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My sister financially benefitting from our parents AGAIN.

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QueenofmyPrinces · 26/11/2018 08:40

There are 13 months between me and my sister so we were very close growing up together and we are still close now, I love her and she’s one of my favourite people to be around.

Growing up we were very different, I was the typical ‘good sensible girl’ whereas she was more the type who took each day as it came and having fun was her main focus. At the time, I was envious of her character and spirit and wished I was more like her.

I did well at school, went to college, then university and have a professional job, whereas she didn’t really try at school, dropped out of two college courses and eventually ended up in a job that our neighbour found for her.

Fast forward to now: we’re in our late 30s and still very close. We both have two children although she is no longer with the father as he turned out to be a complete shit. He’s active in the children’s lives though and he provides well for them financially and helps my sister out too in ways he isn’t obliged to. I don’t particularly like the man but I can’t criticise him for the way he still provides for the children and the things he does to help my sister.

In our teenage years and through our 20’s my sister was frequently financially helped out by our parents because “she didn’t have a well paying job” and they paid out a lot for her. They paid for things to be done around her house (luxuries as opposed to necessities), paid her phone bills and store cards, paid for things for the children and paid for her driving lessons too when she was in her mid 20’s.

At the same time as they were paying for her driving lessons I was having to pay for my own lessons even though I was a student and they were charging me rent, compared to her being in full time employment and not even living in the family home anymore.

I could list lots of ways my sister has financially benefited from our parents over the last 10-15 years and although there has always been potential for resentment because of how differently we were treated I never felt it, or if I did I have no recollection of it and it didn’t impact on my relationship with my sister.

Fast forward to the last 12 months or so and my sister started going out with her friends a lot more, going out frequently for meals and drinks, going away for weekends, having new clothes etc and at the time I thought nothing of it. I was just glad to see her enjoying herself now her children are older (10 and 14) and that she was getting her life back as it were.

Recently me and DH have put ourselves out quite significantly in terms of finances in order to do something to benefit her children in order to allow them to experience something they’d never be able to if me and DH didn’t pay for it. Initially we had spoken about her paying 10% of the cost but after thinking about it I told my sister that no financial contribution was necessary as I was happy to treat my nieces and that I knew every pound counts to her and that even a small contribution would be difficult for her. She said thanks, she appreciated it and that was the end of the discussion.

Anyhow - I found out a few days ago that for the last 12 months my parents have been giving her £200 every month “just in case she needs it” and it’s actually really pissed me off. Our parents are divorced and they each give her £100.

I now feel a little put out that she so readily accepted our offer not to contribute to what we are doing for her children (which is costing us nearly £1k) when she’s getting £200 each month from our parents that she doesn’t actually need.

They (particularly my mom) also give her children money quite frequently whereas mine don’t get anything.

Inside I feel like the “special treatment” of her is still going on after all these years and I think that throughout her life it’s paid off that she didn’t get a good job because my parents have paid out so much for her and still do. I’m also in disbelief that at our age she is still taking money from our parents because as adults shouldn’t we be taking responsibility for ourselves?

I haven’t told my sister that I know about our parents giving her money each month and my parents don’t know that I know either. I won’t say anything to either of them though because it won’t serve any purpose. I only found out due my mom’s brother accidentally letting it slip when he asked me how I was spending my £200 each month as he had assumed my parents were doing it for both of us.

Im just venting. I know it’s my parents choice how they spend their money but after watching them pay out for so much for her over the last two decades this has been a bit of a blow to know they’re still doing it.

I was talking to DH about it and in my frustration I said that I wished I’d made her life choices instead of my own as maybe then my parents would have paid my way in life too and funded my lifestyle choices. I didn’t mean it, I just said it in frustration. I don’t want money from my parents, I wouldn’t accept it if they offered, but I feel a bit hurt that again my sister is getting money from them for no real reason whereas their generosity wasn’t even offered to me.

AIBU to feel a bit pissed off? Has anyone else been in a similar position and found ways to deal with it?

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woollyheart · 01/12/2018 15:27

When you do talk to your mother, it is worth pointing out that the only reason that you agreed to speak to your sister and father is because they agreed that they would listen and try to see things from your point of view.

If they had just said that you were ridiculous, you wouldn't have spoken to them either.

