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My sister financially benefitting from our parents AGAIN.

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QueenofmyPrinces · 26/11/2018 08:40

There are 13 months between me and my sister so we were very close growing up together and we are still close now, I love her and she’s one of my favourite people to be around.

Growing up we were very different, I was the typical ‘good sensible girl’ whereas she was more the type who took each day as it came and having fun was her main focus. At the time, I was envious of her character and spirit and wished I was more like her.

I did well at school, went to college, then university and have a professional job, whereas she didn’t really try at school, dropped out of two college courses and eventually ended up in a job that our neighbour found for her.

Fast forward to now: we’re in our late 30s and still very close. We both have two children although she is no longer with the father as he turned out to be a complete shit. He’s active in the children’s lives though and he provides well for them financially and helps my sister out too in ways he isn’t obliged to. I don’t particularly like the man but I can’t criticise him for the way he still provides for the children and the things he does to help my sister.

In our teenage years and through our 20’s my sister was frequently financially helped out by our parents because “she didn’t have a well paying job” and they paid out a lot for her. They paid for things to be done around her house (luxuries as opposed to necessities), paid her phone bills and store cards, paid for things for the children and paid for her driving lessons too when she was in her mid 20’s.

At the same time as they were paying for her driving lessons I was having to pay for my own lessons even though I was a student and they were charging me rent, compared to her being in full time employment and not even living in the family home anymore.

I could list lots of ways my sister has financially benefited from our parents over the last 10-15 years and although there has always been potential for resentment because of how differently we were treated I never felt it, or if I did I have no recollection of it and it didn’t impact on my relationship with my sister.

Fast forward to the last 12 months or so and my sister started going out with her friends a lot more, going out frequently for meals and drinks, going away for weekends, having new clothes etc and at the time I thought nothing of it. I was just glad to see her enjoying herself now her children are older (10 and 14) and that she was getting her life back as it were.

Recently me and DH have put ourselves out quite significantly in terms of finances in order to do something to benefit her children in order to allow them to experience something they’d never be able to if me and DH didn’t pay for it. Initially we had spoken about her paying 10% of the cost but after thinking about it I told my sister that no financial contribution was necessary as I was happy to treat my nieces and that I knew every pound counts to her and that even a small contribution would be difficult for her. She said thanks, she appreciated it and that was the end of the discussion.

Anyhow - I found out a few days ago that for the last 12 months my parents have been giving her £200 every month “just in case she needs it” and it’s actually really pissed me off. Our parents are divorced and they each give her £100.

I now feel a little put out that she so readily accepted our offer not to contribute to what we are doing for her children (which is costing us nearly £1k) when she’s getting £200 each month from our parents that she doesn’t actually need.

They (particularly my mom) also give her children money quite frequently whereas mine don’t get anything.

Inside I feel like the “special treatment” of her is still going on after all these years and I think that throughout her life it’s paid off that she didn’t get a good job because my parents have paid out so much for her and still do. I’m also in disbelief that at our age she is still taking money from our parents because as adults shouldn’t we be taking responsibility for ourselves?

I haven’t told my sister that I know about our parents giving her money each month and my parents don’t know that I know either. I won’t say anything to either of them though because it won’t serve any purpose. I only found out due my mom’s brother accidentally letting it slip when he asked me how I was spending my £200 each month as he had assumed my parents were doing it for both of us.

Im just venting. I know it’s my parents choice how they spend their money but after watching them pay out for so much for her over the last two decades this has been a bit of a blow to know they’re still doing it.

I was talking to DH about it and in my frustration I said that I wished I’d made her life choices instead of my own as maybe then my parents would have paid my way in life too and funded my lifestyle choices. I didn’t mean it, I just said it in frustration. I don’t want money from my parents, I wouldn’t accept it if they offered, but I feel a bit hurt that again my sister is getting money from them for no real reason whereas their generosity wasn’t even offered to me.

AIBU to feel a bit pissed off? Has anyone else been in a similar position and found ways to deal with it?

OP posts:
QueenofmyPrinces · 28/11/2018 14:25

Through my eyes it was them saying, “that’s fine, you mess around at school, have fun and don’t try, it’s not a problem because we will pay for you to have extra tuition when the time comes,” whereas there I was, working hard and being told my B grades weren’t good enough because they weren’t A’s.

