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To expect her to accept Christmas with others?

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user1471592953 · 19/11/2018 14:03

Another Christmas one - sorry. In short, is it unreasonable for my mother not to be invited to spend Christmas with my family and MIL this year, and am I responsible for her feelings/should I feel guilty about this?

DH and I have been married six years. We have two very young DC and live in the U.K. DH is from another European country. His mother and sibling live there. MIL is on her own because FIL died recently.

I am an only child of divorced parents. My DM is in her mid seventies, still drives, in good health, etc., etc. DM has a sibling.

The backstory is that I find my DM very critical and not hugely supportive. She seems increasingly self centred.

DH, DS1 and DS2 and I have spent the last two Christmases in the UK with my DM (the first year at her house with ILs; the second at our house because I was heavily pregnant - ILs not present and fine with that).

We have arranged to stay with MIL this Christmas. It was booked in the summer when we found out DH’s DF was very ill. His DF has now died.

We told my DM that we had arranged to spend Christmas away this year. It got a lukewarm reception: no ‘how lovely, have a good time’ reply, but she seemed to take it on board although I sensed her wondering what she was going to do.

Two weeks later, after my FIL died, she emailed suggesting that MIL, sibIL and my family all come to her (again) for Christmas instead. This was on the basis she thought MIL may not want Christmas in her own country this year. DH and I discussed and decided not to tell DMIL about the invitation because she had just lost FIL and we didn’t want her to feel pressure to come because my DM would otherwise be alone, given she wanted to stay in her home country. We reminded DM we had booked to go, had spent the last two years in the U.K. and said we wouldn’t be here this year.

Not wanting DM to be alone for Christmas, I told DM’s sibling we would be away this year. Sibling has now - as is usual - invited DM for Christmas. DH reported this to DMIL.

I spoke to DM last week who said she has been invited to her sibling’s for Christmas and wasn’t it kind of them because otherwise she didn’t know what she would have done.

AIBU to feel slightly irritated about her invitation to MIL, etc., when she knew what had been arranged and the subsequent ‘don’t know what I would have done’ comment, which I think was intended to make me feel guilty? I am not in a position to ask her to MIL’s for Christmas. Earlier in the year I know that MIL had planned to ask her but then FIL died and she didn’t want to host anyone other than immediate family. Surely that is okay? I didn’t appreciate my DM’s implication that I was responsible. FWIW, DH agrees with the conclusions I drew about DM’s attitude. In addition, do I need to feel responsible every year for her happiness? She can’t always expect to be involved, can she, given DH and his family aren’t from the U.K?

Interested to hear views. Thanks.

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pigsDOfly · 20/11/2018 13:08

DonkeyHotei Thank you, I hope you have a good Christmas too.

OrdinarySnowflake I'm not saying that the OP and her DH shouldn't go and spend Christmas with his family. But I do think she's being unfair to her DM to expect her to not feel a bit unsure about her own position over Christmas and be worried about being on her own.

The OP seems to be feeling guilty, there is no reason why she should, but she's taking those guilty feeling and accusing her DM of being the one who is making her feel guilty. As far as I can see her DM has said nothing at all to indicate she feels the OP should feel guilty, other than express her thanks that she won't be on her own because her she will be at her own sister's house.

Obviously, for the OP nothing short of an expression of utter delight from her DM that they would be going away for Christmas would have been enough.

BottleOfJameson · 20/11/2018 13:40

With these kind of family dynamics it's impossible to say because we don't know the people well and can't tell what their intentions are.

On the face of it your DM has done nothing wrong. No-one is entirely selfless so even though it's totally fair for you to go away for christmas this year it's natural she might feel upset about it and for her to wish she could spend xmas with you since it seems that's the usual tradition.

It's possible that she is just being selfish and manipulative and trying to use guilt to exercise power over you but none of that is obvious from what you've said. She has no partner and only one sibling so it's natural for her to feel insecure about her family, especially around special times like christmas.

user1471592953 · 20/11/2018 13:55

I’m unsure why PigsDOFly is suggesting I’m after an expression of ‘utter delight’ from my DM. Nothing I’ve said suggests I am.

Thanks everyone else for your comments - I’ve read them all.

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blahblahblah18 · 20/11/2018 13:58

I just think there has been an undercurrent of trying to make me feel guilty, which I don’t really like

Often when people are convinced others are trying to make them feel guilty, its really just that they actually feel guilty and don't like it, so blame the other person.

pigsDOfly · 20/11/2018 14:02

user14715953 You said in your OP that you felt her response was lukewarm and you wanted her to react with 'how lovely'.

Okay so maybe 'utter delight' is a bit ott, but I don't understand why a lukewarm response from her is such a problem. She was probably feeling a bit lukewarm about not having a family Christmas. No doubt she'll get over it.

wafflyversatile · 20/11/2018 14:16

Thing is your DM wanted what she wanted, you wanted what you wanted. You won. She's a bit put out. She's let out a couple of comments that show this. You don't appreciate the comments, fair enough. You've had a little moan. You're going to your MILs. She's going to her siblings. Leave it be. Sometimes we all feel a bit put out. Sometimes we all need a little moan about people. The world moves on. No need for escalation.

We've all got these little narky exchanges that irk us. As we're humans we always will.

user1471592953 · 20/11/2018 15:19

Okay, PigsDOFly, thanks. The thing is that I have to spend Christmas away from DM some years. She probably won’t get an invitation every time we go abroad (and it isn’t for me to issue it anyway). It would be nice if she wished us a nice Christmas because there isn’t much I can do. MIL is always gracious even in the years she doesn’t see us and the GC.

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