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The tale of the toxic bridesmaid

264 replies

grincheux · 19/11/2018 14:34

NC for this.

I'm tangled up in a toxic friendship. It's coming to a head, and I'm not sure how to handle it. Apologies in advance, this might go on a bit...

Friend in question is the sort of person who is 'the constant' in every shitty situation which happens to her. Her life is a mess, largely engineered by herself, she falls out with just about everyone she meets and as a result doesn't have many friends and has cut contact with her own family, and tries to disconnect her partner from his own family. She's incredibly moody and manipulative, but I've stuck by her for years and been her only friend and support, which unfortunately means I'm also on the receiving end of that bad bits. I should make it clear that we are "close" - we see each other once a week etc.

She and her partner got engaged a few years ago after their DD was born. I've had five dates in my calendar for her wedding now over the last few years, none of which have actually happened. Cue plenty of time spent wasted looking at wedding venues and suppliers which she never actually intended to book. This year, she settled for a date over a year away and sent out save the dates. She then magnanimously announced to me that she "wouldn't be angry if I got married before her". I wasn't even engaged.

Fast forward a bit. DP and I are now engaged (hooray!) and are getting married... A few months before her. Our circumstances are completely different, we want to start a family and would prefer to be married first, you get the picture. When I told her we'd got engaged, she didn't sound as excited as a lot of other friends. She made it clear that her primary concern was my availability to help her organise her wedding now. I felt like I had to ask her to be a bridesmaid because she'd kick off if I didn't (it's highly unpleasant when she does, weeks of the silent treatment, snarky texts and strops). She doesn't get on with any of the other bridesmaids (or my family... or friends... see where this is going...) and has already upset several other people in our wedding party. On Friday night she rang me to complain about the other bridesmaids and threatened not to come to the wedding. She changed her tune when I told her that was "a shame but up to her". Same again when she said she was going to cancel her own wedding because "this is all too much" (I haven't actually asked her to do or organise anything).

She's been 'off' with me this week for no apparent reason and after messages from other friends asking what her problem is - I've finally had enough. I feel like I've almost been gaslighted by this woman for years and I've finally seen what a pain in the arse she is, and now she's putting me on edge about my wedding as well. I realise this is partly my own fault for carrying on pandering to her for as long as I have but it's too much now. She's upsetting me, and now my other friends.

AIBU to want to completely cut contact with this person? I don't even want her at the wedding for fear of her either sulking in a corner or causing some sort of scene... Far less than having her as a bridesmaid. I know what I want to do, I'm just not sure how to go about it. Whatever I do or say, I'm pretty sure she's going to be vile about it. Please help MMers. Sad

OP posts:
Mk1234 · 19/11/2018 16:16

She seems like a right drain on your energy. Shes the type that thinks life revolves around her. I wouldn't trust her at uour wedding , she might kick off to make a point and spoil your day

BumbleBeee69 · 19/11/2018 16:18

Right behind you Lass Flowers

TedLife · 19/11/2018 16:23

I 'fired' a bridesmaid for my wedding. She just didn't care and was never interested in hearing about it. It was the best thing I did because I wasn't stressing about her on the day or regretting having her involved in such a special moment. You have to do what's right for you and I think we forget sometimes that we don't HAVE to be friends with anyone.

ConkerGame · 19/11/2018 16:24

Definitely get rid! I know it can be hard to do but remember - short term pain, long term gain!

Be strong OP, you can do it!

mudslings · 19/11/2018 16:25

Excellent wording from Blanche.
Good luck OP

Figgygal · 19/11/2018 16:27

She sounds like an absolute joy sponge
How will your life look without her in it?

HollowTalk · 19/11/2018 16:31

I disagree about calling her. I would want my words in black and white so that she couldn't twist them. And it never works calling a person like that and telling them what you think of them - it's not a call anyone would want to make or receive and it's likely the OP would cave in and end up apologising.

Miscible · 19/11/2018 16:39

I don't understand why people think a phone call can't be selectively quoted and is better. Surely the whole point is that, unless OP records the call and broadcasts it, a call can not only be selectively quoted but also heavily misquoted? Much better to do it in writing, then if ex friend misquotes it's easy enough to demonstrate to anyone who matters what was actually said.

YoThePussy · 19/11/2018 16:44

She sounds awful, show her the door, slam it behind her and don’t look back.

I had a friend of 25 years standing. Worked with her when we first met, she was considered odd by many of the staff so felt sorry for her and was friendly. She left and we kept in touch over the years. Many sagas of jobs she had that had not worked out. Someone looked at her funny, someone answered the phone for her when she was off and took a message for her, many more petty annoyances that would cause her to walk out of the job. She would seethe about their rudeness and be delighted when they wrote and apologised, quite often send me the letters to read as well. In a moments madness I agreed to have a few days holiday together and duly went off. Within 24 hours she had a spectacular tantrum for no reason and flounced home leaving me to explain to the owner of the B&B. I have never heard from her again. She is no doubt still waiting for an apology from me for something I never did. Initially I felt sad about the loss of a friendship as I don’t like falling out with people. Soon I thought bollocks and have not looked back.