OP posts:
senua · 28/11/2018 14:36

As an aside, I actually don’t think my sister would have asked outright for any money I genuinely think they were simply offering it to her
It's been troubling me that your divorced/separated parents gave an identical £100/month to DSis. Did they independently happen to come up with this figure. Or did someone suggest it?

RandomMess · 28/11/2018 14:42

Queen this about schooling and being told your grades weren't good enough is what you start with!

You tell them the inequalities have always been there, once one passed there was another and another and it still goes on and on and on.

Popartist · 28/11/2018 14:58

If they keep on saying things happened in the past, why not go back to what your uncle said to you. That was the trigger because he made the natural assumption that your parents would treat you and your sister equally. It must have been humiliating for you when you know this is not the case.

QueenofmyPrinces · 28/11/2018 14:59

It's been troubling me that your divorced/separated parents gave an identical £100/month to DSis. Did they independently happen to come up with this figure.

Our parents have remained very amicable since the divorce, they still see each and speak to each other, get each other birthday and Christmas presents etc etc. My mom implied that she and my dad had agreed between them an amount to give my sister and then pay half/half.

The more I think about how differently we were treated growing up the more angry I feel and I can’t believe how I just let it happen.

As soon as I got my degree I applied for a job in a hospital in a different city and moved out of my parent’s house and at the time I felt nervous about doing it and confused about why I was doing it but i can see now that it was probably my inner voice telling me to get the hell away!

OP posts:
senua · 28/11/2018 15:09

The more I think about how differently we were treated growing up the more angry I feel and I can’t believe how I just let it happen.
Having raised the matter of FOG, do we now need to move on to the five stages of grief (for your lost relationships). Denial, anger, bargaining, depression and finally acceptance.
Flowers

ssd · 28/11/2018 15:17

what is FOG senua?

Yulebealrite · 28/11/2018 15:20

I wouldn't bring up the tutoring. I think that's fair enough. I'd concentrate on the practical help - the washing machine, the lift, babysitting and the car insurance. Throw in as many other practical examples that you can think of. Deflect it from the money. The money just isn't the point, whereas they think it is.

senua · 28/11/2018 15:23

what is FOG
The tools of emotional abusers: Fear, Obligation, Guilt.

Yulebealrite · 28/11/2018 15:24

Ignore that about the tutoring if she was just as able. It is relevant.

I think you should actually print out this thread and hide your user name if you need to. This should open their eyes completely. They won't be able to justify it to themselves anymore when they see everyone is unanimous in understanding why you are upset.

senua · 28/11/2018 15:28

I wouldn't bring up the tutoring. I think that's fair enough.
No it's not! If the reaction to OP's grades is disappointment that a B grade is not an A grade, then wouldn't they think that tutoring might do the trick
Why should not-trying DD get tutoring but not almost-there, just-needs-a-hand DD?

RibbonAurora · 28/11/2018 15:34

Actually not everyone is unanimous Yulebealright - everyone keeps saying its not about the money, and the OP says she doesn't need the money but that's all I see here. Money this, rent that, washing machine here - money money money. OP was fine with being the did well at school/uni/professional golden child and being in a superior financial position to the point of being able to condescend to treat the nieces in a way she thought their mum wouldn't otherwise be able to afford.

Did her sister ask her to do this? No. Did OP ask if she could actually afford it? No. She just assumed she couldn't. Comes to find out something that is actually none of her business in that her sister is being helped out financially by their parents because she probably needs to be and she's finally able to spend a little on some new clothes and socialise a little and all hell breaks loose. Of course it's about the money - it always is.

Yulebealrite · 28/11/2018 15:47

I know senua I already taken that back in the post before yours, after I'd read the update about her being as bright, but lazy.

QuizzlyBear · 28/11/2018 15:52

I guess the OPs DSis has joined the thread, right @RibbonAurora?!

Wow, so because the OP wanted to do something nice for her nieces, she's 'condescending'? If you RTFT, you'll have seen where the OP says that her DSis has pled poverty on many occasions (despite wages, child maintenance, benefits and parental handouts) so the OP hardly assumed anything about her financial position that wasn't fed to her.

When parents constantly 'do' for one sibling and not the other (whether by childcare, practical help or psychological support) it breeds not only resentment but also feelings of inadequacy. It's not about the money, it's about the feelings of self-worth. You're very lucky @RibbonAurora if you've not experienced this, but I guess that's why the only thing that registers with you is the mention of money.

