to ask for a dumbed down version of whats happening - BREXIT

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So I understand that the UK majority voted to leave, that negotiations are taking place regarding the departure of the UK from the EU.

What I don't understand is what have we agreed on, what is in dispute and whats holding us up?

I can see trade is a big thing here and also the Irish/NIrish borders.

Can someone point me to an idiots guide?

Raab has resigned.

It’s over.

May will be toast within a few days.

My parents voted leave because ‘we should be able to control our own borders’ and ‘we’ll we pay so much money to Europe to just tell us what to do - did you hear about bendy bananas and sausages?’

Tried saying what about health/education/business/economy/etc but they voted leave based on the above. I think they’re probably not unique - most people voted with one or two issues in mind without looking at the bigger picture.

@Oldbutstillgotit - yep , sent it to my dh.
Fuck it

Soft Brexit is following the EU rules without a say - not much sovereignty there

Absolutely not true. Britain does not follow EU rules without say even today. The UK holds a record of more than 1,200 optouts from various rules and regulations. More than any other country in the EU.

Uh oh. Esther Mcvey gone now. They are dropping like flys

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But the reason we are in this mess is because some mumsnetters are honest enough to say they don't really understand all the politics involved. At least some of us are trying to educate ourselves..

I don't live in the UK any more but would have voted remain. It still amazes me that the public were asked to vote on something with such little information.

There's a theory doing the rounds that a cabinet minister will resign every hour throughout today, when enough of them have gone a leadership contest will be triggered. Then it's anyone's guess which way we'll be screwed and who'll do it. I feel another referendum coming on.

It’s mostly a massive shitshow, but that lizard McVile has flounced off in tears, so that should be enough reason to get the bubbles on ice anyway.

It still amazes me that the public were asked to vote on something with such little information. YYYYY! Precisely why I didn't vote. I didn't feel I had enough information to make an informed decision and rather than vote with mediocre information, I didn't vote at all.

Bluelady Will watch and wait with your theory in mind

My sense of this is that the reaction to this referendum outcome has a whiff of ‘that wasn’t the right answer children -have another go’.
ALL efforts since have been made not to follow through.

I think the person put in charge of this should have have been a Brexit supporter from the off. May was and continues to be a Remainer.

From the beginning provision should have been made for a no deal and all infrastructure adapted accordingly. We would then have been in a stronger negotiating position.

However, I think this ‘chaos’ has been the plan all along -people’s revolts don’t tend to get far in this country.

If you value democracy (the central reason a lot of people voted BRExit) you can’t support this deal.

I am glad some ministers are showing integrity and stepping down.

As much as I dont like TM , whatever deal she brought to the table would have had the same reaction I think.

What I dont understand is the Brexit Minister has quit because he isnt happy with the proposed deal , but surely as Brexit Minister he had a big part in negotiations.
Am I missing something?

His line is that he didn't have as much to do with the final details. He never went near it. And who knew Dover was so important?
What a knob.

I don't completely get why no deal will mean economic meltdown?
our economy would be tanked by just operating on WTO rules
Why though?.if we are a large market, and other countries want to import to us, why would that be made so hard? Also, what happens currently with import/exports between non EU countries?
I wouldn't ask this on a Brexit thread because everyone else seems to understand why and I really don't!

Also, can people not be dicks about my, or anyone else's, lack of understanding? It's feckin complicated for most people ( and I don't vote leave).

No deal means economic meltdown because every deal we currently have is made as a member of the EU. Our legal deals as member of the EU cease to be valid when we leave. If we leave with no deal that cessation is abrupt.
We will also break the Goid Friday Agreement if we leave with No deal.
Yes, we can slowly rebuild relationships and trade agreements. But we do so as a country with a track record for unilaterally smashing up deals.
On a practical level, our ports and borders get snarled up if there is no legal basis for goods to come and go.

I have just seen this on facebook and it made me laugh. I just had visions of this in TM office last night 😂

"Having had a lovely chat with the author this morning I’m delighted to finally have the source for this masterpiece. Gary Bainbridge - well done! The first time Brexit has made sense to... well probably everyone.