CrazyGirly · 19/11/2018 16:58

Definitely dump this girl. You obviously don't mean to her what a friend should and to be honest you don't need that kind of negativity in your life. Keep us informed on this situation and good luck Smile

Sugarpiehoneyeye · 19/11/2018 17:00

@grincheux, free yourself, dump this life sucking parasite, she'll never change.
Another strong hand hold here.🌸

BewareOfDragons · 19/11/2018 17:06

I'd use the suggested text/email wording as well. Just do it. Life is too short.

grincheux · 19/11/2018 17:07

Thank you everyone. Just taking a moment to reassure myself it's not me before I send this:

"Hey. This is hard but I've got to the point where I need to tell you how I feel. I've really struggled with your recent behaviour towards me. I've let it go for a long time, which I shouldn't have, but I can't handle you any more. You've been moody with me, and pretty unpleasant to and about other people, and I've felt like I'm constantly treading on eggshells with you for the last couple of years. This is meant to be the happiest most exciting time of our lives planning our weddings but I'm spending all my time worrying about you and your reactions to things, and you've emotionally manipulated me by threatening not to come. I have decided it would be best if you didn't come to any of it. I know this will be very hurtful, and I'm sorry for that, but I need to prioritise my own wellbeing. My wedding obviously isn't making you happy, and the way you are being doesn't make me happy, so I think it's best we call it a day. Wishing you lots of luck and happiness for October, and I hope that you, DP and DD have a wonderful day."

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elfycat · 19/11/2018 17:10

I had a friend of many years who I had to go NC, very awkward as our children are at the same school. She made my life hell and even DH said I'd never put up with him behaving like that - I'd leave. At one point she'd made me feel so guilty for something she told me I'd done to offend her (gaslighting) that I had to get another friend, not from our town, to read through the extensive FB chat and tell me what I'd done that was so offensive. She was horrified by it all.

But still I continued to be her friend; she seemed to have so many people being awful to her. It went on until the day I found out that she was bitching about me not doing enough for her. This was just after she and her unruly (add lots of demonic spawn type descriptions for undisciplined) DC had ruined a Christmas and left an absolute wake of destruction that is beyond describing. The cost was in the hundreds with a wrecked sofa, lost and torn gifts my DDs had opened that day, and all of my CD collection scratched. There was so much more. They were only out of my sight for 20 minutes while I cleared up after Xmas dinner, but my DD1 came and said 'I can't stop them.'

And she bitched about my hospitality after she'd not had to lift a finger all day. It makes sense really; she bitched about everyone, why did I think I was any different when she talked to anyone else. Insanely jealous of her friends having other friends she tried to isolate a few school-mum friends from each other, possibly to keep herself the centre of attention.

On that day I walked away. I simply stopped talking to her; there's no point arguing with crazy and anything I could have said would have been twisted in her stories - even me being nice to her was twisted! If I were you I'd send that message, to clear up the admin on the bridesmaid and invitations thing. Anti-invite her to yours, decline hers and then block, block, block. Do not engage again.

cheesefield · 19/11/2018 17:10

That's a great email. Kind but firm and clear.

wombatsears · 19/11/2018 17:13

Sounds great OP. However, you can't reason with batshit so be prepared for more guilt tripping etc. I would block after you've sent it.

villainousbroodmare · 19/11/2018 17:14

Perfect. Well done. Send.

Aeroflotgirl · 19/11/2018 17:16

Good on you, that is a great message, now delete her and block. You will probably get a tirade of abuse, but be prepared for that, she has a form for this. She is not a friend, friends do not do this.

ScrumpyBetty · 19/11/2018 17:17

Good luck OP. She will start an argument with you and will want the final word, be warned. My advice to you is after you have sent the message BLOCK her and DO NOT engage further or it will never end.

MooFeatures · 19/11/2018 17:18

Spot on. Send!

ohfourfoxache · 19/11/2018 17:22

Rip the plaster off - hit send.

Unfortunately you just have to get through it, but when you do you’ll be free

Bluetrews25 · 19/11/2018 17:25

Not necessarily clear in your email that you do not want to see her at all any more, I felt it was more about not being at the wedding, so she might expect to pick up again afterwards.
'I don't feel I can help you with your wedding planning any more, and you are clearly not happy being around me and my family and friends, so I think it best that we call time on this friendship now. Wishing you well for your future, I will no longer be a part of it.'
Be aware she will not be happy that her unpaid wedding planner will have quit.... Grin
Good luck!

primoestate · 19/11/2018 17:26

That's perfect, OP. She will respond so either ignore or block her from all communication.
You'll feel so relieved. I did with a toxic friend, with a similar message to you. Felt so much better and have never missed her.

Aeroflotgirl · 19/11/2018 17:27

What you haven't sent it!!! Just send it and be done with it.

DayManChampionOfTheSun · 19/11/2018 17:30

Anyone else looking forward to the aibu? My friend just sent me this message! That is bound to come up later?

Op, send and block. She brings nothing positive to your life and you are fully entitled to enjoy your wedding and all the prep leading up to it!