Children in Pubs

[MaryJenson]

On a Friday evening, hordes of them in the bar.

Drives me mental!

I've seen some pretty out of control 'grown ups' in pubs too.

X-post and much more succinctly put masterandmargarita

"I've seen some pretty out of control 'grown ups' in pubs too."

I haven't. If an adult misbehaves they're thrown out in my experience and pubs tend to be very strict on that kind of thing.

"You presumably aren't trying to argue that it's impossible for a child to behave in a pub any better than the way you mention, as that would be batshit."

I think most children don't really want to just sit quietly and have nothing to do. They're not drinking alcohol so pubs aren't very interesting to them. I find it hard to blame the children from last night for being badly behaved and I think it makes more sense to point out that they just weren't in the right place for them.

Loud boorish drunken behaviour is not always worthy of being chucked out, just really annoying.

Pubs tend to be tough on badly behaved adults otherwise they can lose their licence.

master Are you simply referring to adults talking and laughing?

We often go to a local pub for a meal on Fridays with dad, she loves going to the pub! But only places serving food and early. And she has never run around the place. I never even knew that pubs needed a special license to allow children in, until we took 3 yr dd and grandma out for Sunday lunch to a renowned food pub. Only to be told we would have to eat in the garden as Dd wasn’t allowed in. So sandwiches in cafe instead of roast dinner!

WenderWoofer

Ahahahaha !
Considering this was when they were toddlers and they have just started secondary school , then no !
And unless you are a grumpy old ma. , then double no !
The were toddlers in high chairs being toddlers !!! Babbling and playing , do you have a problem with that ? Should we just lock al kids up because of those who choose not to have kids ? 🙄

Abacucat - there are plenty of nice cocktail bars and adult only places to go , hotels , also most bars have over 18 only sections ,
Kids are just as entitled to be in pubs as you are .
If you don’t like that , don’t go !

Abaucat - they were behaving - like toddlers !!!
Choose elsewhere to eat then , instead of a family orientated place that caters well for children including a separate child’s menu 🙄

Ahahahaha !
Considering this was when they were toddlers and they have just started secondary school , then no !
And unless you are a grumpy old ma. , then double no !
The were toddlers in high chairs being toddlers !!! Babbling and playing , do you have a problem with that ? Should we just lock al kids up because of those who choose not to have kids

I have kids. Not once did I inflict their bad behaviour on others. Kids are kids. Some parents discipline them. Others prefer to make sure their kids are seen and heard. I wonder which parenting style you prefer....

When I place my kids into daycare so I can work to support them, believe me I dont want to have to put up with other peoples noisy, disruptive, out of control kids whilst on my hours lunch break. You can't control your kids? Be like other parents and don't take them where they are not welcome. Furthermore if you cant control them dont expect a waitress to....

twins Nope, nearly everywhere allows kids here. Including hotel bars and places that sell cocktails.
I made my comment because I was amazed that people had complained in Weatherspoons. They tend to have lots of kids in them, so I wondered if your kids were more badly behaved than you think.

Interesting responses thank you

There are no cocktail bars here and tbh, I just want a quiet pint in my local. Some posters mention adults being badly behaved, loud and drunk etc
Why would you want to expose a young child to this?

I have the misfortune of living next to a pub and by far the most annoying thing is the Sunday afternoon screaming, shouting, running round the beer garden which is so close to my living room I have to wear ear defenders.

Friday nights it goes on till almost midnight, so we can't go to bed till they've all buggered off.

It's a bloody nightmare, when we bought the house the beer garden was just a private garden.

I've never taken my children into a pub at home, but I have done on holidays. Because we were on holidays and had been walking around all day and fancied some relaxed pub food rather than taking the children into a more formal restaurant, and obviously we didn't have the option of leaving them with someone else. We always asked at the bar if they were allowed before bringing them in, and if they were, we sat quietly in the corner and they drank a coke and did some puzzles or played on a phone (with the sound muted!). Some pubs said no, no children, and that was fine too.

The bottom line for me is that if the business have made a decision to allow children then you have to expect that they might be there.

Mary - the bad behaviour of adults is usually not within the hours that kids are in a pub. I'm just pointing out that I find drunk loud boorish (usually) men, far more annoying than a couple of kids running around.

That’s fair enough masterandmargarita

Personally, I prefer a loud, drunk adult to kids running around. It’s a pub.
In a soft play, I prefer kids running around and would not expect to see a loud drunk.

The more the better adults are miserable these days

I would like to reiterate, these children are not eating. Their parents are drinking and quite loud and drunk themselves.

I have older children and just wondering when standing at the bar with a glass of wine in one hand and a baby on your hip became a thing.

Hardly ever see children in our local pubs. It's not a shit area though so that's probably why. Its a bit of a chavvy thing to do to be honest.

I think most children don't really want to just sit quietly and have nothing to do. They're not drinking alcohol so pubs aren't very interesting to them. I find it hard to blame the children from last night for being badly behaved and I think it makes more sense to point out that they just weren't in the right place for them.

Which is fine but again, does not pertain to the post of mine you quoted.

I would like to reiterate, these children are not eating. Their parents are drinking and quite loud and drunk themselves.

I have older children and just wondering when standing at the bar with a glass of wine in one hand and a baby on your hip became a thing.

I think the baby is less of an issue than the older children who will be bored silly and probably noisier.

If the parents are “drunk and loud” though, while their children just have to sit there, that’s a bit grim.

I do think it’s our pub / drinking culture that’s to blame. Some people think it’s fine to prioritise drinking over everything. That goes for the “I hate children because they might ruin my pint” brigade and the “I’m entitled to my pint and I don’t have childcare, so I’m carting little Lewis and Olivia down the pub for a piss up” brigade, equally.

It does make me sad to read about people’s experiences in countries like Greece. Why are we not like that? It’s a shame.

I think there is a fine line between taking kids to a family restaurant/pub than a drinkers pub. We would take children to the first for a meal but wouldn't dream of taking them to a pub for a drink with us, yes you need a life but there a plenty of other things to do with them. I don't feel it's the right message at all.

Witha Because we have a whole different culture to Greece - some ways good, some bad.