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My sister financially benefitting from our parents AGAIN.

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QueenofmyPrinces · 26/11/2018 08:40

There are 13 months between me and my sister so we were very close growing up together and we are still close now, I love her and she’s one of my favourite people to be around.

Growing up we were very different, I was the typical ‘good sensible girl’ whereas she was more the type who took each day as it came and having fun was her main focus. At the time, I was envious of her character and spirit and wished I was more like her.

I did well at school, went to college, then university and have a professional job, whereas she didn’t really try at school, dropped out of two college courses and eventually ended up in a job that our neighbour found for her.

Fast forward to now: we’re in our late 30s and still very close. We both have two children although she is no longer with the father as he turned out to be a complete shit. He’s active in the children’s lives though and he provides well for them financially and helps my sister out too in ways he isn’t obliged to. I don’t particularly like the man but I can’t criticise him for the way he still provides for the children and the things he does to help my sister.

In our teenage years and through our 20’s my sister was frequently financially helped out by our parents because “she didn’t have a well paying job” and they paid out a lot for her. They paid for things to be done around her house (luxuries as opposed to necessities), paid her phone bills and store cards, paid for things for the children and paid for her driving lessons too when she was in her mid 20’s.

At the same time as they were paying for her driving lessons I was having to pay for my own lessons even though I was a student and they were charging me rent, compared to her being in full time employment and not even living in the family home anymore.

I could list lots of ways my sister has financially benefited from our parents over the last 10-15 years and although there has always been potential for resentment because of how differently we were treated I never felt it, or if I did I have no recollection of it and it didn’t impact on my relationship with my sister.

Fast forward to the last 12 months or so and my sister started going out with her friends a lot more, going out frequently for meals and drinks, going away for weekends, having new clothes etc and at the time I thought nothing of it. I was just glad to see her enjoying herself now her children are older (10 and 14) and that she was getting her life back as it were.

Recently me and DH have put ourselves out quite significantly in terms of finances in order to do something to benefit her children in order to allow them to experience something they’d never be able to if me and DH didn’t pay for it. Initially we had spoken about her paying 10% of the cost but after thinking about it I told my sister that no financial contribution was necessary as I was happy to treat my nieces and that I knew every pound counts to her and that even a small contribution would be difficult for her. She said thanks, she appreciated it and that was the end of the discussion.

Anyhow - I found out a few days ago that for the last 12 months my parents have been giving her £200 every month “just in case she needs it” and it’s actually really pissed me off. Our parents are divorced and they each give her £100.

I now feel a little put out that she so readily accepted our offer not to contribute to what we are doing for her children (which is costing us nearly £1k) when she’s getting £200 each month from our parents that she doesn’t actually need.

They (particularly my mom) also give her children money quite frequently whereas mine don’t get anything.

Inside I feel like the “special treatment” of her is still going on after all these years and I think that throughout her life it’s paid off that she didn’t get a good job because my parents have paid out so much for her and still do. I’m also in disbelief that at our age she is still taking money from our parents because as adults shouldn’t we be taking responsibility for ourselves?

I haven’t told my sister that I know about our parents giving her money each month and my parents don’t know that I know either. I won’t say anything to either of them though because it won’t serve any purpose. I only found out due my mom’s brother accidentally letting it slip when he asked me how I was spending my £200 each month as he had assumed my parents were doing it for both of us.

Im just venting. I know it’s my parents choice how they spend their money but after watching them pay out for so much for her over the last two decades this has been a bit of a blow to know they’re still doing it.

I was talking to DH about it and in my frustration I said that I wished I’d made her life choices instead of my own as maybe then my parents would have paid my way in life too and funded my lifestyle choices. I didn’t mean it, I just said it in frustration. I don’t want money from my parents, I wouldn’t accept it if they offered, but I feel a bit hurt that again my sister is getting money from them for no real reason whereas their generosity wasn’t even offered to me.

AIBU to feel a bit pissed off? Has anyone else been in a similar position and found ways to deal with it?

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Unicornandbows · 30/11/2018 13:38

Op if she doesn't see she has done any wrong doing then it's pretty pointless in getting her to understand. She may of had several issues etc but does not give her the right to single you out completely. She left you at 3 months old, she doesn't want to help your children out, you have been an after thought through out unless you are needed to help them with important stuff. She got pnd after you were born has this actually gone? Does she even think of you as her child or has she got some hidden resentment towards you? I don't feel sorry for her as she has had years to deal with her own past and current situation and blatent favouritism is the outcome of all her past. She doesn't have that inner feeling to want to care for you the way she feels if her older daughter was upset or struggling.