Brexit explained.

LEAVER: I want an omelette.

REMAINER: Right. It’s just we haven’t got any eggs.

LEAVER: Yes, we have. There they are. [HE POINTS AT A CAKE]

REMAINER: They’re in the cake.

LEAVER: Yes, get them out of the cake, please.

REMAINER: But we voted in 1974 to put them into a cake.

LEAVER: Yes, but that cake has got icing on it. Nobody said there was going to be icing on it.

REMAINER: Icing is good.

LEAVER: And there are raisins in it. I don’t like raisins. Nobody mentioned raisins. I demand another vote.

DAVID CAMERON ENTERS.

DAVID CAMERON: OK.

DAVID CAMERON SCARPERS.

LEAVER: Right, where’s my omelette?

REMAINER: I told you, the eggs are in the cake.

LEAVER: Well, get them out.

EU: It’s our cake.

JEREMY CORBYN: Yes, get them out now.

REMAINER: I have absolutely no idea how to get them out. Don’t you know how to get them out?

LEAVER: Yes! You just get them out and then you make an omelette.

REMAINER: But how?! Didn’t you give this any thought?

LEAVER: Saboteur! You’re talking eggs down. We could make omelettes before the eggs went into the cake, so there’s no reason why we can’t make them now.

THERESA MAY: It’s OK, I can do it.

REMAINER: How?

THERESA MAY: There was a vote to remove the eggs from the cake, and so the eggs will be removed from the cake.

REMAINER: Yeah, but…

LEAVER: Hang on, if we take the eggs out of the cake, does that mean we don’t have any cake? I didn’t say I didn’t want the cake, just the bits I don’t like.

EU: It’s our cake.

REMAINER: But you can’t take the eggs out of the cake and then still have a cake.

LEAVER: You can. I saw the latest Bake Off and you can definitely make cakes without eggs in them. It’s just that they’re horrible.

REMAINER: Fine. Take the eggs out. See what happens.

LEAVER: It’s not my responsibility to take the eggs out. Get on with it.

REMAINER: Why should I have to come up with some long-winded incredibly difficult chemical process to extract eggs that have bonded at the molecular level to the cake, while somehow still having the cake?

LEAVER: You lost, get over it.

THERESA MAY: By the way, I’ve started the clock on this.

REMAINER: So I assume you have a plan?

THERESA MAY: Actually, back in a bit. Just having another election.

REMAINER: Jeremy, are you going to sort this out?

JEREMY CORBYN: Yes. No. Maybe.

EU: It’s our cake.

LEAVER: Where’s my omelette? I voted for an omelette.

REMAINER: This is ridiculous. This is never going to work. We should have another vote, or at least stop what we’re doing until we know how to get the eggs out of the cake while keeping the bits of the cake that we all like.

LEAVER/MAY/CORBYN: WE HAD A VOTE. STOP SABOTAGING THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE. EGGSIT MEANS EGGSIT.

REMAINER: Fine, I’m moving to France. The cakes are nicer there.

LEAVER: You can’t. We’ve taken your freedom of movement."

moreofaslummythanyummy thank you. Very good!

I think you're saying what a lot of people are saying....

As you'll know many mps are lawyers.... The ability to state articulately opinion as fact... .

bottom line... No one knows!

This is well worth some time... #3blokesinapub

PS a slightly shorter version... Jason Hunter who's worked on the inside... What brexit will mean

The dumbed down version is that Theresa May is trying to do the impossible - keep benefits of being in EU without being in EU. This means what she has finally managed to agree with the EU haS not really made anyone in government happy. No Tory MPs are resigning and shit is hitting the fan.
Tune into news tonight for update on how many MPs have resigned or declared they will tie against.
Then, going by everything else that has happened under this government, they will somehow get it through, in spite of no one being happy with it.

Sorry meant to say noW Tory MPs are resigning

Ugh vote against
Don’t know what’s going on with my autocorrect sorry