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My sister financially benefitting from our parents AGAIN.

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QueenofmyPrinces · 26/11/2018 08:40

There are 13 months between me and my sister so we were very close growing up together and we are still close now, I love her and she’s one of my favourite people to be around.

Growing up we were very different, I was the typical ‘good sensible girl’ whereas she was more the type who took each day as it came and having fun was her main focus. At the time, I was envious of her character and spirit and wished I was more like her.

I did well at school, went to college, then university and have a professional job, whereas she didn’t really try at school, dropped out of two college courses and eventually ended up in a job that our neighbour found for her.

Fast forward to now: we’re in our late 30s and still very close. We both have two children although she is no longer with the father as he turned out to be a complete shit. He’s active in the children’s lives though and he provides well for them financially and helps my sister out too in ways he isn’t obliged to. I don’t particularly like the man but I can’t criticise him for the way he still provides for the children and the things he does to help my sister.

In our teenage years and through our 20’s my sister was frequently financially helped out by our parents because “she didn’t have a well paying job” and they paid out a lot for her. They paid for things to be done around her house (luxuries as opposed to necessities), paid her phone bills and store cards, paid for things for the children and paid for her driving lessons too when she was in her mid 20’s.

At the same time as they were paying for her driving lessons I was having to pay for my own lessons even though I was a student and they were charging me rent, compared to her being in full time employment and not even living in the family home anymore.

I could list lots of ways my sister has financially benefited from our parents over the last 10-15 years and although there has always been potential for resentment because of how differently we were treated I never felt it, or if I did I have no recollection of it and it didn’t impact on my relationship with my sister.

Fast forward to the last 12 months or so and my sister started going out with her friends a lot more, going out frequently for meals and drinks, going away for weekends, having new clothes etc and at the time I thought nothing of it. I was just glad to see her enjoying herself now her children are older (10 and 14) and that she was getting her life back as it were.

Recently me and DH have put ourselves out quite significantly in terms of finances in order to do something to benefit her children in order to allow them to experience something they’d never be able to if me and DH didn’t pay for it. Initially we had spoken about her paying 10% of the cost but after thinking about it I told my sister that no financial contribution was necessary as I was happy to treat my nieces and that I knew every pound counts to her and that even a small contribution would be difficult for her. She said thanks, she appreciated it and that was the end of the discussion.

Anyhow - I found out a few days ago that for the last 12 months my parents have been giving her £200 every month “just in case she needs it” and it’s actually really pissed me off. Our parents are divorced and they each give her £100.

I now feel a little put out that she so readily accepted our offer not to contribute to what we are doing for her children (which is costing us nearly £1k) when she’s getting £200 each month from our parents that she doesn’t actually need.

They (particularly my mom) also give her children money quite frequently whereas mine don’t get anything.

Inside I feel like the “special treatment” of her is still going on after all these years and I think that throughout her life it’s paid off that she didn’t get a good job because my parents have paid out so much for her and still do. I’m also in disbelief that at our age she is still taking money from our parents because as adults shouldn’t we be taking responsibility for ourselves?

I haven’t told my sister that I know about our parents giving her money each month and my parents don’t know that I know either. I won’t say anything to either of them though because it won’t serve any purpose. I only found out due my mom’s brother accidentally letting it slip when he asked me how I was spending my £200 each month as he had assumed my parents were doing it for both of us.

Im just venting. I know it’s my parents choice how they spend their money but after watching them pay out for so much for her over the last two decades this has been a bit of a blow to know they’re still doing it.

I was talking to DH about it and in my frustration I said that I wished I’d made her life choices instead of my own as maybe then my parents would have paid my way in life too and funded my lifestyle choices. I didn’t mean it, I just said it in frustration. I don’t want money from my parents, I wouldn’t accept it if they offered, but I feel a bit hurt that again my sister is getting money from them for no real reason whereas their generosity wasn’t even offered to me.

AIBU to feel a bit pissed off? Has anyone else been in a similar position and found ways to deal with it?

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chickenloverwoman · 27/11/2018 22:33

@TwoDrifters

Rightly or wrongly, they obviously feel she needs the money and you don’t. But how do they square that with the childcare that you also need and they’ve refused?

What they said!

NoFucksImAQueen · 27/11/2018 22:36

is it strange that I'm proud of you for telling your mum how you feel? probably, but I am. well done op

QueenofmyPrinces · 27/11/2018 22:41

Thanks everyone for your thoughts and advice - it’s certainly provided me with some much needed clarity. I feel like I’m viewing our family set-up in a whole new light since this came out and I’m struggling to come to terms with my sister’s role in all of this.

My dad phoned me earlier but I didn’t answer because I feel a bit drained by it all now and I couldnt face hearing another side to the story and more excused. I’ve had another text off my sister to say she will write me a cheque to pay for the initially agreed holiday contributions but I haven’t replied. I don’t want her money knowing that technically it’s my parents money anyway. I think she sent me that text to try and make herself feel better about things, it’s her way of apologising but I’m just not interested.

