2018 12:33

This is just the latest in a very, very long line of watching my sister be given money and be financially helped (as well as practically) so much by our parents when I’ve had nothing of the sort.
So what on earth possessed you to offer the holiday? First 10% then 100% of the cost.
You are in an awkward position now because if you withdraw something that you freely offered then you look bad. I suggest that you start the debate about spending money and see if anyone will put their hand in their pocket for any part of this holiday. If the DGP pay for nieces' spends then ask for the same for your DC, too.

QueenofmyPrinces · 26/11/2018 12:48

So what on earth possessed you to offer the holiday?

Because I wanted to do something special for my nieces. Why is that such a bad thing?

I hadn’t even considered what would happen if our parents gave her children spending money but nothing to our children. Mind you, even if they did give spending money to my nieces I wouldn’t know about it as my sister would say it was her money anyway.

I’m supposed to be seeing my sister tomorrow but I actually don’t think I can face it now.

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AFOLNerd · 26/11/2018 12:53

I have a similar situation with my older brother, he has never quite sorted his life out and always seems to be short of money and my mum keeps baling him out with credit cards etc. where as I have worked hard and lived within my means. I feel he takes advantage of her and It’s really affected my relationship with my brother

My mum sat me down a couple of years ago and explained that she hates how differently we have been treated and there is a file in which she has recorded every amount she has loaned to my brother over the years and that if something happens to her I am to take it to the solicitors and make sure it is taken of his side of the inheritance.

I’m not sure it’s going to stand up legally if he disputes it but it made a difference to me just knowing that she wants to put it right.

smatergiesstratergies · 26/11/2018 12:57

I don’t think it’s bad to bring it up with your p but I wouldnt get my hopes up about resolution - that only happens in tv dramas ime, it’s to your credit that you’ve got a good relationship with p and sister/dn. You could end up feeling more resentful after trying to resolve things and it’s bad for you to feel that way.

Another way to think about it, is that your sister won’t take your nieces on a holiday, even though she has enough money - so whatever we might feel about her priorities, they are what they are and you are still doing a nice thing for your nieces who wouldn’t get the opportunity otherwise.

Bloomcounty · 26/11/2018 13:00

I'm going to sound really harsh here, but you're actually perpetuating the pattern, if you and your family are going without something, or tightening your belts, in order to spend money on her children.

Your kids are potentially doing without, in order to give someone else a "treat". Not a basic, not a food parcel, or a school uniform. A luxury. A treat. I bet that makes your kids feel as valued as you feel to your parents. Do you really want the pattern to continue?

Think about it. It's exactly what your parents are doing with your sister and you. You can't control what your parents do with their money, but you have total control over your own spending. Who is more important? Your own family, or hers?

HermioneWeasley · 26/11/2018 13:03

The situation is grossly unfair. My DP is in a similar situation. I don’t know what you can say though. No more subsidising your sister or nieces from you in future though.

rookiemere · 26/11/2018 13:04

If bringing it up will bring you distress then don't.

Ultimately you can only change your own behaviour, not those of others. I'd try to withdraw from the dynamic or change it where you can. So I wonder what the arrangements are around Christmas and gifts for example. Cut right back on what you do - neither your DPs nor your DSis appreciates it.

For this holiday I agree with smarterstrategies. You offered to take them and you're doing a nice thing taking them abroad and it sounds like they will get on well with your DCs.

Grace212 · 26/11/2018 13:04

OP "I’m going to have to say something to them all aren’t I"

I really think so. Also, better it comes out in a planned way really.

also possible that the person who let it slip will say something?

senua · 26/11/2018 13:07

Q: So what on earth possessed you to offer the holiday?
A: Because I wanted to do something special for my nieces. Why is that such a bad thing?

Before you confront your family about their attitudes to money I think you need to look at your own attitudes.
Why do you think that your nieces' "something special" is your responsibility. Why did it have to be such an extravagant gesture, and one that you can't really afford? Why are you complaining about DP giving DSis money when you are doing the exact same thing? Have you been trying to buy your DSis's and now your DNs' love? What do you (and your DH and DC) get in return?
When you confront your family, what are you hoping to achieve?

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