Your sister saying to your parents they prefer you sounds like jealousy and she may actually have resentment towards you achieving x y z.

7yo7yo · 30/11/2018 13:38

You need to start valuing yourself and your Dc.
What an awful set of dynamics for them to see/feel when they are older.
And sorry to be brutal op, you need to stop making excuses for your mum.

WomanWithAltitude · 30/11/2018 13:46

I think it's certainly possible to distance yourself without going NC, or even close. If you always have to drive to see them, then just start doing it less often. If they really want to see you, they'll need to make a reciprocal effort (not all the time, but at least some of the time). Next time they ask you to do them a favour, only do it if it is genuinely no trouble to you to do so.

I get the impression you are so eager to be accepted and liked that you have allowed them to take you for granted. Ignoring your needs and watching while you make all the effort has become so normalised that they haven't even noticed they were doing it.

QueenofmyPrinces · 30/11/2018 13:49

I guess what it comes down to is do I think that all this is worth losing my family over? And no, I don’t. I think it’s at least worth trying to fix anyway. If nothing changes then fair enough, walking away may be the only option but as things stand now I want us all to try and find a way to move on from this. I can’t either let this eat me up inside and damage
my family relationships or I can accept that it is what it is, my parents messed up and there’s nothing we can do about it except try and move forwards as a family to try and repair things.

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YearOfYouRemember · 30/11/2018 13:57

Queen I think Pebbles was saying you haven't been ridiculous or petty.

I've looked and can't see that Pebbles has answered you.

Treesthemovie · 30/11/2018 13:59

The thing is though they are happy with the set up just now and you’re not, so why would they want to move forward and change? It’s not necessarily about cutting them off but stepping back a bit emotionally and putting your focus on the people that put you first, instead of trying to win over the ones who don’t. However you’re the one that knows the dynamic completely.

QueenofmyPrinces · 30/11/2018 14:07

instead of trying to win over the ones who don’t. However you’re the one that knows the dynamic completely.

I do feel like some progress has been made with my dad even if it is just baby steps for now.

As for my sister - I guess until I speak to her tonight I don’t know if we can salvage things. On one hand I’m really worried about what she’s going to say in case it completely destroys the way I feel about her, but on the other hand I have to know what her motives were and how she felt about our childhood etc.

Perhaps things can’t change with my mom but if there’s any hope of moving on in terms of my dad and my sister then I am happy to just focus on repairing bridges with them for now. With regards to my mom, I guess I will have to wait for to come to me when she’s ready to acknowledge the harm she’s caused.

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Treesthemovie · 30/11/2018 14:27

Hopefully they’re able to see the way they’ve behaved has hurt you and make some changes. I might be wrong but I feel like getting them to change and be more fair is important for you to feel you can accept yourself.
Sadly we don’t always get the family that would would hope for and you’ve done well for yourself without a lot of help or support from them. Although they might have made you feel shitty growing up, your adult life doesn’t have to be about putting their feelings or needs first.

Holstenlane · 30/11/2018 14:58

With your sister tonight, don't be afraid of telling her how you feel and don't start doing the "maybe you're right, I've got it lucky" agreements when she starts saying that your life is better than hers and she needs their help. She had the same chances as you, but she wasted them. That was her choice. Remind her of that everytime she tries to blame you because you have a better life.

Mix56 · 30/11/2018 15:12

I expect she will say they always preferred you because you had good results, you were less demanding.
But it was by the sweat of your own brow

ssd · 30/11/2018 15:37

op, you are scared to get angry aren't you, in case they draw even closer and shut you out, further than you feel shut out just now

I think you need to withdraw a bit more from the situation, to really see things in perspective

you are twisting yourself in knots trying to be decent and civil, when you've been treated so badly and hurt so much by the people supposed to be on your side

its ok to be angry and furious and pissed off and its ok for your sister to see you as you really feel, not as the coper and enabler and the good one

Wallywobbles · 30/11/2018 17:15

I think if you ever find a really good counselor it would be worth unpacking all this to stop it being passed on to the next generation.

But you know what it's ok to be jealous sometimes. It's a natural response to favoritism.

senua · 30/11/2018 17:19

Good luck for tonight. Hope it goes well.