QuizzlyBear · 28/11/2018 15:54

Sorry, not sure why my last post went super bold... Hmm

Dungeondragon15 · 28/11/2018 15:57

I think it is a bit petty to bring up tutoring and it will distract from the OP's very valid reasons for being annoyed. OP may argue that her sibling is just as bright but her parents would no doubt disagree and they probably have more of an idea of their child's academic abilities compared with a sibling. There is no proof that she could have done as well as OP academically.

EdwardBear1920 · 28/11/2018 16:05

I completely understand your crossness, Queen. And I also understand when you say that this isn't about the money.

I agree completely with something said upthread; 'Being equal isn't necessary being the same.'

DM doesn't have a heap of money. There have been times when DSIS has needed help, and she's got that help. I have not needed that help, so have not had it.

HOWEVER, I did need a heck of a lot of support and care when I was ill. Mum came every day for several weeks, and called every day for several more. Sis didn't need that, so she didn't get it.

Same, but different. I needed time, she needed finance. Neither of us begrudge the other.

If your father had just been able to offer you that 4 hours that would really help you out, that would have stood for something. It's the fact that he will for one child, but he won't for the other. That's the kicker.

If you do continue discussions, it might be worth focusing on the stuff that's not financial. Not getting a tutor but expecting to get the high grades anyway. Not getting time when needed. Not getting lifts without guilt. It's not, 'You gave her £10!' It's about not getting the help and the boost up that you could really have used at times. Yes you did well, but you did it alone and it's that loneliness that hurts.

NoFucksImAQueen · 28/11/2018 16:14

the more post the more angry I feel for you. your parents are bloody horrible! I can't imagine doing this to my kids

sollyfromsurrey · 28/11/2018 16:40

Just be prepared that they may well leave her the bulk of their estate as they seem to have decided she is deserving of their money and you are not. You can wrap it up in all sorts of theories but ultimately they have shown time and time again that they are happier to give their money to her.

TBDO · 28/11/2018 16:45

The key thing coming across to me is that because you didn’t explicitly ask for stuff when you were younger (driving lessons, tutoring), your parents haven’t supplied it. As you’ve just got on with stuff, the’ve never stopped to consider the inequality and their assumptions that you will be ok.

With your dad, perhaps he subconsciously thinks that you have a man to support you so he doesn’t need to. But your sister doesn’t so he has to help her.

It’s gping to be hard to steer this away from you ‘wanting money’. I’d suggest not engaging with them on this - if they call, send a message back saying that you’ve been hurt by the omission and that on reflecting back on the different treatment of you both over the years, you need some time to come to terms with it. Disengage whilst you get your head round it. They will not be on a mood to listen and agree that you were right all along, you need to let some distance develop so you can all be objective.

Mix56 · 28/11/2018 17:06

Don't go & discuss this over "a couples of bottles of wine" whatever happens you don't want alcohol in the mix of all this hurt & emotion !

Unicornandbows · 28/11/2018 17:08

Op I am so angry on your behalf, their reasoning and injustice is piss taking.. What does your uncle think of the situation?

Tiaptia85 · 28/11/2018 17:36

Ask your mum not £50 to you and £150 to your sister, but half and half.

If they are serious about treating their daughters equally they will do it.

If not, you will have your picture complete.

cheminotte · 28/11/2018 18:42

I agree with Mix - definitely no wine! It needs to be a sober discussion and I think more recent examples will be seen as more valid.

Amazonian27 · 28/11/2018 18:51

Thank you everyone - it’s reassuring to know I’m not overreacting. I’ve put up with this for so many years now that it almost feels normal and acceptable to me, hence why I’ve never pulled my parents up on it.

I assumed her ex had lived with DSIS at some point????

My sister and her Ex moved in together after a year and then she got pregnant with their first daughter relatively quickly. They split up when the children were about 9 and 5.

Someone said I should have told my dad that I couldn’t pay for lunch because I had school shoes to buy and it made me chuckle because my parents have been paying for my niece’s school shoes for as long as I can remember grin
Queen - this sounds exactly what happened when I tried to speak to my parents instead of discussing, admitting or apologising the conversation my mum turned it round to me being angry even though I spoke calmly and said to me something like ‘have you calmed down now Amazon...because you were in a bit of a bad mood the other day’.
I am 53 now I still keep in touch (as I couldn’t stand the guilt) with my parents who are still together but not as much as I did.

I’ve had another missed call off my dad this morning but I ignored it again and my mom has text me to ask if I’m “feeling any better about things” hmm

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