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QueenofmyPrinces · 27/11/2018 22:42

Thanks Nofucks Grin

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Tiaptia85 · 27/11/2018 22:44

I got a feeling this is why they did it on a first place to me. To have a reason to leave their heritage to my sis not me. I do not deserve as I'm a monster yep.....

kayakingmum · 27/11/2018 22:46

You sound like a really nice person.
Don't let you're parents' decision affect your relationship with your sister. I'm glad it hasn't so far.
So many families fall out over money and preferential treatment of one over another. It's really sad.

I'm pregnant with baby no.2. I really hope they are close to each other. I am going to make a conscious effort to treat them both fairly.

RedDogsBeg · 27/11/2018 22:49

Take your own time to come to terms with this, your sister seems to think that money is the salve for everything. Your parents and sister are wilfully ignoring the issue underlying all this they don't want to face it because they would have to admit they have all behaved unfairly towards you.

7yo7yo · 27/11/2018 22:53

Good for you op.
I’m proud of you too.
You sound lovely but don’t let them take your kindness for a weakness.
The guilt trips will start now, how can you resent us giving her money etc etc. Stay strong. Flowers

senua · 27/11/2018 22:55

I’ve had another text off my sister to say she will write me a cheque to pay for the initially agreed holiday contributions.
No scrabbling down the back of the sofa? No asking to pay in instalments? It's only a month to Christmas but she can find the money immediately? What does that tell you.

ChasedByBees · 27/11/2018 22:58

I also think you should have told your parents that she spends the money in a social life whilst you have no help with childcare and are working overtime to help your sister’s children, under the impression she needs that help. That’s what makes this so unfair.

QueenofmyPrinces · 27/11/2018 23:02

No scrabbling down the back of the sofa? No asking to pay in instalments? It's only a month to Christmas but she can find the money immediately? What does that tell you.

She knows I will decline her offer and now so she can paint me as the martyr and her the victim again. She probably just wants to look like the good guy whilst making me seem like the bad guy for not accepting her olive branch....

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senua · 27/11/2018 23:10

She knows I will decline her offer
She knows what she is doing. You can decline or not-bank a cheque. You can't decline a bank transfer.

If the cheque does materialise, I suggest that you keep it - and let DSis know that you will use it for the nieces' spending money. Have you discussed who was supposed to be organising and paying for passports?

QueenofmyPrinces · 27/11/2018 23:15

Have you discussed who was supposed to be organising and paying for passports?

I’m surprised you havent guessed who paid for them Grin

(it wasn’t me by the way!) Grin

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yphtutor · 27/11/2018 23:15

My husband has always been unfairly, in my view, treated by his parents in relation to his sister. Although he is a high achiever, in career, academic and sports terms, loves his parents and is an amazingly thoughtful and kind person, maybe because of me? - divorced with small child! (not afraid to say it like I see it) - he has been less favourably looked upon by his parents. So my advice is to just rise above it and count your blessings, we are hugely blessed with slightly underperforming children 😂 but, we love them so much. We don’t have loads of money, but enough to keep us all going. His sister makes grand gestures but she’s a complete bitch. We call her husband ‘sperm donor’ it’s what he is. She’s the breadwinner he sits on his bottom all day watching tv and playing games. But she pays for everything. We are so much more than that and so are you. Don’t be bitter you’re better x

OhLookHeKickedTheBall · 27/11/2018 23:35

If the cheque does materialise, I suggest that you keep it - and let DSis know that you will use it for the nieces' spending money. Have you discussed who was supposed to be organising and paying for passports?
This. It's the only play you can play this. Accept your sister's so called olive branch but don't use the money on yourself.

FWIW I have a poor sister. She was always academically less than me, but she was socially more than me. My sister ended up doing well for herself in something that wasn't her real passion, which is totally to her credit. However my parents bail her out regularly despite her earning more than my DH the only earner in our house so he covers me and the two DC plus the mortgage and spending most of her weekends getting pissed. My sister and I didn't make it to the point where we still have a relationship, and are NC. Things like this rock you and question how well you know people. I try desperately to avoid doing what my parents did.

Ironically my ILs are different. They financially favour neither but they're blatent in their personal treatment of BIL. DH has only recently seen this though and is still slightly head burying,

buckeejit · 27/11/2018 23:39

That sucks! I think you are doing the right thing to be honest with them all but try to stay calm-you don't want to ruin relationships over it if they can be saved. If you can speak in a measured way, that invites honest responses, it will make things easier.

Say you're disappointed & feel let down & deceived. Also, take the money from her. Use it for something nice for your family. Forget where it came from. And you'll be more cautious in future. If she had been genuine, when you said don't worry about the money, rather than saying 'ok thanks', she should have said, 'please at least take the £80 or whatever that I'll save by not hosting them At home'

plainchocolate · 27/11/2018 23:51

My story started similarly but over the years has become worse. My sister has gone from dropping out of Uni to bring a drug addict. As well as financially abusing my parents she manipulates them into cleaning up her filthy flat for her each week. Nowadays I think wistfully of the times when I was jealous she got spoiled while I was assumed to be always able to get on with it and cope. Hopefully, for you they plan to even the balance someday. Meanwhile, you deserve to feel proud of what you’ve achieved and given to your family. Enjoy not feeling beholden or dependent as that’s a gift in itself.

