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My sister financially benefitting from our parents AGAIN.

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QueenofmyPrinces · 26/11/2018 08:40

There are 13 months between me and my sister so we were very close growing up together and we are still close now, I love her and she’s one of my favourite people to be around.

Growing up we were very different, I was the typical ‘good sensible girl’ whereas she was more the type who took each day as it came and having fun was her main focus. At the time, I was envious of her character and spirit and wished I was more like her.

I did well at school, went to college, then university and have a professional job, whereas she didn’t really try at school, dropped out of two college courses and eventually ended up in a job that our neighbour found for her.

Fast forward to now: we’re in our late 30s and still very close. We both have two children although she is no longer with the father as he turned out to be a complete shit. He’s active in the children’s lives though and he provides well for them financially and helps my sister out too in ways he isn’t obliged to. I don’t particularly like the man but I can’t criticise him for the way he still provides for the children and the things he does to help my sister.

In our teenage years and through our 20’s my sister was frequently financially helped out by our parents because “she didn’t have a well paying job” and they paid out a lot for her. They paid for things to be done around her house (luxuries as opposed to necessities), paid her phone bills and store cards, paid for things for the children and paid for her driving lessons too when she was in her mid 20’s.

At the same time as they were paying for her driving lessons I was having to pay for my own lessons even though I was a student and they were charging me rent, compared to her being in full time employment and not even living in the family home anymore.

I could list lots of ways my sister has financially benefited from our parents over the last 10-15 years and although there has always been potential for resentment because of how differently we were treated I never felt it, or if I did I have no recollection of it and it didn’t impact on my relationship with my sister.

Fast forward to the last 12 months or so and my sister started going out with her friends a lot more, going out frequently for meals and drinks, going away for weekends, having new clothes etc and at the time I thought nothing of it. I was just glad to see her enjoying herself now her children are older (10 and 14) and that she was getting her life back as it were.

Recently me and DH have put ourselves out quite significantly in terms of finances in order to do something to benefit her children in order to allow them to experience something they’d never be able to if me and DH didn’t pay for it. Initially we had spoken about her paying 10% of the cost but after thinking about it I told my sister that no financial contribution was necessary as I was happy to treat my nieces and that I knew every pound counts to her and that even a small contribution would be difficult for her. She said thanks, she appreciated it and that was the end of the discussion.

Anyhow - I found out a few days ago that for the last 12 months my parents have been giving her £200 every month “just in case she needs it” and it’s actually really pissed me off. Our parents are divorced and they each give her £100.

I now feel a little put out that she so readily accepted our offer not to contribute to what we are doing for her children (which is costing us nearly £1k) when she’s getting £200 each month from our parents that she doesn’t actually need.

They (particularly my mom) also give her children money quite frequently whereas mine don’t get anything.

Inside I feel like the “special treatment” of her is still going on after all these years and I think that throughout her life it’s paid off that she didn’t get a good job because my parents have paid out so much for her and still do. I’m also in disbelief that at our age she is still taking money from our parents because as adults shouldn’t we be taking responsibility for ourselves?

I haven’t told my sister that I know about our parents giving her money each month and my parents don’t know that I know either. I won’t say anything to either of them though because it won’t serve any purpose. I only found out due my mom’s brother accidentally letting it slip when he asked me how I was spending my £200 each month as he had assumed my parents were doing it for both of us.

Im just venting. I know it’s my parents choice how they spend their money but after watching them pay out for so much for her over the last two decades this has been a bit of a blow to know they’re still doing it.

I was talking to DH about it and in my frustration I said that I wished I’d made her life choices instead of my own as maybe then my parents would have paid my way in life too and funded my lifestyle choices. I didn’t mean it, I just said it in frustration. I don’t want money from my parents, I wouldn’t accept it if they offered, but I feel a bit hurt that again my sister is getting money from them for no real reason whereas their generosity wasn’t even offered to me.

AIBU to feel a bit pissed off? Has anyone else been in a similar position and found ways to deal with it?

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Grace212 · 28/11/2018 10:05

OP that hospital thing gave me the rage.

I would step back from all of them for a while. Don't worry about putting a time frame on it. You need some space to get your head clear.

RandomMess · 28/11/2018 10:10

Same in DH's family - SIL is the taker and demander.

We will not be stepping up when they get frail. They haves somewhere very inaccessible to DH as he doesn't drive. MIL actually said they didn't dare move to be nearer us than SIL as she would have kicked off.

We live far further away and have visited there home far more often. For DH it's been death by a thousand cuts...

YearOfYouRemember · 28/11/2018 10:14

Fuck, OP I doubt I know you in real life but next time you need a lift I'll take you.

My parents abandoned me and I was brought up in care but reading stuff like this reminds me others didn't have it great either at times.

QueenofmyPrinces · 28/11/2018 10:43

Thank you everyone - it’s reassuring to know I’m not overreacting. I’ve put up with this for so many years now that it almost feels normal and acceptable to me, hence why I’ve never pulled my parents up on it.

