School ban Canada goose coats

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I feel slightly on the fence.. What do you think?

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/nov/16/schools-right-ban-pupils-wearing-designer-coats

I'm willing to bet the kids that are wearing them and being dicks to the kids that aren't, are wearing fakes or their mum will be paying 56p a week for it for the next 30 years

What sort of parent spends this sort of money on a coat likely to get lost?
It is an embarrassment and it is the effect on poorer kids, or kids like me who werent allowed to have overpriced labels.
The kids with the labels were invariably very noises about it.
It also sets these kids up for a lifetime of dept unless they grow up to be very successful.

Coyotes are not skinned alive for Canada Goose coats.

Even the PETA video shows a coyote held by a restraint type trap and then killed with one shot to the head.

Whether of course fur is needed to protect your face from frostbite in the Wirral is another question.

We’re all so SPOILT, aren’t we? Live in a temperate climate but just MUST have something way over what’s actually needed, just because we want it ‘end of ‘.

Live in a suburban environment, never leave tarmac, but we just must have a mahoosive 4x4 because we like it, ‘end of’.

And so on and so on.

No wonder the biggest ‘end of’ will be the planet.

12 years to turn it around.

I think people are trying to turn this into a fur debate, which this isn't. But it still comes down the the question of should one parent be expected not to buy nice things for their child just because another can't afford to? I don't think so, and I don't think that makes me a bad person at all.

But it still comes down the the question of should one parent be expected not to buy nice things for their child just because another can't afford to? I don't think so, and I don't think that makes me a bad person at all.
It's not that at all.
Nobody is saying parents can't buy their child whatever they want. If you want to dress your child in a £1000 coat for whatever reason (status symbols), great do it.

The question is whether it is sensible and right to have a school policy allowing highly expensive items.There's a lot going on in schools to try and level inequalities. Having some kids wandering around in highly expensive coats is ridiculous and unnecessary.

School saying a high value item isn't ok for 25 hours of the week isn't infringing your right to spend obscene amounts of money on items for children.

I'd say it's also up to the parents of these expensively coated teens to ensure they are aren't acting like twats on their expensive coats.

MaisyPops but what about those who do not need it as a status symbol? Some people choose to bring their children up in designer clothes and that is what they're used to. Why should they suddenly change this for other people?

School saying a high value item isn't ok for 25 hours of the week isn't infringing your right to spend obscene amounts of money on items for children.

Quite!!!

"Why should they suddenly change this for other people?"
Because we live in a community and it's a good idea to do things to help the community run smoothly?

If school contacted me and told me that an item my dds have taken to school has made another child feel shit about themselves I would be mortified and feel very guilty. I would be having a word with myself.

What my children wear is no business of the community. I'm really struggling to find any reason thus far as to why I would change what I dress my children in, purely for the benefit of other people?

Pinkyyy do your children go to a non uniform school?

No Leather and denim jackets is a common rule in schools. It has nothing to do with academy branding (I remember having my denim jacket confiscated as a student) and everything to do with them not being proper coats and are more of a fashion thing.

If I look at my KS3/4 students, a third don't wear a coat (and then tell me they are freezing and wet in the rain because teen logic), most wear any other sensible coat & a tiny minority try to wear a hoody under their blazer because they prefer a hoody to a school jumper (they quickly lose the hoody)

Maisypops - a leather, denim or bomber is a jacket or coat and is warmer than wearing no coat- what's wrong with fashion - even the school's uniform follows a fashion - polyester! and there is most definitely a fashion for increasingly strict daft uniform rules. The kids at our school aren't allowed to wear a hoody or boots, what the hell is wrong with wearing boots? - more anti-fashion rules?
My kids go to school in correct uniform, coat etc - we follow the rules but we don't agree with them.

Nope they have a blazer and tie uniform

I've got a Canada Goose coat. So does DH. bought it first and foremost for warmth. We live in a Swiss ski resort. It was very expensive, but I expect it to last for years. Every other person has one here. Virtually nil chance of being mugged for it - crime is minuscule and it's not seen as a luxury anyway.

I wouldn't buy one for a teenager though as they wouldn't get enough wear out of it to justify the price, in my opinion.

Pinkyyy designer blazer and tie?

I think school uniforms are by and large a stupid idea, but its odd to simultaneously obay school uniform rules and claim that what your children wear to school isnt anything to do with the community.

Obviously if schools do have to have a uniform any parts which are going to be outerwear in winter should be neon yellow or neon orange with reflective stripes, including shoes (boots in winter).

"I'm really struggling to find any reason thus far as to why I would change what I dress my children in, purely for the benefit of other people?"
I think this is one of those things where if you struggle to understand you never will.

The poverty shaming aspect is interesting. We are asked for money on a frequent basis at school, the school put on loads of lovely events for the kids but I remember feeling awful as a kid asking my parents for money for something at school and getting the lecture from them about how we had no money etc - that was the pain and dread I felt as a kid - not the pressure to wear the latest trainers...it was the drip, drip drip of money requests from the school.

blueskies obviously not because they have to wear the ones with the school emblem, that's beside the point though. The point is that people don't want children going to school in designer items

I do find it quite strange that schools have become so militant in ensuring that every child is dressed exactly the same right down to the smallest items, whilst also trying to tell them that it's great to be different.

Pinkyy anyone choosing to bring their children up wearing nothing but branded designer clothing is definitely doing it for status. There's no other reason to do so.

maybe this

EvaReady you make a good point, schools have now started to go on trips abroad and a friend's child (from different school) recently came home with a letter for a ski trip with a cost of £800

After reading this thread I went in the local store and what do you know but the shop owner was wearing a CG coat. Now that I’m aware I strongly suspect I’m going to see them everywhere...

No idea who buys their kids £600 coats... I wouldn’t be sending my kids around in designer gear. And yes we could if we really wanted to. I don’t see the point. But then mine are too small to care or be aware yet. Maybe they’ll be in head to toe designer gear by the time they’re 10.