NoDancingPolicy · 28/11/2018 00:11

It's a source of great sadness but also great strength when you come to terms with the fact that you are on your own. The family who are supposed to love you unconditionally don't actually do that, and no matter how hard you try, you can't change it. The only thing you can do is break the cycle is with how you treat your own kids.

yve62 · 28/11/2018 00:12

Of course it's her business she's their daughter too! I don't think I know a single person who wouldn't find this behaviour unfair and discriminatory.

yve62 · 28/11/2018 00:40

I just want to say that you sound like a lovely, thoughtful person, clearly traits you didn't inherit! This is an abysmal situation and your parents (and sister) should be ashamed. Your mother needs to remove her blinkers.

yve62 · 28/11/2018 00:42

Very well said and yes, I've been there too.
Breaking the cycle is incredibly empowering though.

AcrossthePond55 · 28/11/2018 01:28

It's only a month to Christmas but she can find the money immediately? What does that tell you

That OP's parents are probably going to front her the cash.

paint me as the martyr and her the victim again. She probably just wants to look like the good guy whilst making me seem like the bad guy for not accepting her olive branch....

I'd probably either ignore the offer or just say the trip's already paid for and for her to give the money to DN's to spend on holiday and/or buy some new holiday clothes.

user1465876185 · 28/11/2018 01:33

I don't have brothers and sisters so when I came across this scenario for the first time I could not believe parents could treat their adult children so differently. My Husband sat his mother down one day and said to her, Mum you have to stop giving money to (sister) and then it came out she knew she was being had but SIL used starving children etc as the blackmail (and it is blackmail). Never mind the new tatts and motorbike in the garage. I was there and I can tell you it was a very uncomfortable conversation to listen to. In time SIL got her revenge and created a huge story of me sending abusive emails that cut any goodwill my MIL and I had towards each other. Some months later MIL passed away, SIL had manage to appoint her then Girlfriend's solicitor to change MIL's Will to include her children in the estate instead of it just being the two, so effectively the Estate (as it was) ended up being divided between 7 people with a number of new items from the family home already taken. She also withdrew funds from MIL's bank account via ATM for the month after MIL's death without notifying the bank of the death. My point in telling you this was my Husband tried to sort it with his Mother and it backfired. His Sister although not a warm person to start with, emerged from what bubble she created for herself into a vindictive, nasty, lying thief. You appear to have reached the cross roads that my Hubby did frustration wise and now it seems to me you have two choices, either put up and ''shut'' up, or call the family to the table excluding partners and children. Just be prepared you will not be coming out hugging by the end of it. Be prepared after this meeting your sister will ''work'' on your Parents further behind your back and encourage them to become distant from you, esp. in regard to their financial position and it will only get worse as they grow older and are more easily manipulated by your sister. Good luck, I really feel for you. x

Halo84 · 28/11/2018 01:36

My grandparents were exactly this way with my aunt. My mother always resented it but she never allowed it to affect her relationship with my aunt.

My mother and aunt are in their mid seventies now. Mom has a beautiful home, vacations abroad, and has a great pension. My aunt gets up at 5 a.m. to go work 8 hours at a petrol station.

I suspect at this point, your parents see you have a stable marriage and job, and your sister doesn’t. That’s why they give her money. Yes, it would piss me off, but how I would deal with it would be to distance myself from my parents-take the kids to the in laws more, do things independently as a family. That’s not something my mother ever did, she always was close to her parents. Now that they are gone, most-most, not all-of that resentment has dissipated.

Vivaldi1678 · 28/11/2018 05:18

This is a really interesting thread. Speaking as a mother to adult DC I have always thought that they should be treated equally fairly, but that doesn't necessarily mean the same. One might be more needy, say for physical or mental health reasons, and be unable to get a job. When they are dependent children it's easy to see that equal should mean the same, but when children grow up I think the picture becomes more blurred.

In your shoes, I would be very hurt, and it is obvious that the hurt comes from the deception rather than the money itself. If they had asked you, would you have approved of gifting your sister the money each month?I think you were right to raise it with your DP and I am sure that when they have pondered the matter, they will see exactly why you are hurt and will hopefully make it up to you and/or be more considerate in future.

But it's clear from what you say that you have a close and loving relationship with your DP and sister, and that your children are loved very much by their GP, that you have a lot of love for your nieces etc. It would be tragic to destroy all of that and I can't believe that some posters are saying go NC.

Your DP do not favour your sister and the gifting of money is not a reflection of love ie it is NOT the case that the bigger the gift the bigger the love. I am quite sure that is not how they see it, but now that it is out into the open, they need to realise how their actions may be interpreted. I would leave it for a few days and then have a 'heart to heart', to properly clear the air. Then move forwards.

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