I assumed her ex had lived with DSIS at some point????

My sister and her Ex moved in together after a year and then she got pregnant with their first daughter relatively quickly. They split up when the children were about 9 and 5.

Someone said I should have told my dad that I couldn’t pay for lunch because I had school shoes to buy and it made me chuckle because my parents have been paying for my niece’s school shoes for as long as I can remember Grin

I’ve had another missed call off my dad this morning but I ignored it again and my mom has text me to ask if I’m “feeling any better about things” Hmm

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smatergiesstratergies · 28/11/2018 10:50

I wouldn't discuss the sister/money thing more - i can't see what good can come - but I do think you should tell your parents the times you've asked for help or could've used help and got none, re childcare, washing machine etc. Those are worth bringing up to try and show why you feel hurt.

Remember though, your sister isn't evil, neither are your parents, your sister has taken advantage when she's been allowed to, your parents have over-compensated and gotten stuck in a mode of always subsiding your sister.

Your feelings are hurt as your sister has taken advantage of you and then come up with a crock of poo explanation about having to take your money so you wouldn't find out about the other money (wow, that smells). But you should leave that now as they all know what they've done don't they?

smatergiesstratergies · 28/11/2018 10:53

ha their tactics sound just like my parents - act like you overreacted and they will be the bigger people. They obviously do care about you though.

MadCattery · 28/11/2018 10:53

I am so far away, in the US, but feel like Mumsnet has proven to be an amazing community of friends. Everyone is on your side, in the kindest of ways. Maybe you should direct your parents and sister to read this thread before you'll discuss it.

QueenofmyPrinces · 28/11/2018 10:59

My mom has now said that if I’m that bothered about the money she will take £50 off my sister’s ‘allowance’ and give it to me Shock I replied and said I do not need or want her money and that she’s had spectacularly missed the point. I asked her to just stop going on about it now and said we can talk about it when I see her at the weekend.

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RandomMess · 28/11/2018 11:00

Actually I would reply something like

"No, worse actually. Feel like a complete mug taking on more shifts, paying out more childcare when the DC need shoes and to fund DN coming away with us. Should have just asked you and DF instead"

WhipItGood · 28/11/2018 11:01

Good grief..’are you feeling any better about things?’ 😳

In other words, just hurry up and brush it under the carpet so they can resume situation normal.

The crack about paying for lunch is the cherry on the cake.

This has gone on for a lifetime. They really can’t (or won’t) see what’s wrong now. Even if they do, I suspect they’ll just say what they think you want to hear to smooth things over.

In reality whatever they arrange with your sister will be more hushed up than ever because they won’t want to risk another confrontation.

RandomMess · 28/11/2018 11:02

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smatergiesstratergies · 28/11/2018 11:05

yes they've missed the point. You need to bring out the examples of the times they've not helped. But also, your sister and mum are never going to hold their hands up and go 'alright, your sister has been a CF and we've been enabling her', the loss of face is too much to bear.

Best to bring it back to the things that have hurt you - general lack of back up and see if things change going forward?

Change going forward is what you're after really, it might be that they actually think twice next time, as much as they go more underground.

Iamdanish · 28/11/2018 11:07

Send this tread to your parents and ask them to read. Just maybe they will understand your feelings. Otherwise the only way forward will be you trying to "forget" the issue in order to maintain a relationship with your family. If they read this first they hopefully won't just claim you are having a "fit" of unreasonability".

senua · 28/11/2018 11:10

In other words, just hurry up and brush it under the carpet so they can resume situation normal.
Yes, this. They still don't get it. Not that it's surprising - it took OP a while to realise, and she's the injured party.
I suggest that when you go to see your mum you explain how you feel, give examples of inequities over the years and then invent some word that you can use that is family-shorthand for "you're at it again, can you not see that you are going that inequality in treatment thing again." Then leave the message to sink in, she needs to process it.

MumW · 28/11/2018 11:16

In your situation, this is what I'd like to say to your mum but whether I'd actually have the courage to follow through and send it is another matter.

"Actually, no. The more i think about, the more I remember all the inconsistencies in the way you treat me and my sister. It's not about the money, it's all the times you have gone out of your way to help her whether she asked or really needed it or not yet on the few occaissions I've asked for childcare or a lift, you've either said an out right no or wanted to be compensated.

Contrary to what you seem to think, my life has not been easy, I've worked hard to get where I am today and quite honestly I feel as though whatever I achieve isn't good enough for you or gives you another excuse to lavish more on DSis. I've made my own opportunities. DSis has just cruised through life doing the minimum as you are constantly bailing her out.

What hurts the most is that you can't see/won't acknowledge the way you've favoured her"

Bloomcounty · 28/11/2018 11:16

OP, my heart goes right out to you. Your sister has deceived you, deliberately. She's taken a lot of money off you, knowing full well that she didn't need it and that you were yourself working overtime to treat her daughters to a luxury that she could actually pay for herself (albeit with money given to her by your parents).

