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To be worried this is neglect

76 replies

Wingingthis · 24/11/2018 18:20

I don’t want to get too specific but...

2yo passed from pillar to post almost every weekend so parents can go out/go on holiday since he was a young baby, as well as being in nursery full time. Isn’t at all phased when parents leave, even if left with people he doesn’t know (they don’t even say goodbye mind you).
When i last saw 2yo - very very skinny & pale, bruised down the spine.
Parents constantly talk about how ‘annoying’ 2yo is, never really say anything nice about him.

Mum of 2yo told a friend that the dad “hit him the other day”.
Speak to him horribly infront of others, are very very ‘tough love’ with him.
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He seems very nervous & anxious. He’s so sweet and I just really feel for him.

Am I over reacting? I just have a weird gut feeling.

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Smellbellina · 24/11/2018 18:21

I can see why you are concerned?

Aeroflotgirl · 24/11/2018 18:24

I would phone NSPCC for advice, this sounds awful, poor boy Sad.

Birdsgottafly · 24/11/2018 18:27

It's surprising that the Nurse hasn't picked up on any of this.

Do you know why that would be?

Ceecee18 · 24/11/2018 18:29

The leaving with others at weekends and full time nursery aren't neglect, just how they choose to parent.

The comment of dad 'hitting him' depends on whether it was a smack (which is legal, not that I agree with it) or an actual hit.

The bruises, especially coupled with the hitting comment, are definitely a cause for concern. I would definitely phones the NSPCC

LIZS · 24/11/2018 18:31

If you are concerned report to ss or nspcc. Sounds chaotic at best. Are parents young?

Wingingthis · 24/11/2018 18:32

Thanks everyone.

Birds - I have no idea re. Nurse. I suppose sometimes it’s harder to spot unless you know the family! :/

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Polidori · 24/11/2018 18:33

I'd say you should share your concerns with the authorities.
If it turns out that the answer is 'there's no problem', that doesn't mean you shouldn't have asked the question.
Some worrying indicators there.

Wingingthis · 24/11/2018 18:34

Yes I agree on there own some of these things could be fine (eg left with others) I think it’s just all of it added together as the big picture.

Parents are mid twenties & very career/social life focused.

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Birdsgottafly · 24/11/2018 18:34

LIZS, why is their age relevant?

In some of the high profile murder cases of toddlers killed, the Parents haven't been young.

Wingingthis · 24/11/2018 18:36

These are very close friends to Dhs. If it turns out to be nothing - does anyone know if calling the NSPCC is annonymous?
Ofc the welfare of this child comes first so I will call regardless.

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Birdsgottafly · 24/11/2018 18:36

Wingingthis, but they do know the family and see the child every day for eight hours?

Report they may have concerns and can add to anything reported.

HollowTalk · 24/11/2018 18:36

It's not a gut feeling if there are bruises on this poor child's back!

Phone NSPCC tonight. I did this and they were great.

Wingingthis · 24/11/2018 18:37

Sorry birds. I thought you meant nurse in the medical sense. Not a nursery worker! I’m not sure x

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Birdsgottafly · 24/11/2018 18:37

Why are you phoning the NSPCC and not SS?

But yes it can be kept anonymous.

Wingingthis · 24/11/2018 18:39

Because I have no clue what to do or who to call. I didn’t realise I should be calling one rather than the other?! I’ve never been in this situation before

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donkir · 24/11/2018 18:45

I work in a nursery in the 2 and under room. Unless the child needed a change of clothes we wouldn't go checking a child over so wouldn't always pick up on bruises unless we had cause for concern.
I would ring your local ss team or could you phone the nursery to report your concerns asking to speak to their safeguarding officer.

Ceecee18 · 24/11/2018 18:45

I thought you could call NSPCC and they would pass info to social services? It will anonymous either way.

nickelbabeokay · 24/11/2018 18:48

If you are concerned in sny way, write down all of your worries qnd flag them up as a safeguarding worry.
if the baby is registered at a nursery, tell them. If not, then social services would be your best bet.
the most important thing is thar you tell someone

donkir · 24/11/2018 18:48

This is a link for my local ss. I'm sure you'd have something similar in your area.
All calls are anonymous unless you want to give your name or work in a profession such as teaching, nursery or doctor etc.
infolink.suffolk.gov.uk/kb5/suffolk/infolink/advice.page?id=NYFIzl7NuJU

Ceecee18 · 24/11/2018 18:48

NSPCC will contact the police or social services if needed but you can ask them to keep your details confidential OP.

To be worried this is neglect
ILoveHumanity · 24/11/2018 19:02

The bruising down the spine could be a birth mark

My son has them they’re called mangolian spot

Finefineanddandy · 24/11/2018 19:07

If you call the nspcc they will pass on the information to social care.You can be anonymous however social care do find it easier to investigate if they have your details so though.Of the concerns you’ve raised it it only bruising which is likely to meet threshold if other agencies haven’t had cause for concern,particularly if you are anonymous and they can’t follow up.I would advise you to google children’s social care in your area and call them directly if you can as there can be some delay when the nspcc have to pass on information.

CrabbyPatty · 24/11/2018 19:10

Definitely worth sharing as its all part of the jig saw. Other's involved may have other concerns and if no one shared the peopke who can act would be clueless. Go through either NSPCC or Social Care whichever you prefer. You could also notify nursery (as Social Care don't always share info and they see the child more regularly and can monitor if Social Care don't take action). You might not get any feedback as it's confidential but that doesn't mean nothing has been done. For the same reason we can't assume nursery don't have concerns.

Chamomileteaplease · 24/11/2018 19:12

Please report, whether to SS or NSPCC. Write down all the issues so that you don't forget when you are on the phone. The poor little thing! Just being spoken to horribly like that is abuse. Imagine it being constant. Please flag this up. Urgently.

BiscuitDrama · 24/11/2018 19:20

Google says Mongolian spots are seen in ‘dark skinned’ babies if that’s relevant.