Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Omg we just got Alexa

441 replies

reddressinggown · 17/11/2018 21:14

Tell me what fun things she does

This is freaky!

OP posts:
Shriek · 22/11/2018 19:17

Bugger off and good day to you

Whitecottonsheets · 22/11/2018 19:19

Who are you telling to bugger off?
Shriek- the article supports what you are saying!

Shriek · 22/11/2018 19:19

Ah, no, it's a murder case...but I did have a quick scan, sorry have a DC travelling ATM who's got lost, so been absent, will look again now

Shriek · 22/11/2018 19:20

Grin White cotton sheets certainly not you...its a user name ^

Shriek · 22/11/2018 19:36

This is about two murdered women...I have had a brief look and come up with the following:

two women murdered

Shriek · 22/11/2018 19:40

this one

Shriek · 22/11/2018 19:42

It was a debate I was listening to, but the BBC article ^ gives a bit more info than the previous, but only hints at the extent of the debate I heard.
Pairings of devices, ambient listening, sending unprompted recordings to cloud, and so o ...there have been cases of this

Bluntness100 · 22/11/2018 19:45

I think it's becoming fairly clear shriek is just having a laugh,

Whitecottonsheets · 22/11/2018 19:49

It bluntness the independent article I linked too pretty much supports what she is saying! How is that a laugh?

Shriek · 22/11/2018 19:50

How the hell is this even funny bluntness how bloody inappropriate frankly.

Shriek · 22/11/2018 19:53

What is exactly becoming clear to you then?

You swallow hook line and sinker Amazon speak, and regurgitate it in your defence. Do you know something about vested interest? And previous for it....?

Naïve at best.

Whitecottonsheets · 22/11/2018 21:05

And another snippet from an article to support your points shriek:

With Alexa Hunches, Alexa will typically take a few weeks to learn its owners’ habits using their smart home devices. Using AI technology in the cloud, Alexa builds up a picture of its owners’ routines, paying attention to the time of day, weather patterns and even the changing of the seasons.

Alexa Hunches will be personalised to individuals, says Reid, although it will start by looking at key times of day, such as sunrise and sunset, when people often interact with their smart home devices. Although the Hunches technology will only work with connected home gadgets for now, Reid said that Amazon would build on the technology as time goes on. That could mean Alexa suggesting your favourite music or radio shows without being asked, and ultimately (and profitably) recommending regularly purchased items for your shopping list.

Limp made no mention of privacy during the Alexa launch.

Whitecottonsheets · 22/11/2018 23:35

Actually when you look at the definition of surveillance, according to MI5, it means:

Directed surveillance operations involve the covert monitoring of targets' movements, conversations and other activities.

Intrusive surveillance involves the covert monitoring of targets, using an eavesdropping device for example, on residential premises or within a private vehicle.

But the government considers this type of surveillance so invasive that MI5 have to get permission from the Secretary of State to carry it out on an individual.

And yet people willingly allow (and pay for) devices in their homes that pretty much does the same type of surveillance!

Shriek · 23/11/2018 00:18

Absolutely, whitecottonsheets , this s now being launched as a 'burglar watch' to make it sound comfort in and not at all stealth surveillance, no, not at all.

Shriek · 23/11/2018 01:02

Amazon employee seems to have gone now! Grin

primoestate · 23/11/2018 02:53

I like in the middle east. Will it still work there the same as it would in the UK? Say I wanted to listen to uk radio 4...would it just play radio 4? Thanks

mathanxiety · 23/11/2018 07:51

www.nytimes.com/2018/03/31/business/media/amazon-google-privacy-digital-assistants.html

Where there's smoke there's fire.

The Electronic Privacy Information Center has recommended more robust disclosure rules for internet-connected devices, including an “algorithmic transparency requirement” that would help people understand how their data was being used and what automated decisions were then being made about them.

Sam Lester, the center’s consumer privacy fellow, said he believed that the abilities of new smart home devices highlighted the need for United States regulators to get more involved with how consumer data was collected and used.

“A lot of these technological innovations can be very good for consumers,” he said. “But it’s not the responsibility of consumers to protect themselves from these products any more than it’s their responsibility to protect themselves from the safety risks in food and drugs. It’s why we established a Food and Drug Administration years ago.”

Bluntness100 · 23/11/2018 08:29

If you mean me as the amazon employee I can assure you I'm not, however it seems you really believe that the government or amazon will start to monitor you in your own home, and honestly that's a bit a lot crazy for me, so will leave you to your discussion, as everything that could be said, has been said,

Whitecottonsheets · 23/11/2018 08:58

But @bluntness100 you keep ignoring the evidence! You just keep saying it’s crazy! Jolly old amazon would never monitor its customers!

Amazon itself says:
With Alexa Hunches, Alexa will typically take a few weeks to learn its owners’ habits using their smart home devices. Using AI technology in the cloud, Alexa builds up a picture of its owners’ routines, paying attention to the time of day, weather patterns and even the changing of the seasons.

If that’s not monitoring I’m not sure what is!

A common saying on the relationship thread is ‘If a man is telling you who he really is, you should listen’ - well the tech companies are telling us who they are and we should listen!

PoisonousSmurf · 23/11/2018 09:01

Alexa and those google things freak me out. I regularly clean in homes that have them. Feel like I'm being spied on. Can't even sing when I'm cleaning!
So I bring my own radio and have it on full blast to stop it listening!

Shriek · 23/11/2018 09:03

As expected, @Bluntness name-calling, and shutting down ppl that don't agree with you.

Calling ppl crazy is truly shit

SilentIsla · 23/11/2018 14:17

She seems to have an astonishingly apt username. It’s as if she is actually proud of being rude. Clearly, she has never acquired manners.

SilentIsla · 23/11/2018 14:17

Oh she works for Amazon. Figures.

strawberrisc · 24/11/2018 07:52

Jesus. People need to settle down and get some real problems.

Yesindeed123 · 24/11/2018 09:07

@strawberrisc
The erosion of civil liberties (by the state or multi nationals) is a real problem.

Please create an account

To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.

This thread is closed and is no longer accepting replies. Click here to start a new thread.