I'm really sorry but I genuinely can't see your relationship with her surviving this unscathed. It's already different, isn't it? You feel like a fool, that everyone has known and laughed at you behind your back. That's hard to forget.

You may ultimately be able to resurrect some sort of friendship, but will you ever trust her again? If you can do that, you are by far a better person than I would ever be. I'd never put my hand in my purse again for her, no matter what the circumstances. Can't afford a coffee? Shame, I can. You can watch me drink mine if you want.

I don't think I'd ever feel the same about her, and I suspect you'll find the same. Allow yourself to grieve for the end of this relationship. Even if you manage to keep it cordial, it will be different, because both of you know the truth now, and both of you know that you've been lied to by your sister. That's a tough thing to deal with. I wish you all the luck in the world.

Silkie2 · 28/11/2018 11:20

•You've had yourmum on the phone because your sis phoned her all upset*
Well there's DSis manipulating things again, calling DM to the rescue cos angry big sis has teased her and made her cry!!!!
Tell your DM that DSis is an adult and if she has a problem with you she can speak to you directly.
The above has just turned it into 3 of them against you - Not Ok.
Don't get pulled into this warped set up.

QueenofmyPrinces · 28/11/2018 11:25

The whole family dynamic has been rattled now and I just can’t inagine how things can continue. Are my parents suddenly going to stop doing things for my sister because they’ll be thinking “how will Queen feel about this?” Or will they do things for me out of obligation as opposed to it being genuine? If they do stop doing things for my sister and nieces will they suffer for it and will my sister forever blame me?

The entire thing is messed up. My mom’s blase attitude in her text this morning indicates that she doesn’t think she’s done anything wrong or that there’s anything to apologise for so what hope is there?

After 20 years of always being there for my sister (practically and financially) I doubt she’s suddenly going to turn around and wonder whether actually it wasn’t the best path to take.

I haven’t heard from my sister again so hopefully she’s just giving me the space that I asked for.

Anyway, I’m off for lunch with a good friend so it will act as a great distraction from all this. Thanks everyone again for all your support and comments.

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Daisymay2 · 28/11/2018 11:29

Random Mess has the correct response to your mum. I would text and say " thinking about it , no I don't feel better, then text random's response. Might even follow it with X needs new shoes- can you help.

I might even be tempted to take the £50 and save it for your kids. ANd take the holiday money!

senua · 28/11/2018 11:33

I like MumW's text.

ChasedByBees · 28/11/2018 11:34

Those are good concrete examples of the way that things are unfair. I would put them in writing to your parents as if you try and say them, it might get interrupted or not listened to. You’re doing the right thing raising this and bringing it to the surface even if it doesn’t feel like it.

HedgehogPoo · 28/11/2018 11:37

You sound absolutely lovely OP and I am impressed by your composure and self-control throughout. I hope that I can actually learn some patience and calmness from you as mine is sadly lacking at times. You are quite inspirational! Flowers

QueenofmyPrinces · 28/11/2018 11:46

I hope that I can actually learn some patience and calmness from you as mine is sadly lacking at times. You are quite inspirational!

Thanks Hedgehog but I’m not as calm as I may come across. In the real world I’m really pissed off and haven’t stopped angrily ranting about it to my DH Grin

I have just got off the phone to my mom and I had bought up the inequality of the driving lessons and I asked her why she and my dad had funded that for my sister and not me. She said that my sister really wanted to learn to drive but as she wasn’t on a good wage they paid because they wanted to help out. I said, “And what about me?” Her response was that as I was having lessons it meant I could clearly afford the lessons so they didn’t see the need to offer any help.

I asked them how they felt one daughter, who is in full time employment and lives elsewhere with her partner who also works, is worthy of their financial help for driving lessons whereas their other daughter, a Uni student who is still living at home with a monthly income of £110 isn’t deserving of the same?

She asked me why on earth was I bringing up something that happened 15 years ago and that it really isn’t relevant anymore Hmm

I then told her I had to go due to lunch plans and pretty much just put the phone down. I feel infuriated!!

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smatergiesstratergies · 28/11/2018 11:55

can you text her the other examples you've raised? I don't think they're getting it, in the sense of, they clearly didn't have any clue that you were upset at any of these points queen - they do sound genuinely confused.

It must be odd for them as they thought nothing of it at the time - they need to see how the picture looks from your side over the years with more examples.

ssd · 28/11/2018 11:55

similar situation here, not with parents though

what do you do when someone doesn't take the blame, doesn't see that they did anything wrong, how do you accept this after years of being hurt and feeling forgotten??

or worse, if they do take the blame but you know it isn't sincere....and nothing changes??

I hope you find the answer here op, I think many of us would benefit from finding the answer too Thanks

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