QueenofmyPrinces · 30/11/2018 17:28

I did feel angry when I first found out about the money and the secrecy but now I feel a lot calmer. My conversation with my dad last night has released two decades of weight from my shoulders. Now I’ve spoken out about how I’ve felt all these years and to have him acknowledge that my feelings are valid has made me feel so much lighter. I feel like years and years and years of worry, anxiety, sadness and confusion have all dissolved away and I feel a little empowered by it. I’m upset about everything that’s gone on for the last 20 years but now that it’s all out in the open (kind of) I don’t feel angry and I just feel relieved.

I’m meeting my sister at 7.30, we are going out for something to eat at the restaurant we always go to together when we have a catch up. I didn’t want to go to hers because my nieces are both there so I figured out favourite haunt was the best option.

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Yulebealrite · 30/11/2018 17:36

I think you can say to your sister that you understand how things evolved the way they did and that you understand that things were perhaps done with the best of intentions and the reasons why she and your parents feel like they do, however can she in turn understand how you feel. How by them overcompensating for her, that you feel that you and your needs are totally unimportant. An unintentional side effect, but a side effect none the less. A bit of mutual empathising rather than accusations and defensiveness.

Good luck tonight.

DishingOutDone · 30/11/2018 17:36

Are you paying OP?! Sad

RedDogsBeg · 30/11/2018 18:04

I don't think posters are advising you to lose your family over it just to emotionally distance yourself a bit in order to protect you and your children.

You know what's happened is unfair and wrong, your dad has acknowledged this but doesn't seem to be willing or able to redress the balance, maybe I am wrong and he will change the way he interacts with you and offer you help or when you ask for help will do so without placing conditions on that help. Your mum, even if she won't admit it, knows deep down that they have been unfair and wrong but as she will never acknowledge that there is no way she will ever emotionally, physically or financially make any effort to redress the balance.

You have no way of predicting how your sister will be, but as she wants to meet you and has wanted to talk to you ever since this all came out I am going to hazard a guess that she doesn't want it to drive a wedge between you and I hope I am right. Good luck with meeting her and I hope it goes the way you want it to but don't be afraid to be truthful with her about how this has made you feel, particularly the deceit, and how would she feel in your shoes?

I am sure that you feel the weight has been lifted because it is now all out in the open, your parents and your sister know you are no longer prepared to be duped and cannot deny they know how you feel.

You've brought it out, you've talked (will talk to your sister) you can now decide how you want to move on as best suits you.

Amazonian27 · 30/11/2018 18:13

GreenTulips - I could well be nice to know we’re not alone.

Amazonian27 · 30/11/2018 18:18

OP
My mum always favours my feckless younger sister and also favours her daughter my niece who is her eldest grandchild. She even openly says well the first grandchild is always the favourite and most important. It’s Bizarre how family favourites and dynamics work.

Mix56 · 30/11/2018 18:40

Queen this is exactly what you should say to your Sister,
I feel like years and years and years of worry, anxiety, sadness and confusion have all dissolved away ..... I’m upset about everything that’s gone on for the last 20 years
20 years of confusion, & incomprehension, & dying for some kind of sign that you matter.

Sis will say:
"Oh come off it Queen, you've got lots of money, You don't need any help,
they were always raving about your school results.......
Missing the point probably

QueenofmyPrinces · 30/11/2018 18:49

Are you paying OP?!

Whenever we go we always pay for our own starters and main meal but I buy the desserts and a bottle of wine. It’s been like that forever. It won’t be tonight though!

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RedDogsBeg · 30/11/2018 18:59

I am secretly hoping your sister has the grace to pay for everything just this once, OP.

Mumoftwoyoungkids · 30/11/2018 19:02

Here is what you need to say.

“As you know I have two very young children and I am exhausted and struggle to keep going. In order to pay for Nieces’ holiday I took on a number of 12 hour overtime shifts. That is time I could have spent with my children. Or my husband. Or just catching up on sleep. And now it turns out you could have easily afforded to pay the very small fraction that we asked you to pay but you didn’t because you were worried I would find out your lies. I could have done less shifts if you had. I love you very much but I struggle to see how you can possibly love me at all if you can do that.”

Mix56 · 30/11/2018 19:40

Good God. Speechless Queen. (re the wine & desert.)

Quantumblue · 30/11/2018 19:58

Am so glad your talk with your dad has helped how you feel. You sound like such a lovely thoughtful family member. I am sure that all this crappy stuff is not going to trickle down to your dc. Hope the talk with your sister goes ok

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