Gotten?

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I see this a lot on here but never hear it spoken....is this a new word or a regional thing?

It's US for "got". But I imagine it's also UK regional like "mom" but I don't know where from.

It's a very old word! It would be regarded as archaic in formal English (except in certain phrases such as 'ill-gotten gains) but has survived in American English. It might be due a comeback in British English.

It's old English and is still in common usage in the US.

What Screaming and caterpuller said. American English, archaic British English.

Presumably creeping back across the Pond via the Internet.

It’s old English , travelled to the states, and has now returned via the internet.

Definitely archaic English, returning from across the pond via the internet.

My 16yo uses it, along with "a couple days" rather than "a couple of days", "filling out" rather than "filling in" forms, etc.

I hate it

I'd much prefer hearing that than the use of super for really.

That super, super annoys me.

Dreadful.

I’ve always said gotten and I’m Scottish.

Shakespeare used it.

@thepoorestoftherichteabiscuits I have never heard super for really

But yes, out of date English, returned to us via the US. Grates on me but I know technically ok.

Ax/ahks instead of ask is another example of this😇

Don’t know how the angel got in there

I use gotten, Scottish too. Not prone to Americanisms.

Don't forget that, apart from regional usage, that we have a fair number of American and Canadian MNers!

Bill Bryson's 'Mother Tongue' is a brilliant (and sometimes very funny) essay about this - and many other aspects of the history of English.

Oops - one too many 'thats'

We had it in textbooks (non-English speaking country)

Super for really or very is massively irritating.

I also dislike gotten. I don’t care if it is old English. It just grates.

@thepoorestoftherichteabiscuits I have never heard super for really

Trust me, you will do. It's the new 'like' for 'said'

Maybe it's because I watch a lot of American TV shows. Nothing is awesome any more (awesome is annoying in itself), everything is super awesome.

There was a brilliant Radio 4 programme about this just the other day! So many words that we think are Americanisms actually aren't, like gotten or trash - and so many that are, we don't think twice about. I was amazed to hear that "hangover" is an American word (and not just an archaic British one that survived over there). There were loads of others too.

Here it is: www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08qxd02

Theres always another word for got.

Completely normal word in Ireland and based on these threads same goes for Scotland. Every time this comes up I am reminded how many English people think their version is definitive and anything they don't see often is 'american' and somehow lesser.

I need to know if exam boards would treat 'gotten' as poor grammar or charmingly ahead of the return of some old English. It grates on me and always reminds me of poorly edited free kindle books.

Why does gotten get through spell check but outwith is always highlighted. Both perfectly common usage in Scotland.
English’s teachers I know make it correct if it’s used correctly.