Mix56 · 01/12/2018 15:36

Who said you were scapegoating her ?
It sounds like both your father & sister have been reporting back. But both of them said this was initiated by her.
You have tried to talk to her. She effectively "poo pooed" it. "Oh why are you bringing it up now" read back to what you wrote.
She still hasn't even considered any introspection,
the best form of defence is attack.
Take your time, enjoy your day out.

RandomMess · 01/12/2018 15:40

Hmmmmm

"When I tried to talk you denied my feelings were valid and shut down the conversation. If you are willing to listen and hear what I have to say about how I feel then of course I am willing to talk."

Graphista · 01/12/2018 16:07

Hmm yea I can see your mum making this really difficult for you.

You're not scapegoating her that is manipulative of her saying so, it's pointless talking to her unless she's going to actually listen.

Speak to her when you're up to it and if she pulls more manipulative crap end the conversation, I suspect I'm not the only one thinking she's the main problem.

Mumoftwoyoungkids · 01/12/2018 16:10

"When I tried to talk you denied my feelings were valid and shut down the conversation. If you are willing to listen and hear what I have to say about how I feel then of course I am willing to talk."

This is good.

Can I just say thanks for starting this thread. It has given me some “food for thought” about my own parents.

AcrossthePond55 · 01/12/2018 17:08

Random's message is perfect.

And you have the absolute right to speak to your mother only when you are ready to do so.

Princesspeachy0 · 01/12/2018 17:29
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TheDowagerCuntess · 01/12/2018 17:33

The conversation with your mother is likely to be the least cathartic. In fact, you're almost certainly likely to come away from it feeling much worse about things, unlike the conversations you've had with your Dad and sister.

It's probably worth preparing yourself for that.

Silkie2 · 01/12/2018 17:33

I feel sorry for your DM in a way. I know her accusation of scapegoating was wrong but how would you ever reconcile yourself with abandoning your DCs as babies, then spending the next 30 years compensating one of them with financial bungs, and the other with praise for success (although voiced to others). She must have a lot of guilt over it all but probably isn't able to face it.

madmum5811 · 01/12/2018 17:35

I do not think you should talk to your Mother until your sister has had a chance to have a good think and talk to you again next week. Anything you say could be misinterpreted (cough) and relayed to your sister. There is no rush, you have waited this long to start a dialogue with your sister.

One problem at a time.

RandomMess · 01/12/2018 17:36

You could add on the end " regardless of what has happened I love you all very much and hope things can be different moving forwards for both DSIS and I"

QueenofmyPrinces · 01/12/2018 21:36

silkie - I also feel sorry for my mom because she’s clearly got a lot of pain/guilt inside of her that she’s never dealt with and it’s infiltrated her life

I’ve not long got home from a very busy day and when I came home I text her to say I wasn’t scapegoating her but I just hadn’t wanted to talk to her because she’d been so dismissive of my feelings the other day.

As many of you have said, I don’t think anything positive is going to come from talking to my mom and I just want to put her on the back burner for a while whilst I try and figure things out with my sister.

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ThanosSavedMe · 02/12/2018 13:21

I’m glad that you’re talking to your family. You were definitely not being unreasonable but you’re handling it all so well. It sounds like you and your sister will get over this and possibly have a stronger relationship. It also sounds like your dad is willing to accept his part in all this and you’re able to acknowledge that none of it was done maliciously low. Hopefully your mum will come round soon. Good luck with it all

Yulebealrite · 02/12/2018 14:11

You could add on the end " regardless of what has happened I love you all very much and hope things can be different moving forwards for both DSIS and I"
Either text or say this sentiment as it may make her less defensive.

sansou · 02/12/2018 19:29

DH's sibling wants to move to a larger house. She is currently living in a property bought outright with gifted money from MIL. None of her siblings received anything and there is huge resentment underlying all their interactions in the last few years. The issue is that we all know that she earns not a lot due to a PT job and even with the most generous of salary multiples, there is obviously a shortfall of £50K. Somehow, the purchase is going through. DH doesn't even want to challenge the obvious that MIL is gifting the extra amount if not more. It's shit because unlike last time, they kept it quiet but we're not stupid.... All in, it's a cool £250K over the last few years that we're aware of.

sansou · 02/12/2018 19:37

OP - Have a week to process it all and consider whether the fact that it's now all out in the open (as far as you know) makes you feel better or not.

For DH, it's not better because nothing has changed. BIL (another unfavoured sibling) is currrently mad with MIL because she chose to dogsit a new puppy for the golden child over babysitting his DC, her GC! It's hard to watch and not say anything. Resigned acceptance that she won't change is his way to cope as well as seeing/visiting her less. Not really the answer but for us, confrontation didn't change a thing!

BlackberryandNettle · 02/12/2018 22:02

Sorry I haven't read the full thread but maybe will later. Just wanted to add to the list of people saying this happens in my family too! Actually I know several friends with versions of this in their families - a less capable sibling being given handouts on an ongoing basis and the 'poor sib' narrative, the apparently more capable one being left to fend for themself regardless of circumstance. Over the last few years, my db has had (that I know of) the profit from sale of a vintage car my parents no longer used, a car to keep as they wanted to upgrade, a holiday paid for and been offered ownership of a flat they are selling.

Unicornandbows · 05/12/2018 18:01

I hope you are well op and staying strong x

QueenofmyPrinces · 05/12/2018 20:29

Hi unicorn,

I’m not doing too bad. Me and my sister are still talking about how we viewed our childhoods and if anything it’s bringing us closer because we are now seeing a vulnerable side to each other that we didn’t know existed.

My dad is pretty much keeping quiet - he’s asks me if me and my sister are managing to work it out and how I’m feeling about all the revelations etc but otherwise he doesn’t really mention it.

And as for my mom - well. She’s still angry that I’ve “caused so much trouble for the family” and what was I hoping to achieve by bringing all this up. Apparently I should be grateful for the way I was bought up and that seeing as I turned out well (her words) then she really doesn’t see what my problem is.

I’ve told her that if she was actually prepared to listen to me and my sister then maybe she would see what the problem is but she’s too angry to hear me. She’s also ranting about my “ungrateful” sister and how after everything they’ve done for her she’s got some cheek to start siding with me (her words) and is now threatening stop her £100 seeing as “she’s shown who are priorities lie with” (me).

So yes, it’s all a bit of a mess regarding my mom but otherwise it’s going ok and I’m just relieved that me and my sister can hopefully come through this as stronger people.

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RandomMess · 05/12/2018 20:37

Glad it's going ok and really sad I was right about it all being your Mum's issues...

She's been playing at divide and conquer and recreating the sisterhood dynamic she had - probably mostly subconsciously but the secret £200 does show that she was aware what she was doing wasn't ok.

OhLookHeKickedTheBall · 05/12/2018 20:48

She’s also ranting about my “ungrateful” sister and how after everything they’ve done for her she’s got some cheek to start siding with me (her words) and is now threatening stop her £100 seeing as “she’s shown who are priorities lie with” (me).

Sounds like she's been trying to buy your sister's affections. Or using money as a form of control on her.

However I'm glad you and your sister are getting closer thanks to this.

Unicornandbows · 05/12/2018 20:55

I'm glad to hear that you and your sister and dad are able to move forward together. Your mum on the other hand is probably caught up with her own guilt and doesn't want to acknowledge it. Time is a great healer and hopefully you and your family can eventually move forward with your mum included. Am actually glad your sister has not been spiteful and has actually been there her actions might have been off key but she's made the effort to build the relationship which is the best outcome.

Wish you all the best x

MotherOfDragonite · 05/12/2018 22:41

I'm glad you've got so much positive stuff from it. To be honest, it even feels as if your conflict with your mum is positive in that it forces this stuff out into the open so it can be dealt with, potentially.

FilthyforFirth · 06/12/2018 12:13

I didnt think your mum would take it well. What has your sister been saying to her?

Glad to hear things are ok otherwise. I've said it before but this has been a masterclass in how to handle something like this. Far more diplomatic than I could ever hope to be!

Mix56 · 06/12/2018 12:33

and is now threatening stop her £100 but still no thought to give you the same. She really thinks this £100 is giving her the right to make DSIS "take sides", but why are there "sides" to take. You ought to be a communal entity where everyone is loved & treated equally.
I'm glad that the cat is out for the bag & you & sis are able to talk !

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